OldDog Posted July 15, 2019 @vonkrankenhaus Sorry, man. I am not without some taiji training. But what you say does not match with my experience. But then, everyone receives the instruction differently. Just sharing my impressions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted July 15, 2019 1 minute ago, OldDog said: Sorry, man. I am not without some taiji training I don't mean TaiJiChuan. I mean Taji Philosophy. If cannot tell the difference, then yes, what I am writing is not in your experience. But it is basic thinking in Taoism - WuJi/TaiJi, YinYang, Wu Xing, Bagua, I Ching - all workings of TaiJi philosophy. You can Google Zhou Dunyi and see TaiJiTu, etc, to verify. And NeJing Su Wen also has informations about YinYang and Wu Xing applications. -VonKrankenhaus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted July 15, 2019 TaiJi Diagram of Zhou Dunyi: This shows WuJi, TaiJi, YinYang, Wu Xing, etc. Not in experience - don't understand? -VonKrankenhaus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted July 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, OldDog said: everyone receives the instruction differently. "The" instruction? TaiJi never changed. YinYang never changed. Qi never changed. Wu Xing still same for hundreds and hundreds of years, etc. -VonKrankenhaus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldDog Posted July 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, vonkrankenhaus said: I don't mean TaiJiChuan. I mean Taji Philosophy. Well, there's another point where we differ. My martial experience began 40 years ago and included a pretty fair amount of Daoist philosophical and cosmological training that included all the things you mention and Yijing. So, to me it's all part of a continuum. My Taijichuan training was deeply rooted in these concepts as well. So, I am not without some understanding. It just does not match up with yours. Noting wrong with that. Like I said, everyone receives the teaching differently. Happy trails! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vonkrankenhaus Posted July 15, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, OldDog said: It just does not match up with yours I'm interested to know how it differs. What "variations" do you see regarding YinYang, for example? And what is the source of the Movement in Wu Xing to you? What do you see as the source of the Movements in the Lo Shu? And who is teaching YinYang and Wu Xing differently from, for example, the NeiJing, or the diagram of Zhou? -VonKrankenhaus Edited July 15, 2019 by vonkrankenhaus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted July 29, 2019 @Harmen The video placed emphasis on the lower trigram's movements since that trigram best represents the questioner. What about the upper trigram? What representation would movement in the upper trigram best represent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lost in Translation Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lost in Translation said: @Harmen The video placed emphasis on the lower trigram's movements since that trigram best represents the questioner. What about the upper trigram? What representation would movement in the upper trigram best represent? I rewatched the video and I think I found the answer. Just after minute 19 you mention the upper trigram refers to the "surrounding environment or other parties." Is this a fair assessment? Edited July 30, 2019 by Lost in Translation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmen Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Lost in Translation said: I rewatched the video and I think I found the answer. Just after minute 19 you mention the upper trigram refers to the "surrounding environment or other parties." Is this a fair assessment? Yes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
