Lois Posted August 22, 2019 One well-known Israeli figure stated on Russian television that the basic law of America is "everything can be sold and everything can be bought." It's true ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted August 22, 2019 I'm American, of Norwegian descent. In my experience, humans own nothing but their presence and attention. This cannot be purchased, cajoled, bought or sold, but it may be offered... shared, given. It is the only thing of real value I have ever encountered. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wstein Posted August 22, 2019 doubtfully: love, integrity, numbers, infinity, common sense, self respect, knowing 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lois Posted August 22, 2019 5 hours ago, silent thunder said: I'm American, of Norwegian descent. In my experience, humans own nothing but their presence and attention. This cannot be purchased, cajoled, bought or sold, but it may be offered... shared, given. It is the only thing of real value I have ever encountered. This person further says that the United States bought Poland, Hungary, the Baltic states, Ukraine, and Georgia. How can you refute this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Lois said: One well-known Israeli figure stated on Russian television that the basic law of America is "everything can be sold and everything can be bought." It's true ? If that is true, then by the same reason , Australia's government seems to think it can buy and sell everything from/to China. China 'ownes' our most northerly port In October 2015, the Chinese-owned Landbridge Group won the bid for a ..... 99-year lease for A$506 million.... Shandong Landbridge Group is a privately-held company with headquarters in the city of Rizhao, Shandong Province, China, which is owned by Ye Cheng, a billionaire with close ties to the Chinese government and the Communist Party of China . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Darwin ( ' Landbridge ' They must be planning to make a lot more islands' . ) Revealed: The Australian airport owned by CHINA - and a secretive firm paid just $1 for a 100-YEAR lease on the land https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5213765/China-owns-Australian-airport-paying-1-lease.html Now thats the most northerly port and a remote outback NW airport . Just recently our 'American friends' where here asking about putting a missile base on our north coast . Now, I wonder what they would be aimed at ? 'We' declined. Cause we dont need a base to launch them ..... we dont even need a missile , we could just wheel the warheads over from the docks on a trolley into Chinese territory at Port Darwin and set them off manually Edited August 22, 2019 by Nungali Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted August 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Lois said: This person further says that the United States bought Poland, Hungary, the Baltic states, Ukraine, and Georgia. How can you refute this? I don't. United States, Poland, Hungary, Baltic states, Ukraine, Georgia are words, ideas, not things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted August 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Lois said: This person further says that the United States bought Poland, Hungary, the Baltic states, Ukraine, and Georgia. How can you refute this? Yes, I'd refute it. the U.S doesn't own them or have a huge influence on there government. I don't take what I see on TV, particularly Russian TV as being particularly accurate. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted August 22, 2019 Well, apparently Russian TV only has two channels ; Ch 1 is the approved government channel that everyone is supposed to watch . Ch 2 is a KGB officer sitting at a desk saying " Turn back to channel 1 ! " 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted August 23, 2019 *In Russia; You don't watch the TV TV watches You. <**GLOW> 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lois Posted September 14, 2019 On 22.08.2019 at 1:16 PM, silent thunder said: I don't. United States, Poland, Hungary, Baltic states, Ukraine, Georgia are words, ideas, not things. Why are words so expensive? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted September 14, 2019 Because ..... international ...... word ....... shortage . 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted September 14, 2019 Random thoughts. Words are expensive.. especially vowels. loose lips, sink ships but are good for kissing. Everything has its price Except Greenland, it can't be bought or sold. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted September 14, 2019 psst. hey mister... can you spare an opinon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lois Posted September 15, 2019 15 hours ago, silent thunder said: psst. hey mister... can you spare an opinon? About what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Lois said: About what? na, not questions mate... opinion man... opinion can ya spare one? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lois Posted September 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, silent thunder said: na, not questions mate... opinion man... opinion can ya spare one? Speak directly. Why these rhetorical questions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted September 15, 2019 Typo . He is making soup . here ya go ; Every onion can be sold and every onion can be bought . For an opinion on that see https://www.theonion.com/ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted September 15, 2019 23 hours ago, silent thunder said: psst. hey mister... can you spare an opinon? Lousy bum ! Get a job ! ..... and form your own opinion ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantalor Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) Just a random thought on that one, basically you cannot buy anything, the only thing you buy is the justification in your mind and from your peers that it is ok what you do. Even the Land you own is practically not yours, since only the government says its yours, in case of a revolt etc. they could very well change their stance and it would not be "yours" anymore. Besides there is one simple thruth, and that is, that land cannot be owned by anyone, as it was there before you came and still will be there when you are already dead. The same goes for matter and most of anything else. Or how did one Philosoph say it: "The rules are made for the ones that are to little/poor to break them without consequences." So basically money can buy you everything, but without the backing to actually achieve it, it would be for naught Edited September 24, 2019 by Phantalor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantalor Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) On 22.8.2019 at 3:17 AM, Lois said: One well-known Israeli figure stated on Russian television that the basic law of America is "everything can be sold and everything can be bought." It's true ? Well going by this, that is not entirely right but also not entirely wrong. This is the mentality of some big shot Americans. And in this point it is true, because who would be insane enough to deny American Government or big shots plans? ... They have Weapons, and people that believe in them, its like religious fanatics, you deny them and they come to you to get what they want. So the most reasonable solution is, give it to them, and get something in return, insteat of getting them to fetch it with force. Meaning: As long as you have the means to force something that statement is true Edited September 24, 2019 by Phantalor 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted September 25, 2019 On 8/21/2019 at 9:24 PM, silent thunder said: I'm American, of Norwegian descent. In my experience, humans own nothing but their presence and attention. This cannot be purchased, cajoled, bought or sold, but it may be offered... shared, given. It is the only thing of real value I have ever encountered. I’ll respectfully suggest that attention is bought, sold, and cajoled daily in America. It is the lifeblood of advertisement and social media, two things that occupy an enormous portion of American attention. As for presence, there is little of that among most Americans, it is occupied with the three poisons most of the time. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lois Posted November 9, 2019 On 25.09.2019 at 5:20 PM, steve said: I’ll respectfully suggest that attention is bought, sold, and cajoled daily in America. It is the lifeblood of advertisement and social media, two things that occupy an enormous portion of American attention. As for presence, there is little of that among most Americans, it is occupied with the three poisons most of the time. What are the three poisons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted November 9, 2019 56 minutes ago, Lois said: What are the three poisons? Anger, attachment, and ignorance (not knowing one’s true self) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moment Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) On 8/21/2019 at 6:17 PM, Lois said: One well-known Israeli figure stated on Russian television that the basic law of America is "everything can be sold and everything can be bought." It's true ? More true than I would like it to be. But, there are very good people that believe in honor and service. We should surround ourselves with those type of people. We may not be as rich but, honor has its' benefits.. Edited November 10, 2019 by moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moment Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) On 9/24/2019 at 3:23 AM, Phantalor said: Well going by this, that is not entirely right but also not entirely wrong. This is the mentality of some big shot Americans. And in this point it is true, because who would be insane enough to deny American Government or big shots plans? ... They have Weapons, and people that believe in them, its like religious fanatics, you deny them and they come to you to get what they want. So the most reasonable solution is, give it to them, and get something in return, insteat of getting them to fetch it with force. Meaning: As long as you have the means to force something that statement is true We need to modify those type of "bigshots" here in the USA. It will be an uphill battle! I have hope. Edited November 10, 2019 by moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites