Stosh Posted June 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Dynasty said: What would be the benefit of getting a bunch of people riled up nothing happens? (I wrote a bunch more and deleted it). We are in a very dangerous situation. I wish you had left the rest of your post, but, to answer you.... This is the third time Nunes has dodged the question , that I have noted. Nobody in a position to know has contradicted the point , that I have seen. Barr said No American colluded. The IG let the few naughty Folks he found ,off the hook. I can go on but essentially ,they just let the whole thing drop. So the only reason to keep digging is to justify this travesty, sell books and play politics. So , as usual, we have the sleight of hand, a drone is shot down , in this case, and we are all baited to look elsewhere. Iran. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 21, 2019 I wish someone would post convincing argument why I am incorrect, I really do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Stosh said: I wish someone would post convincing argument why I am incorrect, I really do. About what exactly... Nune's avoiding the question ? On that one, I think he is playing it smarter than the left who screamed collusion, impeach and jail before there was any evidence. He likely should just say, 'let us follow the facts and see where they go... a court ultimately decides punishments if a prosecution is brought forth'. I think if one looks at history, very few ever get prosecuted; it may be like an unwritten norm that it would have to be incredibly egregious... but the problem is, some of it is almost what politicians do. Like HRC and destroying email. I don't see them ultimately going after her. But the FISA related start and how this started, if there was a coordinated effort [with other countries] to present collusion, which is election interference... that seems more likely to see some heads roll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) How did they get footage of the drone being shot down? AWACs ? flight crew of 4 +13-19 flight specialists - appx 23 people ( on an E3) How did they know to be there? How do we know, that the Iranians removing a mine from a ship , were not removing something that someone else put on there , to start an engagement? perhaps the party taking the vid. Bolton is a democrat war hawk , Trump is not, and the retaliation was aborted. Biden extorts the Ukrainian government with US money , boasts about it , and continues with his election bid, if I was a small country , I would be thinking about this kind of ethics displayed by the US, thinking real hard. Because in this country , that kind of thing is normal. And if I was Iran , I might remove a mine from a tanker. Comey , when confronted with the Fisa issue regarding the president ,said that it was in fact normal , what this indicates is that the FISA court was a complete formality , because the warrants already in hand , (with the two hop rule) already covered just about anyone they wanted to spy on. Heck ! its Likely that three departments ( minimum) were all spying independently of one another , NSA CIA and FBI. Hillary gets or sends 30000 Emails , and the CIA, who can monitor the entire US , doesn't get wind of it? The FBI doesn't charge in , in the middle of the night , and seize the hard drives, instead Hillary is told what emails to destroy , which she promptly has done , and the other copies are hidden. Why isn't anyone in jail ?, its all normal folks, SOP. Squirrel! Edited June 21, 2019 by Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 21, 2019 53 minutes ago, dawei said: About what exactly... Nune's avoiding the question ? On that one, I think he is playing it smarter than the left who screamed collusion, impeach and jail before there was any evidence. He likely should just say, 'let us follow the facts and see where they go... a court ultimately decides punishments if a prosecution is brought forth'. I think if one looks at history, very few ever get prosecuted; it may be like an unwritten norm that it would have to be incredibly egregious... but the problem is, some of it is almost what politicians do. Like HRC and destroying email. I don't see them ultimately going after her. But the FISA related start and how this started, if there was a coordinated effort [with other countries] to present collusion, which is election interference... that seems more likely to see some heads roll. that No one is going to be held accountable , and he knows it , and he has a prepared deflection , to say we are going to get to the bottom of the scandal instead of being forthright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dynasty Posted June 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Stosh said: I wish you had left the rest of your post, but, to answer you.... One reason I deleted it is because there are just too many variables and too many possibilities of what and why. The other reason is it is depressing. So I thought I'd just sum it up as a dangerous situation we are in as a country. Both sides are being riled up. Both sides believe they are right. Both sides have contempt for the other side. Nothing appears to be happening, or at a minimum things are happening about as fast as watching paint dry in slow motion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dynasty said: One reason I deleted it is because there are just too many variables and too many possibilities of what and why. The other reason is it is depressing. So I thought I'd just sum it up as a dangerous situation we are in as a country. Both sides are being riled up. Both sides believe they are right. Both sides have contempt for the other side. Nothing appears to be happening, or at a minimum things are happening about as fast as watching paint dry in slow motion. I agree 100% , but I am not now believing the paint is going to become dry , at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windwalker Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) Quote President Donald Trump confirmed Friday he pulled back a military strike on Iran after he learned the number of possible casualties. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/21/donald-trump-confirms-decision-to-call-off-military-strike-on-iran/ Good call. I wonder if anyone realizes the amount of thought and will it took to do that. The art of war deals with winning without fighting. It is said to know yourself one may win 50% of the time. To know yourself and the enemy one will win 100% of the time. There is no upside to engagement with Iran. On the other hand the sanctions are taking their toll which is why they are acting out. They've just been given a lifeline let's hope they take it. Edited June 21, 2019 by windwalker 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) NY Times By Michael D. Shear, Eric Schmitt, Michael Crowley and Maggie Haberman June 20, 2019 Iran’s ability to target and destroy the high-altitude American drone, which was developed to evade the very surface-to-air missiles used to bring it down, surprised some Defense Department officials, who interpreted it as a show of how difficult Tehran can make things for the United States as it deploys more troops and steps up surveillance in the region. ................................................................................... To do this( evade missiles) , they fly at altitudes of up to 60,000 feet–– almost twice as high as a commercial airliner. At that height, the drone can see beyond the curvature of the Earth. .............................................................................. Techdirt And we can't even say Obama's reporting requirement was great while it lasted. It went into force July 1, 2016. By the time the first reporting period rolled around in 2018, a different president was in office. As Charlie Savage points out for the New York Times, the new order simply codifies this administration's failure to publish the first required report. Mr. Trump’s revocation of the disclosure rule amounted to a belated acknowledgment that his administration had already changed the Obama policy in practice: The director of national intelligence never put out a report about bystander casualties in 2017, even though the Obama-era order requiring one remained on the books last year, when the report was due out. Trump's order claims the reporting is redundant as there are other drone strike reports already mandated by law. But this revocation gives the CIA -- an agency that has "acquired a taste" for deadly drone strikes -- complete opacity. The reporting requirements left untouched by Trump's order only affects Defense Department drone operations. The CIA's operations -- often carried out away from areas declared war zones by the US government -- will continue to operate under the radar, safely shielded from the eyes of the public. ........................................................ So its reasonable to assume that the drone was flying below its safe altitude in CIA secrecy in a part of the world where mysterious drone strikes are happening in Saudi and Iranian airspace , am mysterious mines are exploding on oil tankers , and Iran is not thought to have the capability to shoot these drones down. The excuse given , was that the Iranians are tricky ,, So tricky in fact , that they can fire missiles above their effective altitude ! So we sent a relatively cheap , secret , slow , big , lumbering surveillance drone , at low altitude , through a tight passage in a political hotspot , where odd drone attacks have been reported ..with an AWACs plane following behind just for good measure. Edited June 21, 2019 by Stosh 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) On 6/21/2019 at 6:25 AM, Stosh said: I wish someone would post convincing argument why I am incorrect, I really do. about what, this? Quote But most of all, this latest ploy, is to provide confusion , so that when the expected indictments start coming out , it can be spun as an evil act ,to the public ,,fitting the rise of the third Reich... instead-of , having the public finally seeing where they have been gaslighted ,by the bad guys , and the collapse of the propaganda scam. yeah, they've been trying to do something like that the whole time cia strings are attached to iran mullahs and that's why now that the deep state has a problem, all of a sudden "woar with Iran" is being discussed. trump has 0 intention of "attacking iran" and knew he was being baited into doing just that, which is precisely why we're reading headlines today about "trump actually gave the word and then rescinded it!!!" hah, show the chain of THAT information flow! we're watching geopolitical games unfold whereby controlled assets are acting as they are told because the controllers are getting backed up against a wall. Senator Hawley Plans to Strip Big Tech of Legal Immunity https://humanevents.com/2019/06/19/senator-social-media-twitter-facebook-section-230-immunity/ big cache of 911 images discovered Spoiler Unseen 9/11 Photos Bought at House Clearance Sale June 19, 2019 Archivists who bought a stash of CDs at a house clearance sale found 2,400 photos of Ground Zero in New York taken following the 9/11 attacks in 2001. They appear to have been taken by an as yet unidentified Construction Worker who helped to clear up the wreckage of the World Trade Center towers and surrounding area. The CDs were in poor condition but the data was ultimately retrievable. The archivists have uploaded the photos to Flickr. The digital albums include images of Ground Zero itself taken both at ground level and from above, construction staff at work and the damaged interiors of the blocks surrounding the towers. Nearly 3,000 people died when four hijacked airliners were crashed into the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania. *Some Stunning Photos in the BBC Sauce article: Sauce: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-48689783 >SEE ALL PHOTOS ON FLICKR: https://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/albums/72157708997281912 ow, but deserved it https://www.news.com.au/world/africa/vigilante-mob-rips-off-accused-child-rapists-testicles/news-story/d1b89284782f41e2488268884dd5aad4 https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/20/court-trump-admin-can-cut-planned-parenthood-family-planning-funding/ Spoiler Oregon Republican senator threatens state troopers, warns them to ‘come heavily armed’ Updated Jun 19, 2019; The governor’s hint that she would consider sending troopers in the event of a second walkout triggered an aggressive response from Boquist, which was captured by a KGW news team at the Capitol. “This is what I told the superintendent,” Boquist said, referring to OSP Superintendent Travis Hampton. “Send bachelors and come heavily armed. I’m not going to be a political prisoner in the state of Oregon. It’s just that simple.” Embedded video Pat Dooris ✔ @PatDooris Oregon state senator @BrianBoquistGOP said if R's walk out to stop a vote on Cap and Trade and @OregonGovBrown sends state police to bring him back, they should be single and well armed. Your take? 290 2:53 PM - Jun 19, 2019 604 people are talking about this Twitter Ads info and privacy A spokeswoman for the Oregon State Police did not respond to an inquiry Wednesday afternoon about whether the agency is investigating Boquist’s threat. Baertschiger’s spokeswoman also did not respond to a request for comment. Senate President Peter Courtney’s spokeswoman said she might have a comment, but had not responded by 6 p.m. In an email to The Oregonian/OregonLive Wednesday afternoon, Boquist stuck with his earlier statement and rejected a reporter’s characterization of his threat to troopers as “thinly veiled.” “Nothing thinly veiled,” Boquist wrote. “I have been in political coup attempts. I have been held hostage overseas. I have been jailed politically overseas … Not going to be arrested as a political prisoner in Oregon period.” As Willamette Week has reported, Boquist is a U.S. Army veteran whose businesses include military training and an international operation that journalists described in the 1990s as a paramilitary force of armed American and Russian ex-military officers. Boquist contends that state troopers only have the power to enforce criminal violations and arrest warrants, not to compel absent lawmakers to return to the Capitol during a legislative session. SAUCE, https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/06/oregon-republican-senator-issues-threat-to-state-troopers.html I believe the ball is back in Senora Brown's court. She finally fucked around and found a guy who still has a set of balls. Good on him. oof Spoiler and maybe a coincidence, but Spoiler they know now that giving us the internet was a huge mistake, lol lol dumbass bernie https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/21/bernie-announces-million-illegals-would-get-health-care-under-his-plan/ you might as well just come out and say there's 20-25 million illegals in the USA gee I wonder why democrats want to make sure they can vote Edited June 22, 2019 by joeblast 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) Disprove ,That no one is going to be held accountable. Dawei's assertion that he thinks Nunes is being 'slick', ,,is a guess without a supportive argument. And even following his guess, he agrees that it's not likely. So to me, it appears he thinks HIS own assessment isn't likely either. Gimme a reason to expect jail for any of them , like,,, any single lawmaker in a position to know, saying outright, that someone is going to jail. It seems, At worst, the guilty will be pointed at, so they can write a book from the pov of a bad boy. I see some hopeful suggestions in the news but ..... Edited June 23, 2019 by Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 23, 2019 I'm starting to think that even the good guys aren't telling the whole story. Nunes ,Jordan etc, .. and that the whole of the story is that they are just digging at talking points. Yanking our chains just like the Dems. do. The check is in the mail, ...Honest!...and it's going to be so stunning when you get it that you're gonna be sorry you doubted. Oh Look! A squirrel! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dynasty Posted June 23, 2019 There are two schools of thought I can think of off the top of my head. The first is we'll start seeing people held accountable in a "drip drip drip drip drip" fashion leading up to the 2020 election. A steady drumbeat of Dems getting raided, indicted, prosecuted maybe. The second is we will not see any accountability until DJT's second term. But there will be lots of talk of getting to the truth and the origin of the matter from the usual personalities leading up to the election. Scandals and bombshells A-Z being talked about, stuff anyone who's been paying attention to already knew about 3 years ago. What I for-see is the establishment effectively resisting for another 4 years. They'll lose some ground. But come 2024 once again a Yes Man will be in the WH. And not much time will be wasted to take anything lost back. Unless there is some spectacular 4D chess is going on in the background that we're not aware of. Hopefully long term property rights are protected, the US dollar remains stable, and the crazy socialists don't raid our bank accounts and investments to fund their utopia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) On 6/22/2019 at 10:50 PM, Stosh said: I'm starting to think that even the good guys aren't telling the whole story. Nunes ,Jordan etc, .. and that the whole of the story is that they are just digging at talking points. Yanking our chains just like the Dems. do. The check is in the mail, ...Honest!...and it's going to be so stunning when you get it that you're gonna be sorry you doubted. Oh Look! A squirrel! of course they are not telling the whole story but not to yank chains, its because the time isnt quite ripe yet. 2020 will not be left to chance and trump has distanced himself (or at least kinda given the appearance of not being too involved or outwardly interested in) from the legal happenings, so its going to wind up being that - jeez, he didnt really have much control over how these things have played out, because its the courts, after all. in such a scenario, his reelection is all but guaranteed and its not him releasing damaging info on opponents (which is why there's so many democrats on stage right now.) ammo is expensive. one side doesnt have much of it, and trump's team is sitting on a pile of it - from the outward appearing do-nothingness of Sessions AG tenure to the , my money is on...."you're watching a movie" means I can envision this whole thing laid out in an MS Project file and timeline'd all out ahead of time, from the first scotus seating to the 9th circuit no longer being a progressive Thorazine drip into american politics on the judicial side, to the mass exodus on the legislative side - this was very well and thoroughly planned out, and it appears to be going along perhaps the best possible trajectory for the operation's design intent. Acting DHS head about to be in big trouble if he's not already https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-23/acting-dhs-chief-sabotaged-ice-raids-leaking-plan-washington-post (see, that's expensive and single-use ammo) Ralis is going to absolutely FREAK out when California votes red in 2020 Spoiler Spoiler Some anon posted a kiddie porn pic over the weekend and got banned faster than you can say Rumpelstiltskin. Doesnt normally happen, especially in the Q threads, which could mean attacksetup or there's some busts with some significant name(s) coming soon. Info on nxvim got out and its painting quite a web, ooh there's scientology, and the clintons...its going to get ugly... but it gets weirder...(of course, what else would you expect)... Quote So just after I posted my findings on the magnetic properties of hemoglobin, the thread got archived. Since Raniere is a Tesla-kind of wizard when it comes to electromagnetics, I thought i'd check the EM properties of blood. Turns out there is a study by Dr.Alfred E. Mirsky of the Hospital of the Rockefeller Institute. This study was started in 1845 by Faraday. Got me thinking of the reason one would want to have these properties in his walls; Faraday cage blocks all incoming EM because of iron, blood contains iron -> Possible reason because NWO wants to bombard earth with mind control radiation? or other way around, mind control people inside a building with their own devices, see Raniere's Luciferian diagram. You can read the study here https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1076743/ or in PDF format https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1076743/pdf/pnas01768-0018.pdf >A lot of patents that I looked at related to Mr. Keith have to do with 'hypnosis' and secure network messaging/encryption as well as locating mobile devices and remotely controlling them. There's a few weird 'medical' device patents in there as well. I even found a couple relating to 'capturing and streaming live events through encrypted networks' and patents for voice authentication locks. Even some patents to remotely stop vehicles and fuck with the gas gauge. The more I look into it the more shit I find, patents to do with cloning, biofeedback clothing with real time monitoring, cameras that do not require any sort of internal HDD for live continuous monitoring from a remote location, being able to actually control things with said biofeedback clothing (thought, movement), and look at that rating levels of distortion in media and journalism and news content…and look at the filing date. >https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170177717A1/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere&page=3 >https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140270701A1/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere&page=3 >https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140277622A1/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere&page=3 >https://patents.google.com/patent/US9039306B2/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere&page=2 >https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140276235A1/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere&page=2 >https://patents.google.com/patent/US9243950B2/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere&page=2 >https://patents.google.com/patent/US9884596B2/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere&page=2 >https://patents.google.com/patent/US10271981B2/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere&page=1 >https://patents.google.com/patent/US9179247B2/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere&page=1 >https://patents.google.com/patent/EP2229636B1/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere&page=1 >https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150228281A1/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere >https://patents.google.com/patent/US8068592B2/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere >https://patents.google.com/patent/AU2004296732C1/en?inventor=Keith+A.+Raniere one of raneire's patent applications was something along the lines of can you deprogram someone...and something about luciferian in there also I dont exactly recall it. seemed pretty whacked at the time Quote Don't forget that the patent approval was retracted TODAY 6-23-2019. but then again, "MK Ultra" was allegedly closed or stopped, so where'd the CIA take it after that? Quote Check out this patent that was filed by Keith Rainerehttps://patents.google.com/?inventor=Keith+A.+Ranierehttps://patents.google.com/patent/US20130281879A1/en>Determination of whether a luciferian can be rehabilitated This goes so much deeper than sex. Do you really think the satanic elites need a cult to acquire underage sex slaves? Absolutely not, they can get whatever they desire on demand. They don't need Keith or his cult for sex slaves. What they need from Keith is the information from his Mind Control experiments. Due to the restrictions placed on the State after the Freedom of Information act, secret government programs like MK Ultra and Monarch Programming had to be transferred to the private sector where citizens can't legally sue for declassified information. I believe that NXIVM is sponsored by the CIA's private sector affiliates and is a front for running experiments on using sex to brainwash people and turn them into compliant citizens. This would help explain any connection between Rainere, Alefantis, Podesta and the Clintons. NXIVM is a government mind control program, not just a simple sex cult. Keith Rainere is a Crowley-like magician who uses physical and mental stimuli to reprogram people according to his desires. This manifests right now as "Have sex with Keith" but it could easily spiral into "Kill this person for me" the way Manson did (who was also a chaos magician likely affiliated with the government and L Ron Hubbard and Jack Parsons, but that's a different story). and then dont forget Oprah's involvement with John of God... or the Cemex links Spoiler and this is all real, real REAL ugly Quote CEMEX qrdhttp://magaimg.net/img/8a54.jpg Reniere Patentshttps://files.catbox.moe/0z7z4y.png>>217276596 Rothschild Connectionhttp://magaimg.net/img/8a4j.jpg Soros Connectionhttp://magaimg.net/img/8a4k.jpg CEMEX invest group linked to Blackrock/Vanguardhttp://magaimg.net/img/8a5i.png NXIUM occult meaninghttp://magaimg.net/img/8a5m.png NXIVM Affiliated Companieshttps://artvoice.com/2018/05/12/government-unveils-list-of-90-nxivm-affiliated-companies-bronfman-companies-included/ NXIVM News Articleshttp://archive.is/6lyCphttp://archive.is/bV1Jyhttp://archive.is/QPo55http://archive.is/gyLxShttp://archive.is/vUQZ7http://archive.is/eBoxIhttp://archive.is/tybvxhttp://archive.is/6L02Fhttp://archive.is/8nUzKhttps://archive.fo/TybXUhttps://archive.fo/EWl6v and https://bigleaguepolitics.com/comeys-fbi-agent-peter-strzok-manipulated-search-warrant-for-weiners-laptop-to-protect-hillary/ in case its not known by folks already I'm making the editor go wacky again, which means I've had this window open pasting stuff in for too long again Edited June 24, 2019 by joeblast 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 24, 2019 I don't think we can really get an honest read on where folks will sit when the election rolls around , the Dems are kidding themselves that they have policies that their base wants , but it just may be that the ploy of demonizing the Pres. has been more effective then they think. Just like we may be kidding ourselves , that they will see reason enough to vote properly in their own interest. I believe Pelosi has been a Chair of the Dem committee since 1981 ( wiki) and has a net worth over 26 million, now she is speaker of the House , and meanwhile, California has been going down the tubes . One would think that all the folks out on the west coast would have to do , is look around themselves to decide if that leadership has been working well. Like you can look at The 'sanctuary cities' and notice the homelessness feces and drug needles everywhere, and decide that -Even if I am not a genius, this is clearly not good , and we should give the other side a go at this, if for no other reason, it is to punish the wicked. It could all be a strategy , to keep all the cards close to the chest , so as to spring the ammo at the right time, but meanwhile , the enemy has dug in , and continues to reinforce the echo chamber , to the point where the voters cease to listen, and its embedded. They have no doubts because they have been given no reason to seriously doubt. Its all just stories and fabrications that can be dismissed. Again , I have heard no actual indications that the spying and deception of the FISA court and the purchase of foreign propaganda , and the destruction of emails , and the defiance of all sorts of laws, is in fact going to be prosecuted and result in actual punishment. From yourself either! its just a hope. It probably is legal to buy propaganda if one has an intermediary. The FISA process is probably just a formality. The governors and Mayors of Sanctuary cities may be within their purview to defy federal mandate , and the way Biden conducted his business overseas is out of the Jurisdiction of American laws. The only redress is at the voting booth. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Stosh said: I don't think we can really get an honest read on where folks will sit when the election rolls around 100% true. In today's cultural climate, the only correct answer to any political question asked publicly is the leftist answer. Nobody dares speak the truth for fear of the backlash. People know this, so they act accordingly. But in the ballot box they vote their conscience. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said: 100% true. In today's cultural climate, the only correct answer to any political question asked publicly is the leftist answer. Nobody dares speak the truth for fear of the backlash. People know this, so they act accordingly. But in the ballot box they vote their conscience. Unfortunately its their conscience that is the problem. The Dems. have realized that if the media doesn't expose them , they can run their cities states and country into the ground.. and the voters wont be feelin' it.. so they can win , despite having no solutions. They can say Well have you been better off under Trump ,or have you seen only chaos and divisiveness? They happily benefit from destroying the public situation , and the voter thinks they are doing the 'right' thing. This is why they do not care if they make bad law,,,, outlaw hot dogs , big sodas , babies and clean sidewalks. Edited June 24, 2019 by Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted June 24, 2019 @StoshIt's not simply a case of the Democrats and the Media in bed together. I used to think that was the case, and called it "media bias." No, it's far worse than that. Ninety percent of the media are Democrats (and many of them bona-fide Leftists). They take their marching orders from the DNC. They are, quite literally, the propaganda arm of the Democratic party. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said: @StoshIt's not simply a case of the Democrats and the Media in bed together. I used to think that was the case, and called it "media bias." No, it's far worse than that. Ninety percent of the media are Democrats (and many of them bona-fide Leftists). They take their marching orders from the DNC. They are, quite literally, the propaganda arm of the Democratic party. Yep , I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 24, 2019 By Valerie Richardson - The Washington Times - Monday, June 24, 2019 A top Google executive was caught on hidden camera declaring that the federal government should not break up the tech giant — because then it would be more difficult to prevent “the next Trump situation.” A Project Veritas undercover video released Monday shows Jen Gennai, head of Google’s Responsible Innovation team, which seeks to ensure “fair and ethical outcomes” via artificial intelligence, disputing Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s antitrust push. “Elizabeth Warren is saying we should break up Google,” Ms. Gennai said. “And like, I love her but she’s very misguided. That will not make it better, it will make it worse, because now all these smaller companies who don’t have the same resources that we do will be charged with preventing the next Trump situation.” She added, “It’s like a small company cannot do that.” The video, part of a Project Veritas sting operation into Silicon Valley, provided fodder to conservatives who have long charged Google with manipulating its search engine to promote a left-of-center political agenda. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) “The result of a consistent and total substitution of lies for factual truth is not that the lie will now be accepted as truth and truth be defamed as a lie, but that the sense by which we take our bearings in the real world—and the category of truth versus falsehood is among the mental means to this end—is being destroyed.” ― Hannah Arendt I would offer , that if one could arrange a civilized discussion with a panel of TDS victims , and explain at length and with great patience, the argument for supporting Trump, and present all the evidence and logic , that it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans, and it would scare the bejeezus out of them into understanding that talking points are not of use for people who have lost touch with their moral center. Twenty years ago , I doubt that you could even get a 51% percent majority of women to legalize killing babies in the third trimester. And - That if you presented the thousands of homeless in LA , and suggested that the city should become a sanctuary for yet more desperate people , who are not even from here, and give them all free health care , they would ask if you were out of your mind. Edited June 24, 2019 by Stosh 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windwalker Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stosh said: it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans Very true...waiting to get my car fixed an older gentlemen, started up a conversation about trump...needless to say it was surreal, he mentioned that Trump had never served in the military among other things, I asked him if he served he said he was a 21yr veteran,,, I thanked him for his service and told him I too was a vet,,,20yrs...he retired as an E-8 I as an E-7.... He continued on his rant,,,I politely said we have a difference of opinion. He kept talking I calmly said we seem to think differently on this....and asked him about his car, what was it getting fixed for ect..... I have some relatives that one can not mention anything about whats going on...its weird. They all operate from emotion, there is no amount of facts or logic that will sway them......A good exercise in keeping ones center, and non attachment....but kinda boring Often wonder how their spirits came to be so damaged. Edited June 25, 2019 by windwalker 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) Arendt suggests that they have been systematically lied to, so they have given up trying to know what the truth is, they start seeing the issues in terms of a personal emotional reaction of the moment. Like guys at war, not knowing the big picture, they are limiting their concerns to themselves ,maybe the guy next to them, and maybe the team they fight for. The other team is demonized ,dehumanized , and this excuses any abuse, any crazy act. They think they are exhibiting socially accepted virtue. Just ask! them ...if you need to . It's that obvious. We know it as....TDS. Edited June 25, 2019 by Stosh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
windwalker Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Stosh said: A Project Veritas undercover video released Monday shows Jen Gennai, head of Google’s Responsible Innovation team, which seeks to ensure “fair and ethical outcomes” via artificial intelligence, disputing Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s antitrust push. seems like google is censoring the utube https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/24/insider-blows-whistle-exec-reveals-google-plan-to-prevent-trump-situation-in-2020-on-hidden-cam/#fvp_Insider-Blows-Whistle-Exec-Reveals-Google-Plan-to-Prevent-_Trump-situation_-in-2020-on-Hidden-Cam,6s Edited June 25, 2019 by windwalker 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
