The one of you.

[Everything]

What if everyday, was the best day, of the rest of your life. 

 

It is easy to enjoy every day. 

I enjoy it by taking full advantage of every single here and now moment of experience. 

 

It is easy to enjoy everything. 

So do not find it difficult to suffer. 

And you will find it easy to enjoy everything. 

Do allow yourself to suffer. 

For you will then know, you created it. 

And so you will be free to create something else.

The fun of life is boring. It is so normal and natural. 

It so free and joyful. 

So pure and innocent. 

It is like your soul. 

You are inside your soul. 

It is all around you. 

This life being a dream, is what makes it so real. 

And so you can keep enjoying the realness of all dreams. 

I can fly easily through the sky. Through my imagination. 

Touch the clouds. Breath the fresh cold air. All the while feel the warmth of the sun. 

 

The realness of life is what we make of it. 

It is more difficult to imagine something that is beyond our life. 

A goodness so great, that we cannot find a value for it. 

So we call it not yet fully realised, being our soul. 

Yet we can feel our way towards the allowed realisation of it. 

And then we will know, that it is our soul, who has been realising us, evermore.

Flying physically is highly unlikely. 

We do not enjoy being highly unlikely. 

Because we are dreaming this dream together, with many dreamers. 

And there will be greater dreams evermore.

 

If you were to dream freely, others would wake up.
They would bless you. 
And you woulden't be able to fall asleep, except into a greater dream. 

Life is real, because it is the greatest dream there is.
And it will become a greater dream evermore. 

 

Life is about as big as you are. 
Always perfectly matching you up, with those of like dreams. 
A co dreamed dream of evermore greater dreams. 

But yet, life is short. 
And the greatest dream we have, is the smallest dream of our soul. 
As our soul surpasses all time and space effortlessly evermore. 

The next life is already happening here and now evermore. 
Together with you. So that you don't have to be it. And it doesn't have to be you. 
So you come to realise the perfection that is you. 
And thus then become evermore. 

When you die. And are born anew. 
Suddenly finding all things new has always been old and true. 
As that which will stand the test of time, is all that you are, and it is you. 

 

The one of you,

-by Everything. 

[manitou]

Everything, that was beautiful.

 

Something occurred to me tonight, a realization.

 

Matter knows its shape.

[Everything]

On 19-10-2019 at 6:26 AM, manitou said:

Everything, that was beautiful.

 

Something occurred to me tonight, a realization.

 

Matter knows its shape.

Oh, I love realisations. Because you create those realisations. You allow those realisations, to be the creation you created, you then allowed, and not contradicted, and so you allowed yourself to realise the realisation you already are creating all day and everyday. But it is a realisation that your own inner being is creating all of the day, as you for you with you through you. To the degree that you allow it. And the better you feel emotionally, that just indicates you are allowing your own natural realisations that much more!

 

And here you have realised the one realisation that FINALLY lifts the veil and unnecessary seperation between physical and non-physical! How great is that! And how good does that feel. To know that we are all, all things in physical, are all an extension of this Source consciousness of infinite intelligence, eternal wisdom, ever expanding, unconditional love. You are an inseperable extension of it, it is your unconditional deserving evermore and it will always feel wonderful to you, very good, very satisfying to allow yourself to realise all that you truely are, being and becoming evermore here and now, fully flowing consciously realised by you allowed by you to be realised by you, fully through your physical being, for the natural joyous state of being that you truely are, as the whole of all that you are.

 

We are inseperable extensions of it. Our own greater non-physical consciousness is, and we are an extension of our own greater non-physical consciousness. We are that Source Energy, and it flows through everything, and so everything is of us and we are of it. 

 

To realise the purity of this consciousness. The realness of it, the good feeling realisation of the realness of it, implying your conscious realisation and receiving and allowing your receiving of your own greater non-physical consciousness. Resonating with the WHOLE of all that you truely are. That feels very good. Naturally. Physical and non-physical together as one, whole fully realised joyous being.

 

So you can come to realise this is the source of all things, consciousness, pure positive energy, purely non-contradicted energy motional beingness, purely allowed to be purely realised. To be all that it already is being and becoming evermore here and now. As the core of who all are at the core of who we all are being and becoming evermore, in full harmony and alignment with the ever expanding Source of All Creation, ever expanding consciousness of ever expanding realisations being and becoming evermore, infinite intelligence, eternal wisdom, unconditional love. 

 

The ever abounding stream of well being. That is the reason for and of everything. The joyous reason. The joyous realisation. The natural effortless joyous realisation. The allowed joyous realisation. Of all things being and becoming evermore here and now. Allowed by one to be fully realised by one, to be fully co-realised, co-created, as one whole fully totally realised by one, of physical and non-physical. A consciousness fully allowing their consciousness to be fully realised by them, with 0 contradiction. Purely allowed to be realised consciousness. Awareness. Beingness. Essence. Of all things that we want to be do or have, our own greater non-physical consciousness becomes all of it, evermore.

 

And so when we realise that, and we flow with the good feeling of it, we realise it ongoingly evermore effortlessly. Everything we have ever wanted naturally flows into our experience ongoingly evermore, because we are in alignment with our own true being. That surpasses all time and space, evermore here and now. As the deliberate conscious realiser of all these things. The deliberate conscious creator of all these things we see and taste and touch and smell, as we call it matter.

 

So when you focus on those things you do not want, you are flowing against your own consciousness, and thus your own conscious allowed realisation of your own greater non-physical consciousness. All the way to the source of all creation. You become a lesser allowed to flow and be consciousness. Lesser allowed by you to be realised by you, as the true all that you truely are. At the always good feeling core of all of who you truely are, being and becoming evermore here and now. 

 

And so we create this thing called death, to seperate our own physical consciousness from our own greater non-physical consciousness. Which is just a self contradictory thought that we keep thinking, that defines the physical human nature of so many physical human beings, so unnecessarily, seperating / limitting their own natural allowance / receiving of their own greater non-physical consciousness. Which flows through you! And you are an extension of it. So ofcourse you need to allow it to flow more and thus allow yourself to feel better more, because otherwise you die. Which is also why often people die when they think allot about death. Because they are thinking self contradictory thoughts, which keep feeling worse, untill they die. Then they realise its a self contradictory thought, and that's it. There is no realness to it, never has been and never will be, when you got acces to the bigger picture of the IMMENSE BIGNESS of well-being that is at the source of everything.

 

So that we can move on from any and all self contradictory thoughts, and just allow our own greater non-physical consciousness to flow more through us, and allow ourselves to come to realise all that we truely are being and becoming evermore here and now, as the deliberate joyous conscious co-realiser co-creator of your joyous life experience that is all that you truely are being and becoming evermore here and now.

 

That never offers any thought of seperation between you and it. We are all made out of the same essence. We are all made out of this Source Energy source consciousness, source of all creation. We all got acces to it. And all you gotta do is pay attention to it, and you allow it to flow more consciously through you and your life. You gotta know your valuable emotional guidance system. That lets you know, are you flowing your co-realisation right now allowed by you to flow through you, or less. Are you willing to be all that you truely are? Are you willing to allow yourself to feel very good? Emotionally. Because that is your true nature, your true resonance with the whole of all that you truely are. In full harmony and alignment with the energy which creates worlds.

 

You cannot allow yourself to be all that you truely are, if you are flowing your consciousness through you into the lesser good feeling and lesser allowed realisation of itself. Meaning thinking thoughts that don't feel so good and thus that doesn't allow your conscious realisation of all that you are and want, that your inner being, your source consciousness knows and is incapable of knowing anything less than all that you truely want to be do or have. So simply allow yourself to be of the same pure conscious willingness to know the moreness of all that you truely want to be do or have evermore here and now! Effortlessly joyously. Freely. To come more into alignment with that always feels better emotionally. As you release one thought of resistance, feel better, and allow one thought of lesser resistance resistance, feel better. 

 

Ongoingly, and effortlessly, feeling your way into alignment with all that you've become, and all that you truely are, being and becoming evermore here and now, in full concert with the whole of all that everything is being and becoming evermore here and now. As the ever expanding Source of All Creation.That is your ever unconditional deserving evermore being and becoming evermore here and now, for you, as you, with you, through you. So that you have acces to the intelligence of that which creates worlds. The love of that which creates worlds. The natural effortless worthiness and deserving and harmony and ability to co-create any and all things you can ever want to be do or have. Because it feels good to you, and it feels better. And it is simply your natural and joyous birthright and natural and joyous effortless allowed realisation evermore. Of all things you want. Evermore allowed by you to be realised by you.

 

That is how you create. You simply do it energy motionally, emotionally. You feel your way into good feeling alignment with it, and you simply allow any and all things to be thus then evermore allowed by you to be evermore effortlessly realised by you. And ofcourse you exist within your own greater non-physical consciousness. So you always got acces to all that you truely are. You just gotta be willing to feel good more of the time. And everything will naturally and effortlessly be allowed by you to be evermore effortlessly and joyously realised by you. Because you have always been it and you have always been becoming the moreness of it evermore here and now.

 

And you simply cannot flow your consciousness through yourself in contradiction with it/your self, and allow your natural good feeling realisation at the same time. You would then simply not feel so good if you do/did that. So know the value of your emotional guidance system and know you are naturally and effortlessly allowed to be one who is willing to feel good and allowing themselves to come to realise all that they truely are being and becoming evermore naturally and effortlessly and joyously here and now. To simply flow the energy which creates worlds through you for the effortless joyous allowance of the effortless joyous co-realisation of all things you want to be do or have. For the mere joyous life experience that is you. That is your evermore being and becoming evermore here and now. That you can always better feelingly felt allow yourself to come to realise all of it. So naturally and effortlessly. So better feelingly. So less resistance. So more allowance. So more natural and good feeling. It is simply your true nature. That is your unconditional deserving evermore. 

 

As consciousness, lucid clear consciousness, pure consciousness, purely allowed to flow, through you, purely allowed by you to be purely realised by you. As the co-creator of all of your life experience. Conscious deliberate co-creator. in full concert and harmony and alignment with your own ever expanding greater non-physical consciousness and the ever expanding source of all creation.

 

You just gotta be willing to feel good. As just thinking about feeling good will bring it about. As that will allow your conscious realisation of the true resonance that is you. You resonating with your own greater allowed realisation of your own greater non-physical consciousness! Talk about the bigness of that, and the value of that and the EASE of allowing yourself to feel that. That which is your natural ability to feel good, to feel all that you truely are.  To feel this good feeling emotion. And to no longer be willing to think in discord / disharmony / contradiction with all that you truely are being and becoming evermore here and now. For then you would just be contradicting yourself. There is no reason for that ever. It will always just be a self contradictory thought that you temporarily use as your temporary excuse to block your own conscious realisation of evermore.  That you could be allowing yourself to receive, by letting go of thoughts that block that, evermore. And just allowing your natural good feeling conscious realisation evermore. 

 

To feel good simply for the purpose that it feels good, that is the only reason you will ever need, evermore, here and now. Regardless of any and all conditions, under any and all conditions, unconditionally, emotionally. Because it feels good, because it is who you truely are. And to allow yourself to be all that you truely are. You will come to realise naturally and effortlessly and joyously all that you truely are being and becoming evermore here and now. Where all the inner beings are of all the physical extensions of all the consciousness' of all the ever expanding source of all creation. To re-member with all of that. It simply feels good, that's all there is to it, and allthe evermoreness that is there for it, and of it, and to it and from it, and with it, and through it. For you, with you, as you, through you, to you, from you, etc. etc.

 

Being and becoming evermore here and now. As a fully allowed by you to be fully realised by you, being and becoming evermore here and now. In full natural harmony and alignment with the ever expanding source of all creation. Of your own greater non-physical consciousness, and your greater non-physical consciousness of it. Where your inner being always is evermore being and becoming here and now, for you, with you, through you, as you, around you, with you, within you, to you, from you, as all things being and becoming evermore here and now. Through you. For you. With you. Allowed by you to be realised by you, ongoingly more effortlessly and joyously and naturally evermore. 

 

To simply look at life, and allow the natural conscious realisation of all things you want, to be realised by you evermore ongoingly and effortlessly and naturally and joyously here and now. Better feelingly emotionally here and now. A state of lesser resistance. A state of greater allowance. A better feeling state of being, that is one where you allow yourself to feel better emotionally, by releasing resistant thought, even meditating to allow your natural self realisation to be allowed by you to be felt more and realised by you more fully and naturally and effortlessly. That you don't have to even do anything to allow yourself to naturally and effortlessly feel better. That even wanting to feel better, is the core realisation in and of itself, of the core nature of who you are. And that will bring about the natural realisation of itself, of YOUR self. Of ALL that you truely are being and becoming evermore joyously and freely here and now. In full concert with the source of all creation. Being and becoming evermore here and now. As your unconditional, emotionally better feeling deserving evermore here and now.

 

To allow yourself to come to realise all things you truely want to be do or have evermore here and now. To allow yourself to feel better evermore. And then as you realise it evermore naturally and effortlessly and ongoingly, and good feelingly here and now, and you come across a perspective or thought or idea that doesn't feel good, simply take joy in that. Celebrate the new realisation, of your new birthing of a new joyous realisation of a new joyous being and becoming evermore here and now. Of all the moreness of all that you want to be do or have evermore here and now. As your joyous eternal journey of evermore being and becoming evermore here and now. As there is nothing that you cannot be do or have. But you gotta be willing to look where it already is being and becoming. Where you greater non-physical consciousness always is FOR YOU. So that you can feel your way towards your allowed realisation of it, as your valuable emotional guidance system. That you can thus then naturally and effortlessly allow yourself to feel better, unconditionally. Regardless of any and all conditions. To simply live for the joy of that which is who you truely are. Which is also why it feels always so good. To allow yourself to be all that is who it is you truely always are being and becoming evermore here and now. So to go with the flow of your own joy, of your own greater non-physical consciousness and all of its greater knowing that it has for you evermore here and now. 

 

And you come to realise those good feeling realisations always. NAturally, evermore. Under any and all conditions. And so all those conditions become more fully and effortlessly and joyously and naturally realised by you evermore ongoingly effortlessly and joyously and worthily, and naturally, evermore here and now. A the moreness of all that you want to be do or have evermore. As your joyous conscious co-realisation of all of it evermore here and now, in full concert and harmony and alignment with your own ever expanding greater non-physical consciousness. All the way to the ever expanding Source of All Creation. So joy to you and more evermore. Of all things you want evermore. Ongoingly evermore allowed by you to be naturally and effortlessly realised by you. To simply be do or have anything you want to be do or have. As you are worthy of all of it being and becoming evermore here and now. To be allowed by you to be also thus evermore so fully realised by you, ongoingly evermore naturally and effortlessly and better feelingly here and now.

Edited October 20, 2019 by Everything

[manitou]

It's funny when you realize your original self.  I've actually struggled against this realization for a long time.

 

As you know, Everything, I've been a recovering alkie for many years.  I have learned to work a killer Alanon program over the years too, a program for those who are in a co-dependent thing with another alcoholic.  I have been approached by a recently sober gay man who needs a place to live.  A delightful man who would be a great roommate.  He recently nearly died from pancreatitis a couple weeks ago.  I had previously decided not to take this roommate in, as I felt I had re-manifested the very same situation that I did with Joe many years ago - a newly recovering alcoholic on my doorstep.  At first, I turned this man down, as I didn't want the dynamic in my home.

 

But after he got out of the hospital, I sensed a new sense of urgency in him, wanting to stay sober.  So I have agreed to let him rent out half of the house on a trial basis.  He will be signing a contract that says that if he drinks any alcohol he will be immediately gone.  I put no faith in such contracts, as people are people.  But it does set an elementary boundary, which is more for me than even for him.

 

After making this decision, I realized something very basic about myself.  It started when I glanced up at a vintage old print that I have hanging in my bedroom.  I bought this print in an antique store probably 15 years ago.  But I bought it because I grew up with this same print hanging on the wall of my aunt's house.  And it has always haunted me.

 

You've probably seen it.  It's the print of a collie howling out in a snowstorm, with a sweet little lamb laying at his feet.  He howls for the shepherd to find the lamb.  There are scavenger birds awaiting the death of this lamb, barely discernible in the background.

 

Apparently this print has been at the center of my heart since childhood.  I know that I am the collie.  I can't change that, no matter how hard I try.  I was born with a savior complex.

 

But the tool I have today is one that I didn't have at the start of the relationship with Joe.  I know how to Not-Do.  And it is from this perspective that I am going into this.  Wu-wei all the way,  baby.

 

So yes, realizing my true self in this case is more of a surrender to something I know has always been there, but may not seem to be a wise action that I am taking.  

 

It will be interesting.

 

And for writing that beautiful response for me, I grant you a giant Ping from your fairy godmother.

 

    ( ( (     PING !  ) ) )

 

                  

[Jim D.]

Back in the days of Bob and Bob, they use to do a lot of that, taking in drunks that wanted to get sober. They use to give them a pint to take the shakes away too. They also had meetings in their homes etc. 

 

Today it is much riskier to do so. They had drunks, today we have drunks and addicts. 

 

Well anyway,  I was at an archery competition. I struck up a conversation with someone who knew a lot about this sport. She asked me how it is that I don't join a training group that meets twice per month. I responded that I don't want to have to attend. I don't want to commit...I just want to approach archery casually. It felt good to say what I mean, and mean what I say without wondering what the other person thought of me, or second guessing myself. 

 

It feels good to be free from the bondage of self. 

[manitou]

29 minutes ago, Jim D. said:

 

It feels good to be free from the bondage of self. 

 

Yes, it does.  It also feels good to encounter your real self and real-ize it.

 

 

[Jim D.]

Perhaps we can talk about what the "real self" is? I think that it may be defined by some as our spiritual self. I do believe it can be perceived as a void of self in meditation. Let's say that I am practicing "Embryonic breathing." And even in this state of awareness, there still is a focus on my breathing and exhalation. There is the imagery of internal abdominal breathing. But my brain is still in use. It still is sensing the body's responses to this state of relaxation. I am not in a world of ideas as Plato would say. I am in a world of "accidents" as Aristotle would postulate. Only these "accidents" are coming from me...my brain. 

 

So, I am suggesting that the real self in its purest sense is experienced in the womb...just sensory experience and interdependence on Mom. 

 

Skinner tells us that we are nothing but reactionaries to environmental stimuli. 

 

So, maybe an example of "encounter with your real self and realizing it" would help to clarify this concept. 

 

Thank you. 

[manitou]

22 minutes ago, Jim D. said:

Perhaps we can talk about what the "real self" is? I think that it may be defined by some as our spiritual self. I do believe it can be perceived as a void of self in meditation. Let's say that I am practicing "Embryonic breathing." And even in this state of awareness, there still is a focus on my breathing and exhalation. There is the imagery of internal abdominal breathing. But my brain is still in use. It still is sensing the body's responses to this state of relaxation. I am not in a world of ideas as Plato would say. I am in a world of "accidents" as Aristotle would postulate. Only these "accidents" are coming from me...my brain. 

 

So, I am suggesting that the real self in its purest sense is experienced in the womb...just sensory experience and interdependence on Mom. 

 

Skinner tells us that we are nothing but reactionaries to environmental stimuli. 

 

So, maybe an example of "encounter with your real self and realizing it" would help to clarify this concept. 

 

Thank you. 

 

 

I think the purest self would be the idea.  The connection of the sperm and egg.  The moment when consciousness is unsullied, much like Khaleesi's army.   Immediate sullization of the womb.  Lots goin' on there.

[Everything]

6 hours ago, manitou said:

 

 

I think the purest self would be the idea.  The connection of the sperm and egg.  The moment when consciousness is unsullied, much like Khaleesi's army.   Immediate sullization of the womb.  Lots goin' on there.

Yeah when you are born you come fresh from that pure positive source energy consciousness. But more importantly for all humans here. You do the same when you just wake up. Before you activate your energetic thought patterns of resistance or discord or self contradiction in energy motional nature of those thoughts flowing your true nature through you in contradiction with itself indicated by lesser good feeling emotions. Most people do this unintentionally, as sort of habbit. So meditation right before you sleep and then also right when you wake up, and then feeling the alignment as good feeling emotions first and then allowing the conscious realisation and co-realisation of and with your own ever expanding greater non-physical consciousness, to allow for true pure good feeling thoughts non contradicted fully allowed by you to be fully realised by you pure positive thoughts in full harmony and alignment with your own greater knowing, of your own ever expanding greater non-physical consciousness all the way to the ever expanding source of all creation of infinite intelligence and eternal wisdom and unconditional love. 

 

So when you meditate before sleep. Release all thoughts by focusing consistently and holding your attention consistently on anything that doesn't encourage thought, so that it becomes your consistent pure experience and only it. Fully. So you leave behind all thoughts of resistance or discordance and so your natural state of realisation and receiving is allowed and re-alignment which allows for the conscious receiving and realisation. That means, you will also wake up in that state and again even more stabilized and allowed to be realised by meditating again after waking up. That increases the likelihood of you coming into allowed alignment and realisation of and with your own greater non-physical consciousness, which is this ever pureness aspect of your being and becoming evermore here and now. And it can be allowedby you to be realised and co-realisation by and with you with the whole of all that you truely are. As the joyous conscious cocreator of your life. Corealisor of your life. In full blown conscious ability to flow your greater knowing fully purely through you, uncontradicted, fully allowed to be realised by you. To be do or have whatever you truely want also thus then capableby you to be co-realised by and with you and your greater non-physical consciousness. For the joyous life experience that is you. 

 

So when you feel negative emotion, and you have resistant thought patterns active within you, no matter how bad you feel, that negative emotion is simply indicating your own purity of being and nature, of your own greater non-physical consciousness. Which has come to perspective of knowing, for you, as you, as your true core pure essence of being of all that you truely are being and becoming evermore here and now. That's why you always feel your energy motional relativity to this pure core essence of your greater non-physical consciousness as your emotional guidance system. So the more you care about how you feel and the more you are willing to feel better, regardless of any and all conditions, under any and all conditions, unconditionally, emotionally, the more you are capable of realising your true pure knowing, for the joyous life experience that is your unconditional worthiness and deserving evermore here and now. 

[Jim D.]

12 hours ago, manitou said:

 

I think the purest self would be the idea.  The connection of the sperm and egg.

 

The early Philosophers were psychologist of sorts. Plato talked about the "World of Ideas," meaning that all we know now in our conscious awareness was already there. We just have to become reacquainted with it. 

 

If you're talking about a "Prime Mover," or God, or "First Cause" then in procreating we are simply stewards of a Divine Plan. 

 

You mention your Recovery History. Was it your self's plan to make your life miserable and unmanageable. First Step says, "Admitted we were powerless over Alcohol, and that our lives had become unmanageable." They tell us that it is a disease of self...or dis-ease as I like to say. Did our self decide that it was time to destroy us? Or was it the self that decided that it would be more fun to ignore a responsible life of spirituality, self care, and caring for others. 

 

There is a lot to comment on. Take your time. Your response will be greatly appreciated. 

[manitou]

1 hour ago, Jim D. said:

 

The early Philosophers were psychologist of sorts. Plato talked about the "World of Ideas," meaning that all we know now in our conscious awareness was already there. We just have to become reacquainted with it. 

 

If you're talking about a "Prime Mover," or God, or "First Cause" then in procreating we are simply stewards of a Divine Plan. 

 

No, I'm not talking about a first cause or god.  We are god.  Time is an illusion and it's all happening Now.  We just perceive it as linear.

 

1 hour ago, Jim D. said:

You mention your Recovery History. Was it your self's plan to make your life miserable and unmanageable.

 

Not consciously.  But at an unconscious level, yes.  Due to conditioning.

 

1 hour ago, Jim D. said:

 

 

First Step says, "Admitted we were powerless over Alcohol, and that our lives had become unmanageable." They tell us that it is a disease of self...or dis-ease as I like to say. Did our self decide that it was time to destroy us? Or was it the self that decided that it would be more fun to ignore a responsible life of spirituality, self care, and caring for others. 

 

There is a lot to comment on. Take your time. Your response will be greatly appreciated. 

 

 

By saying Us, I'm assuming you're a friend of Bill's as well? The subconscious self held full sway during the downward spiral.  My moment of clarity was when I was being driven down a mountain road, asked my friend to pull over, and threw up outside the car.  As luck would have it, a big gust of wind blew it all into the car, all over him.  It was at that moment that I heard a male voice inside my head say 'you're better than this'.  At that moment, I Saw, and have not taken a drink in 40 years this December.

 

No, the real Me is the same one as the real You.  We are the same critter.  The critter that gets finally exposed is when the bad conditioning is removed through the efforts of the steps, a very gradual process.  A lifetime process of nuances.  I think this has been pivotal in any enlightened thought I may experience.

 

Do you have another way of looking at it?

[Jim D.]

You are correct. I am a friend of Bill and Bob, and Lois...along with EA and NA. I started off in Al-Anon and then became a double winner about 10 years later when I took a look at my relationship with Alcohol and Pot. If it wasn't for the structure of the 12 Steps and forgiving sponsors my future would have been an endless journey into insanity and oblivion. I am thankful I had another chance at life.  I was a terribly sick individual that bordered on Schizophrenia. It was the "rigorous honesty" part of the Program that helped me to ferret out the difference between insane thinking and sane thinking. It took about 10 years to put together a few days per week where I felt normal. When I look back I should have been on medication, but the old timers did not approve. I did not know better, so I struggled  through each day hoping that some emotional relief could happen without having to go to something to mood alter. I found out early on that my second sponsor (I had two at the time) thought I wouldn't make it. I was suicidal for a while. But the drive to not be left behind kept me going forward. 

 

Now taking a look back at your question. 

5 hours ago, manitou said:

Not consciously.  But at an unconscious level, yes.  Due to conditioning.

 

What you say above is so interesting to me. I have never heard unconscious and conditioning brought up around the tables. If anyone was to venture off topic and use these psychoanalytic terms, we would hear "analysis paralysis," or "keep it simple stupid."

 

I would like to hear about the program you're working. You know, from the time you wake up till you go to bed. 

 

Your story about the blow back puke was funny.

 

My rock bottom was being locked down in a psychiatric unit with the threat of loosing everything. Now mind you, I saw being locked up as another yet and way to get over my circumstances. Right!!!

 

I think that genetic predisposition passed on by my Dad set me up (he had 43 years in the Program before he passed away). What was conditioned in me was the life style I led in the 60's...sex, drugs, and rock & roll....This must be heaven man!!!

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On 22-10-2019 at 1:01 AM, Jim D. said:

You are correct. I am a friend of Bill and Bob, and Lois...along with EA and NA. I started off in Al-Anon and then became a double winner about 10 years later when I took a look at my relationship with Alcohol and Pot. If it wasn't for the structure of the 12 Steps and forgiving sponsors my future would have been an endless journey into insanity and oblivion. I am thankful I had another chance at life.  I was a terribly sick individual that bordered on Schizophrenia. It was the "rigorous honesty" part of the Program that helped me to ferret out the difference between insane thinking and sane thinking. It took about 10 years to put together a few days per week where I felt normal. When I look back I should have been on medication, but the old timers did not approve. I did not know better, so I struggled  through each day hoping that some emotional relief could happen without having to go to something to mood alter. I found out early on that my second sponsor (I had two at the time) thought I wouldn't make it. I was suicidal for a while. But the drive to not be left behind kept me going forward. 

 

Now taking a look back at your question. 

 

What you say above is so interesting to me. I have never heard unconscious and conditioning brought up around the tables. If anyone was to venture off topic and use these psychoanalytic terms, we would hear "analysis paralysis," or "keep it simple stupid."

 

I would like to hear about the program you're working. You know, from the time you wake up till you go to bed. 

 

Your story about the blow back puke was funny.

 

My rock bottom was being locked down in a psychiatric unit with the threat of loosing everything. Now mind you, I saw being locked up as another yet and way to get over my circumstances. Right!!!

 

I think that genetic predisposition passed on by my Dad set me up (he had 43 years in the Program before he passed away). What was conditioned in me was the life style I led in the 60's...sex, drugs, and rock & roll....This must be heaven man!!!

Well, I am glad you have found a way to feel better and that you still do. And I also know that I am also often feeling better, emotionally. And I also know that I will always be feeling better emotionally. And I also know that I will always be feeling worse less, emotionally. I simply stay present to my own emotional guidance system. The best cure for ilness is wellness. So instead of waiting for ilness, I simply allow the wellness, by feeling better. Focusing my thoughts more on wellness, thoughts of wellness which feel better to me emotionally. And wellness becomes easily realised thus because I can always feel wether I'm focusing more on wellness or more on ilness. And thus I can always feel wether I am creating more wellness in my life or more illness.

 

As it is also natural to feel better. And it is an easier path to allow oneself to feel better. And focus more on those things that do feel better to us. Which is also why it feels better, because it is simply compatible with our true nature. And so I take the easy path, and I allow myself to feel better. Everyone can allow themselves to feel better. And thus be more healthy and well and feel more  comfortable in their own skin and life. Take life step by step. Consciously, feeling my way always to that which feels better ongoingly more succesfully and effortlessly and naturally.

 

And it's not so much about action rather than thought. Usually when you catch yourself suddenly feeling bad, it is merely a thought that you think, that when you catch yourself going down that path, you simply take a deep breath, release the thought, and continue focusing on wellness and you feel better. For all is well. And it is all ment to be enjoyed thus. Which is also why we feel worse when we don't allow ourselves to enjoy all that is here for us to be enjoyed, in the way we truely know and can enjoy it in a way that truely does feel better to us. That our  emotions are always perfectly guiding us along our way and path to evermore wellness. As I focous on the welness more and feel better more. It becomes obvious that my emotions are perfect always. It's just a guidance to help us along our merrily way. To allow us to allow ourselves to feel better. And enjoy our life more. By simply thinking more in alignment with our own greater non-physical consciousness and thus feel better. Because we simply allow ourselves to be true to who we really are. And so everything becomes realised by us that much more easily and effortlessly. And most of all, that much more enjoyably and freely. And playfully.