voidisyinyang Posted October 23, 2019 Just now, Nungali said: Not one single person has denied what you claim . the ONLY denial in this thread is coming from YOU but of course, you HAVE TO refuse to see that , dont you . Its becasue you have settled on a 'justification position' and now you cannot move from it . and I KNOW you ! You will maintain it, now matter how stupid or ignorant it makes you appear . carry on . yeah you just keep saying stuff that is made up. You're a troll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted October 23, 2019 the level of disconnect... staggering. may you awaken in healing, contentment and love. peace. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said: This is supposed to be me again when you say "he" - I don't remember writing that. Sorry but you're posting a bunch of made up stuff again. Thats right, you do not remember writing this stuff . even when we cite and repost it , you say its made up You are a very bad liar and its soooooo obvious ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Nungali said: No one here is denying that there are perv cults and teachers ... we just are not going to let that , or your false claims, detract from the issue of your own sexual assault posing as nonwestern spirituality . And why target 'other males' ... do you just ignore what the women here have observed ? Thats telling ! Fir the record. I am am not, nor have I ever nor has anyone else denied that these things go on in 'non western spirituality' - you are running this false claim as a weak defence . It isnt working . Nope, its our thread now . We own you ! Well, aren't you fantastic then ! Oh, we know there is a difference all right . It just doesnt improve your position at all . Now you're just straight up lying! oops. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Just now, Nungali said: Thats right, you do not remember writing this stuff . even when we cite and repost it , you say its made up You are a very bad liar and its soooooo obvious ! No "this stuff" is not what I wrote! and you're 2nd sentence is a lie. And you are making accusations against me that are lies based on stuff that you make up! Pretty simple. Edited October 23, 2019 by voidisyinyang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 23, 2019 21 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said: So now you have slipped to verbal abuse. As I stated you make stuff up. Well, of course I am going to call you an idiot ... you idiot ! I will call anyone an idiot when they say people are making stuff up and then the very words you wrote are quoted , and then you STILL go on and on about how it was made up . That type of idiocy is plain seein to evryone ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said: you should "tm" that meme! Still a troll! this is MY thread! YOu're a troll! haha. Go away. Nope ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Edited October 23, 2019 by voidisyinyang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, silent thunder said: the level of disconnect... staggering. may you awaken in healing, contentment and love. peace. I told you ! I said the real Drew will soon be exposed . Actually, this is nothing . Wait till you see his next phase Its because his inner sanctum of ego is being attacked a big spiritual psuedo intellectual ego . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nungali said: Well, of course I am going to call you an idiot ... you idiot ! I will call anyone an idiot when they say people are making stuff up and then the very words you wrote are quoted , and then you STILL go on and on about how it was made up . That type of idiocy is plain seein to evryone ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, silent thunder said: the level of disconnect... staggering. may you awaken in healing, contentment and love. peace. yep - sitting in full lotus in public. It's my body. It's a sitting position. Is that a disconnect? haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Nungali said: I told you ! I said the real Drew will soon be exposed . Actually, this is nothing . Wait till you see his next phase Its because his inner sanctum of ego is being attacked a big spiritual psuedo intellectual ego . So basically you want to just keep feeding off my energy while I sit in full lotus? You need to keep making stuff up about me because you like my energy? Gotcha! It's getting kind of boring though. Go away troll. Edited October 23, 2019 by voidisyinyang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/17/2019 at 4:22 PM, Nungali said: You think that is creepy and surprising ? What about psychically molesting women in McDonalds then ? More cases of idiots claiming super powers ... that have really base agendas . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WHITEROOMENERGYMINE1 Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/22/2019 at 3:17 AM, voidisyinyang said: I didn't see your previous questions/comments to me. Thanks - I posted a long reply on my blog https://elixirfield.blogspot.com/2019/10/have-i-read-balance-and-harmony.html woah awesome Im gonna read it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said: Yep. that guy was a pedo . I even outed on of his kiddy molesting devotees . However , you listing all this perversion that goes under the guise of spirituality does not let YOU off the hook . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said: yep - sitting in full lotus in public. It's my body. It's a sitting position. Is that a disconnect? haha. of course not . Its about the stuff we DID say ... not this stuff we never said that you are trying to divert to . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Nungali said: of course not . Its about the stuff we DID say ... not this stuff we never said that you are trying to divert to . yeah when you first responded with your soft porn image in this thread I didn't reply because I have a personal position to not reply to your comments since I can read your energy and I know you have a low frequency intention perv-predator blockage. So that's why you're Ad-Dick-ed to this thread - trolling me while I sit in full lotus and you feeding off my third eye energy - in front of everyone to see! As for "not letting me off the hook" - as I already posted - I told qigong master Chunyi Lin what I "did" and he replied: Quote "It's great that you can give female's bliss but as long as you keep doing so then your qi will always be weak." Edited October 23, 2019 by voidisyinyang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted October 23, 2019 22 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said: yeah when you first responded with your soft porn image in this thread My soft porn image ???? You mean this ; OMG ! Does this image make you 'shoot semen up your spine ' ? Here is some more 'porn' for you then ; Spoiler 22 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said: I didn't reply because I have a personal position to not reply to your comments since I can read your energy and I know you have a low frequency intention perv-predator blockage. Ohhhhh I see now , that explains why you DO NOT RESPOND TO ANYTHING I WROTE . 22 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said: So that's why you're Ad-Dick-ed to this thread - trolling me while I sit in full lotus and you feeding off my third eye energy - in front of everyone to see! Errrmmmm ... if I where you I would NOT be using the " in front of everyone to see! " phrase . 22 minutes ago, voidisyinyang said: As for "not letting me off the hook" - as I already posted - I told qigong master Chunyi Lin what I "did" and he replied: I am not surprised he responded with ... and probably an " Urrrrk " and a 'Yeeeewww ! " as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted October 24, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Nungali said: I am not surprised he responded with ... and probably an " Urrrrk " and a 'Yeeeewww ! " as well. As I already explained Chunyi said he doesn't practice tantra since the frequency of energy taken in from the female is too low compared to the frequency of the energy he sends out from his third eye. So the Yi intention is based on the frequency of the light as the shen as the "carrier wave" of the energy. Edited October 24, 2019 by voidisyinyang Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sean Posted October 24, 2019 Me: Awwee yeah, made some tea, time to relax and catch up on the forum. Hmmm, what's this topic about here? Also Me (10 minutes later): 1 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earl Grey Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, sean said: Hmmm, what's this topic about here? “Lies! More damned lies! And statistics.” - Mark Twain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted October 24, 2019 I remember a recent thread where I warned of the dangers of celibacy combined with flawed internal practice... Lots of people chimed in, saying it’s not so bad, not that dangerous. What Drew is demonstrating is classic signs of at least two deviations. Caused by flawed practice and celibacy. The results are the ‘tainting of the innocence of the heart’ combined with delusions of the mind. It is not logical. You can’t ‘prove’ anything now. Arguing with Drew will not generate insight for him. When this sort of deviation is chronic (and I’ve seen the same stuff from Drew over the 15-20 years that I’ve been coming to the forum) then it’s pretty much set for life. An ‘intervention’ in an online forum will simply entrench his delusions and flare up one’s emotions. It’s pointless. It would take an extreme life event to snap one out of such a deeply ingrained state... And after that it’s decades of hard work to reverse the damage inside (and possibly lifetimes to reverse the damage caused to others). So maybe it would be worth keeping this thread on ‘speed-dial’ when talking about the pitfalls of incorrect practice... Mess around with these practices - and you too can be like Drew 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earl Grey Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, freeform said: ... Mess around with these practices - and you too can be like Drew “By the fruits ye shall be known.” I remember Drew had a sycophantic fanatic student whose username started with an A and ended up being banned for posting equally loony and incomprehensible messages here. So that’s proof there that what you’re saying is sadly correct. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted October 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Earl Grey said: I remember Drew had a sycophantic fanatic student whose username started with an A and ended up being banned for posting equally loony and incomprehensible messages here. So that’s proof there that what you’re saying is sadly correct. Too much Qi in the head often results first in the appearance of increased intelligence. Suddenly one's vocabulary grows, you start to obsessively consume books and knowledge... Memory, problem solving and creativity increase. When you talk to them (at this earlyish stage) they come across as extremely erudite and knowledgeable (with a manic sort of edge). Over time this grows into delusions of grandeur, sometimes paranoia and delusions of persecution, a sense of omnipotence and other 'egoic' and 'manic' tendencies. Tainting of the heart is an altogether sadder affair. The 'heat' of repressed sexual feelings starts to affect both the heart and the small intestine - particularly if you're doing practices that aim to 'bring qi up' or have 'orgasms up the spine' or 'raise the sexual energy up to the heart' - or sometimes even just praying to something 'up above' you while forcibly celibate. The heart and small intestine act as a Yin-Yang balance... The heart creates feelings of excitement or 'joy' (not the tranquil joy that you might feel looking at your loved ones - but the excited "omg I just won a car!!!!" type of joy)... Bring hot, sexually flavoured qi up to the heart regularly and you'll start to get addicted to the emotional rush. The small intestine is the cognitive counterpart of this system. It's more in charge of the 'direction' or 'source' of this joy... Over time the heat affects the small intestine part of the system and the source of joy becomes tainted by base drives... Depending on your acquired nature this manifests in different ways - often there's a theme of control and power - so getting joy out of the control of another being. Sometimes it's just pure cruelty - a joy in the suffering of others. Sometimes it's sexual - having some sexual power or control over another. Sometimes it's a focus on power through wealth... Couple an addiction to this excitement with a 'perversion' of the source/direction of excitement - and there you have a monster... This is certainly not exclusive to qigong deviation - it can happen as a result of all sorts of stuff - but qigong deviation is certainly one way! And I want to add that I don't think Drew is suffering from an extreme case of tainting of the heart. But if he focused less on his third eye and more on his heart, it could certainly go that way. Can you see some of these themes in disgraced 'gurus'? Priests? Public figures afforded with power in an 'external' sort of way? 5 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sean Posted October 24, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 4:04 AM, freeform said: I remember a recent thread where I warned of the dangers of celibacy combined with flawed internal practice... Lots of people chimed in, saying it’s not so bad, not that dangerous. What Drew is demonstrating is classic signs of at least two deviations. Caused by flawed practice and celibacy. The results are the ‘tainting of the innocence of the heart’ combined with delusions of the mind. I would submit it's also a failure of hegemonic patriarchy to educate and hold men accountable for what sexual consent means. (Maybe there's a chicken and egg in there.) In other words, water flows where it's unimpeded. A flawed practice, celibacy and a better understanding of consent internalized via clearer, more consistent social mores (U.S. president is a rapist), maybe our dude would be more likely to figure out how to course correct or just jerk off like a normal person instead of being creepy or worse. Just a theory. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites