dwai Posted April 21, 2019 This video is excellent as it gives a very pragmatic approach to taking Advaita Vedanta knowledge into our daily lives. Interestingly, it clarifies a lot of misconceptions about AV (often demonstrated on daobums as well ). If you want to *really* hear about AV from a genuine master’s mouth, please watch this (and other videos too) video lecture by Swami Sarvapriyananda. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) so going by the opening crux of the talk there really is no leading away from an "unreal" to the "real", thus what is needed is a leading away from an incorrect perception of (only) the real or Brahman in everything - which does not include an unreal, thus part of the ancient opening prayer states or espouses to me a direct contradiction to what then follows in the talk. Edited April 22, 2019 by 3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted April 22, 2019 does anyone hear that differently than the point made in the last post about said contradiction? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted April 22, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, 3bob said: so going by the opening crux of the talk there really is no leading away from an "unreal" to the "real", thus what is needed is a leading away from an incorrect perception of (only) the real or Brahman in everything - which does not include an unreal, thus part of the ancient opening prayer states or espouses to me a direct contradiction to what then follows in the talk. There is a pedagogy that is needed, because the senses and mind are so beholden with the “world”. The “unreal” is only the names and forms (Nāma, rūpa). These are called the “jagadrūpam”. The world has three other aspects - “asti, bhātī, priyam (existent, shining/illumined and loved). These correspond to sat (Pure Being/Existence), chit (Pure Awareness which illuminates), ānanda (Pure Bliss/Joy/Love) and constitute “brahmarūpam”. So to go from “unreal”(aka changing) to “real” (unchanging), is possible in every moment. There really is no contradiction. Edited April 22, 2019 by dwai 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted April 22, 2019 yet I'd say the Isa upanishad warns against transcendental dichotomies...so again coming back to the title of the talk of, "Seeing God (or Brahman) in everything" - how could one also hold to seeing a so called "unreal" even if defined as changing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted April 22, 2019 1 hour ago, 3bob said: how could one also hold to seeing a so called "unreal" even if defined as changing... That is the function of Māyā. It results in avidyā (ignorance of our true nature), which results in ever-changing names and forms appearing and disappearing. As soon as the jñāna (knowledge of our true nature) is revealed, it is no longer known to be "real". 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3bob Posted April 22, 2019 but "Seeing Brahman in everything" and connected to maya is not unreal per-se either, what is unreal is limited or mis-identification. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites