Pornography, Energy Loss, Social Discourse

[rideforever]

Question.

Does the rabid availability of pornography on the internet, does it lead to large numbers of humans leaking or pouring their sexual energy into the void, energy which otherwise would be used in the maintenance and activity of society ?

Does the energy loss manifest in the reduction in intelligence, as if the kidneys no longer have the ability to pump the energy upwards into the brain.
Does it lead to an infantile and ridiculous level of "social discourse" (what is said by officials in the media).

Is the "social discourse" held at a incredibly unintelligent level.

 

 

Edited April 28, 2019 by rideforever

[rideforever]

 

[Kar3n]

27 minutes ago, rideforever said:

Question.

Does the rabid availability of pornography on the internet, does it lead to large numbers of humans leaking or pouring their sexual energy into the void, energy which otherwise would be used in the maintenance and activity of society ?

Does the energy loss manifest in the reduction in intelligence, as if the kidneys no longer have the ability to pump the energy upwards into the brain.
Does it lead to an infantile and ridiculous level of "social discourse" (what is said by officials in the media).

Is the "social discourse" held at a incredibly unintelligent level.

 

 

Why is what other people are doing sexually any of anyone's business but theirs and their partner(s)?

 

Interesting concept, the loss of energy leading to ignorance or lack of intelligence and social discourse. I'd say the only lack of intelligence and social discourse would be on the part of the person who takes issue with others being sexually active.

[rideforever]

Another consequence of excess excitation either sexually or through excess food or excess emotions or excess thinking, is numbness.
Nothing registers anymore except high octane stimulation, the neurones and brain become reformed to be insensitive.
And following on from that the ability to discriminate between healthy and unhealthy behaviours.
And following on from that, poor choices are made for the long-term future of society.

I believe this may be the underlying energetic pattern for the fall of societies historically.

 

As instruments of God we have a certain amount of sexual energy that we may use to create, either families, or as artists developing skill and other endeavours.   Which are all extremely rewarding and make us feel good and give meaning to life.   

As we create so we feel great.
But if we instead pour our creative energy into the void, the result is unhappiness and a sense of meaninglessness.

 

Edited April 28, 2019 by rideforever

[ralis]

28 minutes ago, rideforever said:

Another consequence of excess excitation either sexually or through excess food or excess emotions or excess thinking, is numbness.
Nothing registers anymore except high octane stimulation, the neurones and brain become reformed to be insensitive.
And following on from that the ability to discriminate between healthy and unhealthy behaviours.
And following on from that, poor choices are made for the long-term future of society.

I believe this may be the underlying energetic pattern for the fall of societies historically.

 

As instruments of God we have a certain amount of sexual energy that we may use to create, either families, or as artists developing skill and other endeavours.   Which are all extremely rewarding and make us feel good and give meaning to life.   

As we create so we feel great.
But if we instead pour our creative energy into the void, the result is unhappiness and a sense of meaninglessness.

 

 

Speak for yourself without blanket condemnation of others. Been watching too much of the 700 Club or even Franklin Graham recently?

[ilumairen]

45 minutes ago, rideforever said:

Another consequence of excess excitation either sexually or through excess food or excess emotions or excess thinking, is numbness.
Nothing registers anymore except high octane stimulation, the neurones and brain become reformed to be insensitive.

 

I knew a man who discussed experiencing this (over excitation leading to numbness) through watching too much porn in his opinion. Soo he stopped, and eventually things leveled out for him. 

 

:shrug:

 

My personal views on this align more with Kar3n and ralis..

 

Who is touching whose whatsit's to what ends is simply none of my business, and I don't much care. 

[Armando]

Any kind of exaggerated (addictive) behaviour can be damaging to someone's energy system. And yet on the higher levels of Tantric Buddhism, we sometimes teach to indulge in the 'poison' and to use this as an opportunity for gaining insight and awareness.

[liminal_luke]

People often overgeneralize their own experience to humanity at large: milk gives me indigestion therefore nobody should drink the stuff.  My personal experience with porn is that it´s not good for me, so I (mostly) avoid it.  While I´m not the only one who finds porn problematic, it´s a big world out there and other people´s mileage can and does vary.

[Aetherous]

47 minutes ago, Armando said:

And yet on the higher levels of Tantric Buddhism, we sometimes teach to indulge in the 'poison' and to use this as an opportunity for gaining insight and awareness.

 

Is that truly a Tibetan Buddhist method? What Rinpoche taught you that?

Not saying it isn't...but definitely questioning.

[futuredaze]

After reading the effects of porn on the brain, I decided to give it up.  Not that I haven't had some relapses, but it is not a thing I do on a frequent basis anymore.  Just search "pornography and the brain" and you will find out more.  It is very hard to quit.  I've had periods in my life where I drank a good amount of booze and smoked cannabis daily, but these habits were no problem to break.  Same with quitting junk food and starting to exercise.  Easy.  Quitting porn?  Difficult.  Quitting masturbation all together?  Even harder (no pun intended).

 

When Israel began to occupy parts of Palestine, they broadcasted pornography as a weapon to demoralize the Palestinians.  The fact that porn was used as A WEAPON should be a red flag.

 

In his book Libido Dominandi, E. Michael Jones talks about how the sexual liberation movement was essentially a means for the government/deep state to demoralize men, enslave them to their desires (all "liberation" from morality & rationality is necessarily followed by an enslavement to desires), and make them easier to control.  This goes back to the French Revolution, which began as a movement to liberate man from the oppression of religion, back to Freud who claimed to want to liberate man from the "repression" using sex, and continues now stronger than ever, with the easy access to porn, sexualized youth, and widespread degeneracy.  E. Michael Jones is a Catholic, so you can take some of it with a grain of salt, but his research is well-done and comprehensive.  I think Christians and non-Christians alike could benefit from this book.  Very recommended.

 

Now, I know pornography is bad, but I am not sure how I feel about masturbation.  It is something humans have surely been doing since the dawn of time, so it doesn't have the same effect as hardcore pornography.  And yet, masturbation is generally based on a lie or some kind of deception: either mental imagery or a physical stimulus.  Either way, there is no real human contact.  I've done some "conscious/meditative" masturbation, and that is probably the best option if one is going to release by themselves.  Still, I think abstaining altogether is the best thing to do, or at least minimizing it.  I am trying to but my words into action, but again, it is one of the most challenging things I have ever done.

Edited May 1, 2019 by futuredaze

[futuredaze]

If anybody here wants some anecdotal stories of people who quit looking at porn and masturbation, search "NoFap" on Youtube or the reddit.com/r/nofap subreddit.  There are plenty of stories of people who quit porn and masturbation, and have reported increased feelings of more energy, confidence, and overall better mood.  I have noticed this from my personal experience too.

Edited May 1, 2019 by futuredaze

[futuredaze]

 

[Armando]

On 4/28/2019 at 8:54 PM, Aetherous said:

 

Is that truly a Tibetan Buddhist method? What Rinpoche taught you that?

Not saying it isn't...but definitely questioning.

I was told it is based on the Maithuna tradition. The idea being that you cannot reach Buddhahood leaving any aspect of your being out of the picture. Therefore, Tibetan Buddhism is a way of true self-integration.

And actually, I was more than just being told about what I mentioned. More like being taken to a place that took me a full three days to recover from afterwards. 😃

Forgive me for not sharing any further details at this time, though. I was told to treat those things with discretion. And again and again, I can see the wisdom in this... As those practises are not without danger without proper preparation and guidance.

And yes, there is much to explore without touching the more extreme realms of experience.

[Nungali]

On 29/04/2019 at 3:05 AM, rideforever said:

Another consequence of excess excitation either sexually or through excess food or excess emotions or excess thinking, is numbness.

 

Excessive anything .....  

 

" Equilibrium is the basis of the Work. ...man is born into this world amidst the Darkness of Matter, and the strife of contending forces; so must his first endeavour be to seek the Light through their reconciliation.  ...  "

 

On 29/04/2019 at 3:05 AM, rideforever said:

 

 

Nothing registers anymore except high octane stimulation, the neurones and brain become reformed to be insensitive.
And following on from that the ability to discriminate between healthy and unhealthy behaviours.
And following on from that, poor choices are made for the long-term future of society.

I believe this may be the underlying energetic pattern for the fall of societies historically.

 

See my above comment  ^

 

On 29/04/2019 at 3:05 AM, rideforever said:

 

As instruments of God we have a certain amount of sexual energy that we may use to create, either families, or as artists developing skill and other endeavours.

 

"As instruments of God  " ... " that we MAY use "  ....   ?  Thats rather 'old school'   .  So ... no sex for fun , nurturing, expression of love , etc   eh?   - just to make more 'God permitted babies' . 

 

On 29/04/2019 at 3:05 AM, rideforever said:

 Which are all extremely rewarding and make us feel good and give meaning to life.   

As we create so we feel great.
But if we instead pour our creative energy into the void, the result is unhappiness and a sense of meaninglessness.

 

 

See first comment above  ^

 

 

[Nungali]

On 29/04/2019 at 4:19 AM, liminal_luke said:

People often overgeneralize their own experience to humanity at large: milk gives me indigestion therefore nobody should drink the stuff.  My personal experience with porn is that it´s not good for me, so I (mostly) avoid it.  While I´m not the only one who finds porn problematic, it´s a big world out there and other people´s mileage can and does vary.

 

I find it crass and boring ,  I prefer  the sensual and the erotic over the pornographic ,  looking at what passes for pornography nowadays , seems like a cheap and seedy  'anatomy lesson' .

 

Then again, I dont have fascination with that  or the 'usually covered up bits'  - I have worked in an operating theatre and been in 'nudist environments' a lot,   so  ...............  meh !

[Dynasty]

On 4/30/2019 at 7:39 PM, futuredaze said:

When Israel began to occupy parts of Palestine, they broadcasted pornography as a weapon to demoralize the Palestinians.  The fact that porn was used as A WEAPON should be a red flag.

 

Makes you wonder who is paying to host all the "free porn" sites. 

 

When I was more naive my leaning was it was CIA funding it as an operation to lower the birthrate. If a bunch of dudes are beating off, and hooked on porn they aren't going to be getting women pregnant. 

 

Now while I'm still not exactly sure who is funding the free sites, I do recognize it as a weapon being used against the west. 

[Kar3n]

1 hour ago, Dynasty said:

 

Makes you wonder who is paying to host all the "free porn" sites. 

 

When I was more naive my leaning was it was CIA funding it as an operation to lower the birthrate. If a bunch of dudes are beating off, and hooked on porn they aren't going to be getting women pregnant. 

 

Now while I'm still not exactly sure who is funding the free sites, I do recognize it as a weapon being used against the west. 

It is public information and easily searchable on whois.

[dawei]

Is this an economic quiz on supply vs demand ?