There Is No Body

[rideforever]

Just listening to UG Krishnamurti talking.

He was saying that in order to "experience" the "body" what we do is think about various concepts we have of the body coming from psychology and medicine and whatever.

And so when we "experience the body" what we really are doing is thinking about these concepts.

We don't really "experience the body", there is no body.

It seems to be a learning tool that we identify with.

We have the concept of "pain".

Is there really "pain" or is it a concept that we think ?

Also it says in ACIM that there is no body.

 

 

[Stosh]

1 hour ago, rideforever said:

Just listening to UG Krishnamurti talking.

He was saying that in order to "experience" the "body" what we do is think about various concepts we have of the body coming from psychology and medicine and whatever.

And so when we "experience the body" what we really are doing is thinking about these concepts.

We don't really "experience the body", there is no body.

It seems to be a learning tool that we identify with.

We have the concept of "pain".

Is there really "pain" or is it a concept that we think ?

Also it says in ACIM that there is no body.

 

 

This contention, about the nonexistence of body, has two assault corridors. 

 

If the body intrudes upon the mind,( you stub a toe take a drug)

Then your body exists for you, or in conjunction with you.

 

If anything exists ,all things that exist, do,,

And if nothing actually exists, 

 

then the definition of existing Is misconstrued to be describing a trait which fits none of the stuff that comprises the universe.

 

The idea is to rattle the paradigms we hold rigid , but it can also turn folks off the path, because it's an untenable assertion. 

[rideforever]

How I interpret UGK / ACIM assertions is that our identification with the "body" is extremely strong and gives rise to "the world" and other things.

If we could arrive in UGK's natural state, then our identification-constructions would not interfere control take ownership of the natural flow of things.

So basically, all the problems that we try to "fix" ... there is an underlying problem that we are not in the natural state, and this causes identification-construction-action, which is the true problem.

Additionally, I would say that it takes time for the intelligence of the being to be able to grow mature until it suddenly comprehends what is occurring and there is a collapse of the identification-construction-action, and the entry into the natural state.

And that is the point of spirituality, to rapidly accelerate the growth of the spiritual intelligence.

In the natural state the body flourishes without the interruptions, and the being is at peace and does not seek the kind of "understanding" that human societies constantly assert which is actually a form of identification-assertion-control.