The Torus and the YIN/YANG

[voidisyinyang]

On 10/14/2019 at 9:11 AM, Yang said:

 Its a 5 dimensional version of the taiji. Its has all the colors including CLEAR.

 

what you want is the Klein Bottle:

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It's a torus that, in three dimensions, flattens and passes through itself on one side.

So just as with the Dao, you inherently can not see a Klein Bottle in 3 dimensions - so it is the 4th dimension of space as a torus.

It's also what the full lotus energy does in meditation.

So that is the Torus version of the Klein Bottle.

3D pinched torus / 4D Möbius tube

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle

 

So a black hole is also a klein bottle.

 

Psychologist Steven M. Rosen has studied this as well.

https://philarchive.org/archive/ROSQGA-2v5

 

Quantum Gravity and Taoist Cosmology - PhilArchive

 

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Edited October 16, 2019 by voidisyinyang

[vonkrankenhaus]

3 hours ago, Michael Sternbach said:

Greater Yang

Lesser Yang

Greater Yin

Lesser Yin

 

These four poles are also what the Yijing is based on.

 

TaiJi is two poles.

 

There is a YinYang of these, which you show.

 

This is showing further also the YinYang of the 4 Emblems too - the Bagua:

 

 

YiJing is basically derived from the YinYang of those to produce the 64 Hexagrams.

 

Polarity itself is function the same through all the "divisions" (polarities).

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[vonkrankenhaus]

3 hours ago, Yang said:

at 0x0=0 there is no polarity or anything . Nothing exists. 

at 1 , we have positive energy =1

at 2 we have polarity of +/- =2

at 3 we have 3 sets of +/-  =6

 

This is the problem.

 

At 1 you have Polarity, not 2.

 

This is the problem from assuming numbers and things are the same.

 

Any "One" thing has and exhibits polarity already.

 

Adding another thing to have "2" doesn't introduce "polarity". That already happened at "1".

 

It introduces "two things" that EACH have and exhibit their own polarities, their own Top/Bottom, Inside/Outside, etc.

 

Once you lose track of polarity and think that polarity means two physical things, then your "math" forward from there is bunk.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

Edited October 16, 2019 by vonkrankenhaus

[Yang]

6 hours ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

This is the problem.

 

At 1 you have Polarity, not 2.

 

This is the problem from assuming numbers and things are the same.

 

Any "One" thing has and exhibits polarity already.

 

Adding another thing to have "2" doesn't introduce "polarity". That already happened at "1".

 

It introduces "two things" that EACH have and exhibit their own polarities, their own Top/Bottom, Inside/Outside, etc.

 

Once you lose track of polarity and think that polarity means two physical things, then your "math" forward from there is bunk.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

 

thanks !!

 

 

 

 

 

[Michael Sternbach]

On 16.10.2019 at 7:21 PM, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

TaiJi is two poles.

 

There is a YinYang of these, which you show.

 

This is showing further also the YinYang of the 4 Emblems too - the Bagua:

 

 

YiJing is basically derived from the YinYang of those to produce the 64 Hexagrams.

 

Polarity itself is function the same through all the "divisions" (polarities).

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

 

You can actually see this as a progression: Two raised to the first, second, third, and sixth power.

Edited October 17, 2019 by Michael Sternbach
Spello corrected

[voidisyinyang]

24 minutes ago, Michael Sternbach said:

 

You can actually see this as a progression: Two raised to the first, second, third, and forth power.

Powers are symmetric logic that is Western. The yin-yang is noncommutative phase logic that is complementary and asymmetric resonance. So no - it's not logarithms nor inverse exponentials.

 

So here is the noncommutative time-frequency torus as another example from Fields Medal (harder to get than Nobel) mathematician Alain Connes.

So for each "zero point" there is already a yin-yang at the void!

You can not see that yin-yang that is hidden at each zero point.

Edited October 17, 2019 by voidisyinyang

[vonkrankenhaus]

36 minutes ago, Michael Sternbach said:

You can actually see this as a progression: Two raised to the first, second, third, and forth power.

 

But these are not "Numbers".

 

Yang is Movement. Yin is Stillness.

 

All movement and all growth is Yang.

 

If you do Number operations on real things and processes - you get the reason Quantum Physics was developed. Classical Mechanics forgot that the numbers used to depict the location and momentum of particles were not actually Numbers, but "Actions".

 

Try to divide two Numbers - no problem.

 

Try to divide Movement - Okay - Fast/Slow.

 

Try to divide opposite of Movement - Stillness - that way - No such Fast and Slow Stillness.

 

Movement and Stillness do not behave like Numbers.

 

Light and Dark do not behave like Numbers.

 

So Number Operations performed on these will not be or act like those done on Numbers.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Yang]

9 hours ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

This is the problem.

 

At 1 you have Polarity, not 2.

 

This is the problem from assuming numbers and things are the same.

 

Any "One" thing has and exhibits polarity already.

 

Adding another thing to have "2" doesn't introduce "polarity". That already happened at "1".

 

It introduces "two things" that EACH have and exhibit their own polarities, their own Top/Bottom, Inside/Outside, etc.

 

Once you lose track of polarity and think that polarity means two physical things, then your "math" forward from there is bunk.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

1 is single pole  all positive

2 is 2 poles  +/-

3 is 3 sets of 2 ,

4 is 12 sets of 2 

5 is 60 sets of 2's 

 

0 is  before 1 and is only the creator. He never began and he will never end. Only the poles he's created will end and only he can create them .

 

none of them can exist without each other . The sequence is exactly correct and easy for anyone to understand . 

 

Simple = + is easy to understand and very Positive 

complex = - hard to understand and very Neg 

 

If you've even seen Einstein's chalkboard you'll know what I mean . Its says nothing to everyone except himself. Very negative and foolish. 

 

how do you  like the crop formations ? 

time is not a dimension  

 

We can see remnants of time in all the 5 dimensions. 

1 hour 1 day 

60 seconds /60 minutes

12 hours of day and 12 hours of night

spaced 5 min apart 

3.6.9.12 spaced in sets of 3's

and the roman numerals that represent the torus V IV  VI  X IX XI XIV etc etc.

minute hand / second hand

 

we also have 2 sets of 12 on each side of our body .

 

can anyone spot them by tomorrow night at this time.  ?

Use the TAIJITU.

I use the white to black color spectrum and it works great .

 

It can be used to demonstrate unity and duality and both as a + or - spectrum.

 

+/- is a universal language and you'll find many references to it in crop formations. 

 

  It's not limited to the TAJITU . 

 

there is ONLY BIO and GEO and all bio moves towards BIO. Earth used to be all BIO and no GEO. Its not so today . ALL things GEO began as BIO

 

BIO+GEO-

 

 

[vonkrankenhaus]

17 minutes ago, Yang said:

1 is single pole  all positive

2 is 2 poles  +/-

 

These are incorrect.

 

One is a thing. 

 

There is no one manifested thing that is all Yin or all Yang.

 

That would be WuJi - No Polarity.

 

All "single" or "lone" things inherently exhibit polarity.

 

Even the first movement exhibits polarity and establishes polarity.

 

No need for "2" physical poles like objects to establish polarity. 

 

Any One object has and exhibits "poles" of polarity - sides, inside, outside, beginning, ending, etc.

 

You are using abstract numbers to try to do impossible stuff to real things and processes.

 

That's what Classical Mechanics did, so replaced by Quantum Mechanics about 100 yrs ago.

 

Your Numbers are Fictions preventing you from seeing Polarity and Movement as they really are.

 

The symmetrical diagrams and animations do not match real manifested objects and how polarity really works.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

Edited October 17, 2019 by vonkrankenhaus

[Yang]

1 hour ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

But these are not "Numbers".

 

Yang is Movement. Yin is Stillness.

 

All movement and all growth is Yang.

 

If you do Number operations on real things and processes - you get the reason Quantum Physics was developed. Classical Mechanics forgot that the numbers used to depict the location and momentum of particles were not actually Numbers, but "Actions".

 

Try to divide two Numbers - no problem.

 

Try to divide Movement - Okay - Fast/Slow.

 

Try to divide opposite of Movement - Stillness - that way - No such Fast and Slow Stillness.

 

Movement and Stillness do not behave like Numbers.

 

Light and Dark do not behave like Numbers.

 

So Number Operations performed on these will not be or act like those done on Numbers.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

in the white to black color torus . White is INSTANT not just fast and BLACK is stopped completely. Not just slow. The colors between the two poles which are also poles to each other determine speed

 

its :

instant 

blue  fast

green

red

yell'

magenta 

cyan slow

stopped

 

blue is fastest 

cyan is slowest 

 

You can use the TORUS color spectrum for every thing that exists because everything that exists are contained within them

 

You always use symmetry. The use of asymmetrical logic is confusing and neg.  

 

white is hot 

black is cold 

 

the colors between them and warm and cool 

 

We also see the blue sky and green plants with red lava , all in the same order and spectrum on earth .

 

Heaven is the positive pole to earth its negative ground

 

heaven is the 5th dimension

it leads to the 1st and 3rd

Hell is the 4th dimension and it leads to the 2nd and the 3rd.

 

 

its

1+  instant fast

5 +  upper vortex of earth 

3 +/-

4 - lower vortex of earth 

2 - dead stop

 

3 is always central 

 

What info do you have on the human body as it relates to the TAIJITU ?

 

Please use terms that are easy to understand. i'm still a student and no very advanced yet .

 

I use numbers to communicate but I use them with other references too 

 

Number 1 means unity +

Number 2 means duality  -

 

The opposite of flat is a 360 degree ball 

 

the opposite of straight is curved

 

Flat is a positive absolute

360 ball is a negative absolute 

you can't get flatter than flat and there is no such thing as 361 degrees

 

can you believe all the flat earth and globe earth conflicts ?

Earth is rotations and round or earth is fixed and flat. 

 

They argue over two pole of the same item and don't realize it at all. Its worthy of a bag of popcorn and a great way to drift off to sleep some night reading the comments.  

 

:  )

thanks for reading !!!

[Yang]

4 minutes ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

These are incorrect.

 

One is a thing. 

 

There is no one manifested thing that is all Yin or all Yang.

 

That would be WuJi - No Polarity.

 

All "single" or "lone" things inherently exhibit polarity.

 

Even the first movement exhibits polarity and establishes polarity.

 

No need for "2" physical poles like objects to establish polarity. 

 

Any One object has and exhibits "poles" of polarity - sides, inside, outside, beginning, ending, etc.

 

You are using abstract numbers to try to do impossible stuff to real things and processes.

 

That's what Classical Mechanics did, so replaced by Quantum Mechanics about 100 yrs ago.

 

Your Numbers are Fictions preventing you from seeing Polarity and Movement as they really are.

 

The symmetrical diagrams and animations do not match real manifested objects and how polarity really works.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

I feel like we are at a country western dance party doing the hokey pokey , going round and round in circles. 

 

I know what you mean. It's not a big deal .  I have crop formations that use the same numbers, sequence and dimensions I use.  +/- is universal language , Did you see them   ? 

 

who is making the crop formations and how ?

 

do they originate from inner earth or outer space  ?

 

is there a single positive source for everything and every one  ? where is it ? in outer space or inner earth  ? 

 

how many positive poles are there in life an how many negative poles are the in life ?

 

which is plural and which is singular ?

 

positive or negative or both  ? 

[Yang]

1 is not a thing unless you consider positive energy a thing. 

2 is a thing and it comes from 1, a no thing called positive energy .  

1 comes from the creator .

 

take a clear piece of plastic. Call it positive energy . We can't smell taste feel hear or see it 

 

get a sharpy and put dots on the plastic . Thats matter. The clear plasitc is positve energy 

 

clear positive energy is everywhere

negative matter is ANYWHERE and never everywhere.

 

-matter comes from energy +

-time comes from space +

[vonkrankenhaus]

12 hours ago, Yang said:

1 is not a thing unless you consider positive energy a thing. 

 

Nothing, "No Thing" means no "1" exists.

 

If there is "1" there is a Thing.

 

If there is a Thing, that One single Thing produces, has, and exhibits polarity.

 

The very first Movement - even a "quantum fluctuation" is a Thing.

 

"Positive energy" is a Thing, and "energy" requires Polarity.

 

Energy is movement between the poles of any polarity.

 

No Polarity = No Movement.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Yang]

2 hours ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

Nothing, "No Thing" means no "1" exists.

 

If there is "1" there is a Thing.

 

If there is a Thing, that One single Thing produces, has, and exhibits polarity.

 

The very first Movement - even a "quantum fluctuation" is a Thing.

 

"Positive energy" is a Thing, and "energy" requires Polarity.

 

Energy is movement between the poles of any polarity.

 

No Polarity = No Movement.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

positive energy has instant fast movement. we can't see it move because it's moving too fast to see.         its " instant"  fast.

 

Negative solidity has no movement because its stopped. . 

 

positive energy is not a "thing". Negative matter is a thing. 

 

Don't let the word  "energy  " throw you off.  We cannot see feel taste smell or hear it . We can only see hear taste smell and taste " things" 

 

the creator at 0 creates positive energy and it goes towards negative matter. 

 

simple  :  )

 

 

white = instant

positive colors = fast movement 

center of polarity ------------------

negative colors = slow movements

black = stopped. 

[vonkrankenhaus]

1 hour ago, Yang said:

positive energy has instant fast movement

 

Movement is a thing. Energy is a thing.

 

Both Movement and Energy can be measured. 

 

All things exhibit Polarity.

 

There is no such thing as "fast" or "slow" Nothing.

 

If it is Fast or Slow - it is a Thing.

 

1 hour ago, Yang said:

positive energy is not a "thing".

 

Positive and Negative, or Polarity in general, means some Thing is there to discern.

 

No Polarity = No Things.

 

No Polarity = No Energy.

 

No Polarity = No Movement.

 

No Polarity in Chinese is "WuJi" - "Emptiness" or "Nothing".

 

Supreme (obvious) Polarity in Chinese is "TaiJi".

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Yang]

5 minutes ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

Movement is a thing. Energy is a thing.

 

Both Movement and Energy can be measured. 

 

All things exhibit Polarity.

 

There is no such thing as "fast" or "slow" Nothing.

 

If it is Fast or Slow - it is a Thing.

 

 

Positive and Negative, or Polarity in general, means some Thing is there to discern.

 

No Polarity = No Things.

 

No Polarity = No Energy.

 

No Polarity = No Movement.

 

No Polarity in Chinese is "WuJi" - "Emptiness" or "Nothing".

 

Supreme (obvious) Polarity in Chinese is "TaiJi".

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

don't let the word  "energy  " throw you off. 

good luck !!!! you'll get it , keep trying.

 

"instant" motion is not a thing. "Positive" is not a thing. remove the word "energy" from positive energy , and replace "fast" for the word "instant". Re read my comments again because we keep repeating the same things over and over . Let's move on . You're stuck . Let it go and move forward to some of the other comments about the TORUS/TAIJITU. 

 

How do you like my crop formation images  ?

 

return to my previous comments for reference.

[vonkrankenhaus]

1 hour ago, Yang said:

"instant" motion is not a thing

 

Yes, it is. Movement is a Thing.

 

"Instant" is just an adjective reference to that Thing.

 

If you mean Instant like "Infinite" and "everywhere at once", then there is no Movement. 

 

Must be a Here and There or other Polarity for there to be Movement.

 

The Movement itself will establish Stasis - a Polarity.

 

In a state of true Emptiness or "Nothing", then there are no Polarities. Everything Same. No extent, no distinction.

 

 

1 hour ago, Yang said:

remove the word "energy" from positive energy , and replace "fast" for the word "instant".

 

YOU wrote: "positive energy is not a "thing".

 

It is. Energy is Movement. 

 

Even "Positive" is a distinction of Things.

"Positive" "alone" means "Negative" exists, and that is Polarity.

 

Without a reference there is no meaning to "Positive" and no way to discern it. 

 

If there IS a reference, then there is Polarity. 

 

Means "Something" is there. 

 

No Polarity = Emptiness - "WuJi" - No Thing.

 

But the way you are originally using it "positive" would be an adjective reference to "Energy".

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[vonkrankenhaus]

1 hour ago, Yang said:

about the TORUS/TAIJITU.

 

Abstract Number-Based Symmetric Geometric figures do not represent accurately the TaiJi.

 

Yang is Movement, Yin is Stillness.

 

The "divisions of YinYang" that you see are asymmetrical. 

 

The TaiJiTu is not showing symmetrical subject matter. It is a stylized figure.

 

Fire and Water are non-commutative.

 

Your abstract Numbers ARE - 2*3 = 3*2.

 

Things and Processes are Actions, not Numbers. 

 

Planck's constant is a clunky admission of the asymmetry of YinYang.

 

You must resort to subspace geometry and funky diagrams like the Alain Connes diagram that was posted earlier.

 

You won't find the number dimensions you calculate. They aren't real.

 

The real ones bend all your numbers into pretzels, and that is what people are doing now who are thinking - building better and more stylish pretzels.

 

Me - I am okay with just One Good Bao, as always.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Yang]

50 minutes ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

Abstract Number-Based Symmetric Geometric figures do not represent accurately the TaiJi.

 

Yang is Movement, Yin is Stillness.

 

The "divisions of YinYang" that you see are asymmetrical. 

 

The TaiJiTu is not showing symmetrical subject matter. It is a stylized figure.

 

Fire and Water are non-commutative.

 

Your abstract Numbers ARE - 2*3 = 3*2.

 

Things and Processes are Actions, not Numbers. 

 

Planck's constant is a clunky admission of the asymmetry of YinYang.

 

You must resort to subspace geometry and funky diagrams like the Alain Connes diagram that was posted earlier.

 

You won't find the number dimensions you calculate. They aren't real.

 

The real ones bend all your numbers into pretzels, and that is what people are doing now who are thinking - building better and more stylish pretzels.

 

Me - I am okay with just One Good Bao, as always.

 

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

   none of this makes any sense to me . Sorry we are not on the same  LEVEL.

 

  You cant fight a person who is unwilling to fight. I don't know what plaunck or alain connes is or bending pretzels.

   

    I use the 8 color spectrum TORUS. It's the same as the TAIJITU .That's the only chart I use, the 8 color spectrum chart . I use crop formations as a visual representation.

 

   Its like you reach deep into trash can, pull out  words like planck, connes, bent pretzels and throw it at   me . I dont know anything about these . Its the same as saying &%$&$& and @#$#@$#@$ or &()&)*&). its nonsense .  See for yourself . :   ) 

 

  Im presenting simple logic basic polarity with +/- attributes. It's all MY OWN WORK . 

 

 It seems like you are arguing with yourself and the vibration is very hateful , and negative. 

 

 Your hostility is not my problem. If you want to be peaceful and logical , then we can continue .

 

go back and read your comments and examine the vibration of each one . Take deep breath, relax , get some sleep. 

 

Good luck !!!!!!   :   )

[vonkrankenhaus]

1 hour ago, Yang said:

none of this makes any sense to me

 

Obviously, that is a problem.

 

I know you just told me to go back and re-read my own comments, but perhaps if YOU do that and come back with literally the first item I wrote that you didn't understand, and then any others - perhaps I can clarify.

 

My comments are also my replies to what you have written, my "response" to them - so if any are not clear to you or confusing, then you wouldn't know what I wrote to continue, and you would end up posting same thing again - and my response is going to be the same or similar.

 

So, obviously - point by point, starting with first statement that wasn't clear - might help.

 

I know what I am writing is different from your mindset, but I would like to make it clear why and how, especially to make this part of Taoist thinking clear and describe how it differs from Western Number and Logic.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

[Yang]

if we play a recording of a video clip in normal speed , we can observe its content as if it were happening in real time.

 

If we play the recording faster than normal , it takes less time to see its entirety .

if we play the recording slower than normal, it takes more time to see its entirety.

 

if we play the video at super fast instant speed  so that its over before we can see it,  it becomes impossible to get any content from it 

If we stop the video as soon as it starts , it's also impossible to get any content from it .  

 

The video is all there but of no use at instant or stopped speeds. 

 

It's only when it has motion other than instant or stopped . 

 

white is instant fast and no use

blue = fast

green

red

normal

yellow

magenta

cyan = slow 

black is dead stop and no use

 

All colors come from white ( cause ) outwards

All colors go to black ( effect ) inwards

 

Both colors white and black contain all colors between them and yet they are opposed to each other . The opposite of white is black 

 

white reflects all colors out

black absorbs all colors in

 

   The TORUS color spectrum black and white centers represent the Taiji's yin yang symbols white and black circles. 

 

    The 3 positive colors rotate clockwise and the three negative colors rotate CCW, hence the name. "Color TORUS". A torus rotates in a CW and a CCW direction at the same time. 

 

White is instant fast and black is stopped.

 

Very very simple , thanks for reading !!!

[Yang]

22 minutes ago, vonkrankenhaus said:

 

Obviously, that is a problem.

 

I know you just told me to go back and re-read my own comments, but perhaps if YOU do that and come back with literally the first item I wrote that you didn't understand, and then any others - perhaps I can clarify.

 

My comments are also my replies to what you have written, my "response" to them - so if any are not clear to you or confusing, then you wouldn't know what I wrote to continue, and you would end up posting same thing again - and my response is going to be the same or similar.

 

So, obviously - point by point, starting with first statement that wasn't clear - might help.

 

I know what I am writing is different from your mindset, but I would like to make it clear why and how, especially to make this part of Taoist thinking clear and describe how it differs from Western Number and Logic.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus

 

have you tried this yet  ?

 

Breath ( in ) deep breath all the way and think Negative thoughts

Breath ( out ) all the way and think positive thoughts.

 

Do this for 1 hour every day or night 

Play this video while you do the meditation. 

 

No need for drugs or alcohol. These things will harm your mind and body 

 

Meditation will heal your mind and body 

 

SImple  :  ) 

 

good luck !!!!

Edited October 18, 2019 by Yang
added video

[Yang]

one more thing about the above TAIJI meditation . 

 

You should alternate in and out positive thoughts and negative thoughts. 

 

In other words on one day you breath in and have neg thoughts then breath out and have positive thoughts

 

Next day ( or night ) 

 

You should switch to breath in and have positive thoughts, 

then 

Breath out and have negative thoughts,

 

There is another meditation I like to prescribe .

 

Go to your local grocery store . Walk very slowly up one isle and down the next isle. 

Look straight ahead and never look up down left or right . ALWAYS STRAIGHT ahead. 

 

One foot in front of the other foot very slowly. Not side by side like normal . Left foot then right foot always in front of and behind each other. People will stare and some will laugh at you . It will generate negative sensations and will feel uncomfortable at first. Maybe they will think you are crazy . That's ok because you know you are not . KEEP going .

 

If you want to push a shopping cart with a few items in the cart , that's ok too.   

 

Do it every day until you have no negative sensations from the time you begin to the time you finish . Walk up and down each isle every time. Don't skip any and don't stop until all islands in the store are walked through . 

 

Whatever thoughts arise while you do this should be dismissed . No thought are needed. Just walk slowly and clear all thoughts. If you have a thought,  clear it away . 

 

No thoughts positive or negative are allowed .

 

After many days, you will have the ability to clear any thought any time day or night no matter where you are or who you are with . There will be no polarity in any way . No good no bad no hate no happy , nothing but the observation of your surrounding area.

 

I'm going to post an exercise system you can use to "see" and feel though the hologram that we all consider to be a single item called reality . . 

 

Check back soon !!!

 

 

[Nintendao]

Non-negative holographic grocery store walking sounds pretty neat. As for the stylized TAIJI diagram, may I suggest that we go back to calling it a YINYANG symbol or similar for this discussion, to differentiate such uses other than the more specific traditional concepts which VonKrankenhaus has diligently elucidated.

 

According to an entry on Definitions.net:

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Taijitu is a term which refers to a Chinese symbol for the concept of yin and yang. It is the universal symbol of the religion known as Taoism and is also often used by non-Taoists to represent the concept of opposites existing in harmony. The taijitu consists of a rotated pattern inside a circle. One common pattern has an S-shaped line that divides the circle into two equal parts of different colors. The pattern may have one or more large dots. The classic Daoist taijitu, for example, is black and white with a black dot upon the white background, and a white dot upon the black background. Patterns similar to the taijitu also form part of Celtic, Etruscan, Roman and much earlier Cucuteni-Trypillian culture iconography, where they are loosely referred to as yin yang symbols by modern scholars; however no relationship between these and the Chinese symbol has been established.

 

[vonkrankenhaus]

2 hours ago, Yang said:

It's only when it has motion other than instant or stopped . 

 

Motion that is instantly everywhere is not motion.

 

It would be Stasis.

 

"Stopped" Motion is not Motion.

 

And a Movement is a Thing.

 

All things have and exhibit Polarity.

 

No need to go ad-hominem for not understanding that.

 

 

 

 

-VonKrankenhaus