Limahong Posted June 23, 2019 Hi Creighton and rideforever, Now I find 'small' meaningful... 22 hours ago, silent thunder said: while my body is part of something unimaginably vast it is comprised entirely of the indescribably tiny 11 hours ago, rideforever said: Where you stop drifting in the sea like a bum or a baby, and you actually start to take responsibility for something. You are given a small identity ... can you look after that ? For me now 'small' points to self, basic, focus, manageability... and I am looking at the following from a new Taoist light... Do the above smell of self-destiny, wuwei, contentment...? - Anand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted June 24, 2019 On 23/06/2019 at 11:04 AM, rideforever said: Story and identity are an attempt by nature to trigger your evolution. Where you stop drifting in the sea like a bum or a baby, and you actually start to take responsibility for something. You are given a small identity ... can you look after that ? That's what existence is asking you ... here is a small part of me, what will do with it ? Are you ready to stop being carried around, because it's time for you to participate. And it's a big step. Suddenly rather than sucking on the breast, you have to take ownership of yourself, learn about yourself, investigate life and come up with something. Oh it's so confusing. Most people they do a little investigation - read the internet - and then afterwards they just "agree with everyone else". Ha. That's as far as they have got. It's too tiring, can't we go back to being in the ocean again and drifting like a bum. Sure, no problem. Somebody else will do your work for you. Not sure I understand what you mean... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, CloudHands said: Not sure I understand what you mean... Hi CloudHands, Can I take the liberty to suggest that you try and understand what rideforever is trying to put across. You definitely have a story and identity per what you are undergoing now ~ your evolution... On 6/23/2019 at 5:04 PM, rideforever said: Story and identity are an attempt by nature to trigger your evolution. Where you stop drifting in the sea like a bum or a baby, and you actually start to take responsibility for something. Stop drifting ~ anchor yourself to his post and start taking responsibility by interpreting/countering his thoughts. A worthwhile challenge for you ~ going forward. - Anand Edited June 24, 2019 by Limahong Enhance ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rideforever Posted June 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Limahong said: countering his thoughts. It is arrogant to imagine that the thoughts god has given you, have no meaning, and to think that you are going to overcome them, or counter them. All that is ignorance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, rideforever said: It is arrogant to imagine that the thoughts god has given you, have no meaning, and to think that you are going to overcome them, or counter them. All that is ignorance. Self-knowledge, balance and priorities. Self-knowledge because you can't put you, your history aside of what you are, what you do. Since you have one and choices rely on you. Balance between internal and external, emotion and stillness, reflection and action. Priorities, as you are not god, it defines what you will do... All that is not easy... and personally life do its best do shove me ! Edited June 25, 2019 by CloudHands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, CloudHands said: Self-knowledge, balance and priorities. Hi CloudHands, These factors are perennial even for the millennial. Learning... knowing... balancing... prioritizing... etc... in living... The question is ~ am I living in general or as an individual through self-questioning? - Anand Edited June 25, 2019 by Limahong Enhance ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted June 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Limahong said: Hi CloudHands, These factors are perennial even for the millennial. Learning... knowing... balancing... prioritizing... etc... in living... The question is ~ am I living in general or as an individual through self-questioning? - Anand Both of course, but some never connect to the wholeness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, CloudHands said: Both of course, but some never connect to the wholeness. Hi CloudHands, What is "wholeness"? A word or a feeling? If it is a word ~ can it be elaborated with more words? If it is a feeling ~ can you keep on feeling it? - Anand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spotless Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 3:52 PM, Rocky Lionmouth said: Lets all agree that the Dao gives no shit and rightly so and that for us to follow in it’s footsteps on this as much as possible is a pretty decent idea. It has no footsteps and nothing to follow. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Spotless said: It has no footsteps and nothing to follow. Because... ... The Tao follows only itself? Does The Tao casts a shadow? Edited June 25, 2019 by Limahong Enhance ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted June 25, 2019 Both of course ! When practicing tai chi : Movement between heaven and earth, A chain linking the foot to the head, from the hip to the fist. Full or empty, full and empty. Being a piece or the whole, Being an eye without I. When I think, I observe links : causality, proximity, separation, opposition, are all links and all refer to the same universe. Since I was a teen, one persistent impression is that every thing is way too much tie to others for the concept of liberty has a chance to be real. If Nothing is permanent Nothing happens without a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) How to keep it ? Staying in meditation I suppose... Edited June 25, 2019 by CloudHands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, CloudHands said: Both of course ! The linkage with ... 4 hours ago, CloudHands said: Both of course, but some never connect to the wholeness. ... what is "wholeness"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, CloudHands said: How to keep it ? Staying in meditation I suppose... Hi CloudHands, I like "suppose...". - Anand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted June 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Limahong said: The linkage with ... ... what is "wholeness"? Parts inter-connected acting naturally symbiotically that can be résumé in one (word -world -universe) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spotless Posted June 25, 2019 48 minutes ago, Limahong said: Because... ... The Tao follows only itself? Does The Tao casts a shadow? The Dao does not follow It is shadowless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, CloudHands said: universe Yes/no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted June 25, 2019 Yes... Going practicing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, CloudHands said: Going practicing Good practice to you. Good night to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Spotless said: The Dao does not follow It is shadowless Hi Spotless, There is consistency in argument. But how about the sun and shadow? Ins't the sun a part of The Tao? The sun has set at my end. Good night. - Anand Edited June 25, 2019 by Limahong Enhance ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 26, 2019 On 6/20/2019 at 1:09 AM, silent thunder said: Unless stripping away awareness to the core... we engage the storyteller, who tells us what the world is. No sharing needed. It's an entirely internal process. Hi Creighton, Entirely internal process ~ when I am ONE with/unto myself... experiencing ONEness... thus no sharing needed? - Anand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted June 26, 2019 hmm... is sharing needed? not sure. it seems there can be no giving without receiving buying only occurs with selling break a stick in two and you don't have two tops of sticks. there are no waves comprised of only crests and no valleys always up with down rise with fall what is shared? what is sharable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, silent thunder said: hmm... is sharing needed? Yes ~ when it comes to love. 9 minutes ago, silent thunder said: what is shared? what is sharable LOVE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, silent thunder said: what is love? love.webp Edited June 26, 2019 by Limahong Enhance ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
