Some Thoughts about the Neutral Quality of the Tao

[vonkrankenhaus]

2 hours ago, Everything said:

It is a transducer. A receiver and transmitter of energetic thought patterns. And you are capable of receiving energetic thought patterns from many different kind of frequencies and energies. And as you hold your awareness upon this thought of energetic pattern, you are allowing it to expand, and you are thus capable of receiving and transmitting more energetic thought patterns of these same like frequencies. Of similar and like energy which is of likeness to that. More and more. 

 

So you are, through your mind, capable of allowing your very own achievement of being, doing or having whatever it is you want. 

 

This is all true.

 

Everything regarding this in humans is assaulted from birth by those who want to diminish and control people.

 

Because this is, by today's standards, the most powerful thing in all of creation.

 

More powerful than any man-made mechanical "weapon" or manufactured "tool".

 

Rather, it can easily comprehend and control all of those, and supersede them at any time, or simply remove all need of them.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Everything]

10 minutes ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

This is all true.

 

Everything regarding this in humans is assaulted from birth by those who want to diminish and control people.

 

Because this is, by today's standards, the most powerful thing in all of creation.

 

More powerful than any man-made mechanical "weapon" or manufactured "tool".

 

Rather, it can easily comprehend and control all of those, and supersede them at any time, or simply remove all need of them.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

Only if you will allow it. You are so free, you can choose bondage.

 

But you do not gain freedom by trying to control what the people around you are doing. Your infinitely and eternally worthy nature, does not care about the conditions of your life, in the way you perceive them to be from a point of view of vulnerability, which is simply a misperception. As your unconditional nature, you love any and all conditions, because you can see the true value in ALL OF IT! And so, no matter who you are or where you are or when you are, you can always find your way back home TO WHO IT IS YOU TRUELY ARE, UNCONDITIONALLY, EMOTIONALLY. And even if you can't, well, you got death! Freedom. So nothing can ever go wrong. 

 

I know people who have been in the absolute worsed mind controlling abbusive horrific life situations, and they simply shifted all of that, with a simple shift in perspective, that happened in just 1 second. They were in the ground in a hole, and they looked at an ant, and they saw the ant didn't have a care in the world, and so they felt emotional relief. Tremendous emotional relief. Of having found freedom! And they only found it and perceived it, because they already contained it within themselves! And after they had this experience, their circumstances literally disintegrated all by themselves. And they were instantly free forevermore, having escaped from an impossible to escape situation! Was that a miracle? No! It is in accordance with the way the laws of the universe work! You create your own reality.  You really do. You really are that powerful. And learning how powerful you truely are, then people become interested, in their freedom, to offer thoughts more consciously and deliberately. For the greater and more fuller allowed realisation of all that they truely are aswell. 

 

And there is no condition or life circumstance in existance, that cannot be experienced in utter joy and in full allowed harmony with all that you truely are. Evermore. In your evermore state of ever becoming. You just gotta be willen to feel better, unconditionally, meaning regardless of the conditions of your life. Because it is your state of being that truely matters and truely matterializes. 

 

Once youn align with who it is you really are, nothing can ever go wrong in that, except the unintentional and old habbitually practiced thoughts of resistance, that we humans often offer, unintentionally, in which case you would emmediately feel the indicative negative emotion, and that would be MORE than enough to bring this to your awareness. So in a sense, you don't ever need to be afraid. Why? Because you got fear. You can feel energy in advance. And thus also do something about releasing resistance, in advance. So as to ensure your effortless realignment with all that you truely are, ongoingly and evermore. Effortlessly, naturally and in full harmony with whole of all that you truely are being and becoming, evermore. 

[vonkrankenhaus]

Look deeper.

 

Do neurons feature at all in this? Does awareness? Does functionality?

 

Because, if neurons are in any way important to human functioning, know that humans in developed countries have for some time been injected about 72 times with neurotoxic substances before the age of 18, in conjunction with the consumption of hormone interrupting chemicals in food that the parents ate during conception, gestation and breastfeeding, and other subsequent "medications".

 

Then they get about 13 straight years of overt brainwashing.

 

Do not underestimate the effect this has on access to the functionality we are describing.

 

Changing thought is good, but consider what is doing this and what condition it is in.

 

This is why we do "cultivation" of ourselves.

 

Modern way is to let rich people cultivate everyone with corporations, and I am saying that what they produce is not "fully" up to what you and I are discussing.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

Edited July 5, 2019 by vonkrankenhaus

[vonkrankenhaus]

10 minutes ago, Everything said:

And there is no condition or life circumstance in existance, that cannot be experienced in utter joy and in full allowed harmony with all that you truely are.

 

This is true.

 

Even in a war, even in a robbery at gun point, you are free.

 

Nobody is there making assessment or deciding the meaning but you.

 

But then we must look at what "you" is and how this functions.

 

And that is what you describing. I am merely adding that we must also consider the raw physiological functioning, or how "intact" someone is as a human to have good human functioning.

 

Natural functioning as produced by nature is as you say.

 

But modern humans are not really produced by natural means or phenomena and are not functioning normally at all.

 

That is why what you are detailing is a "novelty" now - something people seek.

 

It's just normal human functions. Once human, it just happens.

 

If not really naturally human, this is "esoteric" or "mystical" and such a novelty that people paying thousands of dollars to hear gurus talk about it, etc. Such a novelty that people are thinking universities must study to find it and describe it. Elaborate psychological explorations and expositions are launched to find what ordinary children would do if they were functioning normally.. 

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Wu Ming Jen]

The reason why people can be led and mis directed is because the post heaven mind will takes over as commander in chief of a human. The post heaven mind will is easily divided and very easy to control.

 

When the pre heaven mind will takes its rightful place as commander the dust of this world has nothing to stick to.

 

Being human sucks a very poor way to live, investing time into what dies hardly seems like living to me. Real person or divine human are terms I relate to taking over what is rightfully ours now and after the life of this body

[Everything]

1 hour ago, Wu Ming Jen said:

The reason why people can be led and mis directed is because the post heaven mind will takes over as commander in chief of a human. The post heaven mind will is easily divided and very easy to control.

 

When the pre heaven mind will takes its rightful place as commander the dust of this world has nothing to stick to.

 

Being human sucks a very poor way to live, investing time into what dies hardly seems like living to me. Real person or divine human are terms I relate to taking over what is rightfully ours now and after the life of this body

That is the best and most beautiful thing I have ever heard in my entire life. 

Thanks. You summed up everything I was trying to say, in your own very beautifully well formulated words. Perfect. Thank you. 

Edited July 5, 2019 by Everything

[Everything]

1 hour ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

This is true.

 

Even in a war, even in a robbery at gun point, you are free.

 

Nobody is there making assessment or deciding the meaning but you.

 

But then we must look at what "you" is and how this functions.

 

And that is what you describing. I am merely adding that we must also consider the raw physiological functioning, or how "intact" someone is as a human to have good human functioning.

 

Natural functioning as produced by nature is as you say.

 

But modern humans are not really produced by natural means or phenomena and are not functioning normally at all.

 

That is why what you are detailing is a "novelty" now - something people seek.

 

It's just normal human functions. Once human, it just happens.

 

If not really naturally human, this is "esoteric" or "mystical" and such a novelty that people paying thousands of dollars to hear gurus talk about it, etc. Such a novelty that people are thinking universities must study to find it and describe it. Elaborate psychological explorations and expositions are launched to find what ordinary children would do if they were functioning normally.. 

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

Humans are not produced by natural means?

AHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAHAAAAAAAA!!! 

 

... 

 

... You're joking, right? 

 

Edit:

They are produced by loving sex. Trust me, if the man or boy doesn't love the woman or girl, they wont be able to have an orgasm. And if they cannot have an orgasm, they wont ejaculate either. And so there is no baby. And if the woman or girl doesn't orgasm, she also wont be impregnated. Maybe but the chance is very slim. So it's true natural mutual love, and allowed flow of their greater non-physical beingness that is what that orgasmic experience is. 

Edited July 5, 2019 by Everything

[vonkrankenhaus]

6 minutes ago, Everything said:

You're joking, right? 

 

No.

 

Civilization and Agriculture are man-made interventions meant to aggregate power by producing large artificial populations abstracted from natural order in various environments where this could not naturally happen.

 

If you think Civilization is producing normal natural human beings as nature does, you are mistaken.

 

And it has only become more abstract and synthetic over time.

 

Soon, people will be born into patented DNA and structure, in artificial wombs.

 

Right now, the normal ones are made to be more synthetic, but later - 100% synthetic.

 

This is the major issue in the world today - the side effects of this grab for power that has been going on for some thousands of years.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[vonkrankenhaus]

8 minutes ago, Everything said:

They are produced by loving sex

 

So, I will remind you, are birth defects.

 

Look into what "Civilization" actually is.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Everything]

2 minutes ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

No.

 

Civilization and Agriculture are man-made interventions meant to aggregate power by producing large artificial populations abstracted from natural order in various environments where this could not naturally happen.

 

If you think Civilization is producing normal natural human beings as nature does, you are mistaken.

 

And it has only become more abstract and synthetic over time.

 

Soon, people will be born into patented DNA and structure, in artificial wombs.

 

Right now, the normal ones are made to be more synthetic, but later - 100% synthetic.

 

This is the major issue in the world today - the side effects of this grab for power that has been going on for some thousands of years.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

Wow thanks! I never heard of this. This is mind blowingly crazy. 

 

Ok, so who are the normal ones? Like, syntethic? How? 

[Everything]

1 minute ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

So, I will remind you, are birth defects.

 

Look into what "Civilization" actually is.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

Birth defects? So everyone's a robot? Is that what you are saying? 

[vonkrankenhaus]

1 hour ago, Wu Ming Jen said:

the pre heaven mind

 

I somewhat disagree with the modern interpretations of Early Heaven and Late Heaven sequences.

 

He Tu is showing the Ecliptic Pole using Heaven and Earth, which is that axis, and showing natural energetic cycle such as can see in one day, and shows the interaction of polarity, which is asymmetrical, by tracking movement. All movement is Yang.

 

Lo Shu has that structure, but shows the Pole AFTER the early one. Early state was Draco as the Pole constellation, and now it is Big Dipper. Lo Shu is showing the stars of the Big Dipper revolving around that same axis previously depicted using just Heaven and Earth. Also, use of Fire and Water in Lo Shu is a more complex philosophical statement about polarity - YinYang, showing "true" Yin and Yang, etc.

 

I do not think this is about what people today think it is.

 

Basically, this is about making a "Calendar".

 

Empirical observations using a calendar is what produces Wu Xing, Medicine, and so on.

 

Wu Xing is also just observing the 5 visible planets rising times and relationships.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[vonkrankenhaus]

18 minutes ago, Everything said:

Birth defects? So everyone's a robot? Is that what you are saying? 

 

Consult medical news items, and degenerative disease statistics.

 

Then look at the results of Agriculture on human structure by looking at archaeology.

 

Look at fertility stats right now.

 

Look at mental illness stats right now.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[vonkrankenhaus]

26 minutes ago, Everything said:

Ok, so who are the normal ones?

 

They say "The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth".

 

Worth thinking about.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Lost in Translation]

1 hour ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

They say "The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth".

 

Worth thinking about.

 

Indeed. Let's clarify the original meaning of "meek."

 

Quote

Meekness [N] [T] [E]

 

Late twentieth-century Western culture does not hold meekness to be a virtue, in contrast to the ancient Near East and the Greco-Roman world, which placed a high premium on it. This dramatic shift in values is problematic for contemporary biblical translation. Most modern versions replace the noun "meekness" by "gentleness" or "humility, " largely as a result of the pejorative overtones of weakness and effeminacy now associated with meekness. These connotations were not always predominant in the word, for ancient Near Eastern kings were not reluctant to describe themselves as meek in the same context in which they described themselves as mighty kings (Babylonian asru and sanaqu; Aramaic nh). What has prompted the discrepancy between the biblical and contemporary attitudes toward this virtue?

 

There are two essential components for this quality to come into play in the Bible: a conflict in which an individual is unable to control or influence circumstances. Typical human responses in such circumstances include frustration, bitterness, or anger, but the one who is guided by God's spirit accepts God's ability to direct events ( Gal 5:23 ; Eph 4:2 ; Col 3:12 ; 1 Tim 6:11 ; Titus 3:2 ; James 1:21 ; 3:13 ). Meekness is therefore an active and deliberate acceptance of undesirable circumstances that are wisely seen by the individual as only part of a larger picture. Meekness is not a resignation to fate, a passive and reluctant submission to events, for there is little virtue in such a response. Nevertheless, since the two responses — resignation and meekness are externally often indistinguishable, it is easy to see how what was once perceived as a virtue has become a defect in contemporary society. The patient and hopeful endurance of undesirable circumstances identifies the person as externally vulnerable and weak but inwardly resilient and strong. Meekness does not identify the weak but more precisely the strong who have been placed in a position of weakness where they persevere without giving up. The use of the Greek word when applied to animals makes this clear, for it means "tame" when applied to wild animals. In other words, such animals have not lost their strength but have learned to control the destructive instincts that prevent them from living in harmony with others.

 

Therefore, it is quite appropriate for all people, from the poor to ancient Near Eastern kings, to describe their submission to God by the term "meek" (Moses in Num 12:3 ). On the other hand, this quality by definition cannot be predicated of God, and therefore constitutes one of the attributes of creatures that they do not share with their Creator. Nevertheless, in the incarnation Jesus is freely described as meek, a concomitant of his submission to suffering and to the will of the Father ( Matt 11:29 ; 21:5 ; 2 Cor 10:1 ). The single most frequently attested context in which the meek are mentioned in the Bible is one in which they are vindicated and rewarded for their patient endurance ( Psalm 22:26 ; 25:9 ; 37:11 ; 76:9 ; 147:6 ;149:4 ; Isa 11:4 ; 29:19 ; 61:1 ; Zeph 2:3 ; Matt 5:5 ).

 

Samuel A. Meier

 

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/meekness/

 

[Stosh]

1 hour ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

They say "The Meek Shall Inherit the Earth".

 

Worth thinking about.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

Not if the Meek get their asses handed to them beforehand. 

[Stosh]

10 minutes ago, Lost in Translation said:

 

Indeed. Let's clarify the original meaning of "meek."

 

 

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionary/meekness/

 

Meek is an old Norse word and therefore not an original language of the bible, however ...

 

The 19th century theologian James Strong argued in his Strong's Concordance #4239 that the Greek word praus (πραεῖς) means mild or gentle, but it is not suggesting weakness but instead the way power is handled. It is "strength under control". It is demonstrating power without undue harshness. The English language does not have a word that translates conveying both gentleness and power together. But perhaps the word "mercy" or "merciful" comes close to describing the exercise of power that is "strength under control".

 

The United States under Trump , therefore should be considered meek in a biblical sense .

 

 

Edited July 5, 2019 by Stosh

[Wu Ming Jen]

1 hour ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

I somewhat disagree with the modern interpretations of Early Heaven and Late Heaven sequences.

 

He Tu is showing the Ecliptic Pole using Heaven and Earth, which is that axis, and showing natural energetic cycle such as can see in one day, and shows the interaction of polarity, which is asymmetrical, by tracking movement. All movement is Yang.

 

Lo Shu has that structure, but shows the Pole AFTER the early one. Early state was Draco as the Pole constellation, and now it is Big Dipper. Lo Shu is showing the stars of the Big Dipper revolving around that same axis previously depicted using just Heaven and Earth. Also, use of Fire and Water in Lo Shu is a more complex philosophical statement about polarity - YinYang, showing "true" Yin and Yang, etc.

 

I do not think this is about what people today think it is.

 

Basically, this is about making a "Calendar".

 

Empirical observations using a calendar is what produces Wu Xing, Medicine, and so on.

 

Wu Xing is also just observing the 5 visible planets rising times and relationships.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

This is old school wudang dragon gate, original mind/will, pre heaven or before birth and acquired

mind/will, post heaven, or after birth mind / will.

 

I agree with what you are saying in your other post just giving a reason why humanity can be controlled. the two operating modes of Shen or spirit. One is free and one is a captive in its own body.

[Everything]

34 minutes ago, Wu Ming Jen said:

This is old school wudang dragon gate, original mind/will, pre heaven or before birth and acquired

mind/will, post heaven, or after birth mind / will.

 

I agree with what you are saying in your other post just giving a reason why humanity can be controlled. the two operating modes of Shen or spirit. One is free and one is a captive in its own body.

You are not captive in your own body, your body exists within your greater non-physical consciousness, of all that you truely are, your physical consciousness is small extension of your greater non-physical consciousness. Only a small part of your greater non-physical consciousness is focused here on the leading edge of creation, through the lense of your physical body. For the purpose of your evermore greater being and becoming, the expansion of creation, the moreness of all that is.

The greater part of all that you are still remains in that non-physical consciousness, and it literally becomes the energetic full blown realisation of all that you want to be do or have, and beams it out to you 24/7.

Otherwise you woulden't feel any emotion at all. 

So when you perceive yourself as captive, you don't feel so good, because you have become more than what you currently perceive yourself to be. The true captivity, is that your full blown realisation of all that you truely are being and becoming evermore, right here and now, will be allowed by you. That is a fact. We will all do it. Most people will wait untill they die, before they allow themselves to come back into full realisation of all that they have truely become. 

But that doesn't mean that you cannot allow yourself ro release resistance, before you die, to all of your greater being of all that you have truely become, while still remaining alife. That is the entire point. 

To allow your true nature to come forth in a more fully realised fashion by you. And you simply do that, by releasing resistant thought, or achieving an energetic thought pattern of lesser resistance, ongoingly untill you meet up with the thoughts your own inner being, or soul, or non-physical greater consciousness has about you and your entire life, whatever it is, always right here and now. And you are inseperable from it. 

 

Even in the most pinched off state of being, of absolute bondage, you feel the negative emotion, of despair or fear or powerlessness, whatever you call it, it simply means you are flowing your very own greater being and becoming, right here and now, through energetic thought patterns which are in contradiction with themselves. Such as the idea "I am a captive in my own body." And when you do this, you feel negative emotion, because these thoughts are not in alignment with your full true nature of all that it is that you truely are, and so they are simply a flawed perspective of your own true being and ever becoming. 

So there are two subjects here. Your freedom, which is a given and your body, which is intertwined and inseperable from your greater non-physical being and ever becoming.

So saying you are captive, in both senses of the word, is incorrect. For the only true captivity that we all face, is that of our own unavoidable freedom, evermore, to be, do or have anything we can possibly want. And as you already said, we don't need to die in order to allow that to already simply be true for ourselves.

By allowing our greater nature to simply be more fully realised by us, always right here and now. By reaching for a perspective of our life, that feels better ongoingly, that indicate your having achieved a perspective of lesser resistance to all that you truely are being and becoming evermore. 

 

And then life is simply fun! And unfolds effortlessly along the path of least resistance evermore. Effortlessly and naturally. No matter who you are, or what you are, or when you are. 

 

And meditation is a helpful tool, to release resistant thought, by simply releasing all thought, so that you can have more effortlessly allowed realisation of the perspective of your true being and ever becoming evermore, always right here and now, that is the only place and moment in all of existance evermore, in all of your true being and ever becoming, evermore. 

[Everything]

4 hours ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

Consult medical news items, and degenerative disease statistics.

 

Then look at the results of Agriculture on human structure by looking at archaeology.

 

Look at fertility stats right now.

 

Look at mental illness stats right now.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

Oh god we're all doomed! How awful! If only it were so that well-being dominated the entire universe! If only our planet revolved in perfect orbit around the sun! Oh if only! But, I'm pretty sure, the sun's not gonna come up tomorrow. Because vonkrankenhaus will have forgotten to raise it. 

 

Ah well, I'll just open my curtains, I guess it's not so bad to be a fully realised being, that knows how blessed they are and how free. And how capable of achieving whatever it is they so desire. As I know all of us are worthy to infinity and eternity. And so blessed, and so cared for. And so secure, in the power of all that it is that we truely are being and becoming evermore. 

 

But unfortunately we must say goodbye to vonkrankenhaus, because he's degenerating himself... It's so unfortunate. He watched a spooky news channel and he's now degenerating himself. Ah well... He's with his soul now. 

 

So let me rephrase my question for you, WHAT THE ACTUAL FK HAS THIS GOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHO YOU TRUELY ARE? 

 

So you are free now, free from all this bagage you've been carrying around, that doesn't even belong to you. So you're a believe thief. You steal the believes of other people. And make them your own. And so what do you ACTUALLY wanna do with your freedom? Appart from all of this irrelevant bagage. 

 

Because you are here right here and right now! And your soul is also right here and right now! And do you really think that if you didn't want to be here, that you would be here? 

Edited July 6, 2019 by Everything

[vonkrankenhaus]

1 hour ago, Everything said:

Because you are here right here and right now!

 

I am looking at the truth and reality of life.

 

The things I pointed out are true.

 

Regardless of your intentions or perceived "experience".

 

This isn't about who is doomed or believed it or any of that. That is ideas of weak people.

 

I am merely write about facts. No emotion is written. No additions.

 

Facts are the Tao. Reality. They don't "wash off". To try is to admit ignorance or "lie".

 

Facing Reality is beginning of Cultivation, and End of Cultivation, and Middle.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[EmeraldHead]

6 hours ago, Wu Ming Jen said:

1)The post heaven mind will is easily divided and very easy to control.

 

2) When the pre heaven mind will takes its rightful place as commander the dust of this world has nothing to stick to.

The first is simly not smart, imperfect creation. But it's strength is a matter of concentration/chi circulation.

 

The second I disagree. The layer above it is the commander...or king, to quote sutras.

If punch you and you bleed, pre-jing circulates so the dust of this world sticks to it. 

[Wu Ming Jen]

9 hours ago, EmeraldHead said:

The first is simly not smart, imperfect creation. But it's strength is a matter of concentration/chi circulation.

 

The second I disagree. The layer above it is the commander...or king, to quote sutras.

If punch you and you bleed, pre-jing circulates so the dust of this world sticks to it. 

What are you punching and making bleed are you striking at impermanence? striking at something that can not be drowned or burned alive there is simply nothing to be hit.

 

Cultivation is to change body to excellent function and to change mode of thinking to pre heaven or natural state of mind in balance and harmony with all things.

[Wu Ming Jen]

11 hours ago, Everything said:

You are not captive in your own body, your body exists within your greater non-physical consciousness, of all that you truely are, your physical consciousness is small extension of your greater non-physical consciousness. re. 

This is the point I am making. We as humanity are not captive we are being programed from birth to use a mode of mind and thinking that allows itself to be controlled in others interest. It is not complicated.

[EmeraldHead]

1 hour ago, Wu Ming Jen said:

What are you punching and making bleed are you striking at impermanence? striking at something that can not be drowned or burned alive there is simply nothing to be hit.

 

Cultivation is to change body to excellent function and to change mode of thinking to pre heaven or natural state of mind in balance and harmony with all things.

Preheaven is still bodily. There is a 3rd level after yuan shen. The real you. 

 

I didn't mean to offend with that example, I didn't realise :). I'm saying prejing is much like normal chi. Bodily activity circulates it. It is an elixir. Whereas yuan shen is not so much affected but it gets stuck in it. The one above if youre rooted you could be tortured and not be deranged by the pain. That is like preshen transmits and receives data form one point. Whereas the frams of info in the real mind, above it, can transmit and receive from any position thus braking free of impediments/limitations. But yuan shen is like its reflection in the mirror. It has impediments...or rather impediments of the highest degree. 

 

Yes, changing mode of thinking is huge, gut bacteria big too, has to do with it because they are individuals. Its like why did tao create universe. This is hardcore  

Edited July 6, 2019 by EmeraldHead