A very special topic for the prolific, unsolicited contributions of our very special @Everything, despite appeals to the contrary. --- P.S. let me know if you'd like a personal practice subforum of your very own, homie. — Sean     Jeez that's pretty  easy, tho you have allot of specific requests here, it's still super easy to answer that.   What they were really up to, is what they were really up to.   And that means, in order to be really up to what they were really up to, they had to find a way to allow us, to realise that we are the original creators of our present lifestyle. So that they could be really up to what they were really up to. And whatever we did in co-creation with them was really completely and entirely up to us, and they absolutely didn't give a rip about us, only some of them, co-created in harmony with humanity a tiny tiny little bit. Meaning we could only allow our realisation to the degree that we could allow it, and so, if we wanted to interact with them, we were free to do so. And if that ment we created our own suffering, they really did not care. It is our own process of our own being of our own co-realisation of and with our own greater non-physical consciousness. Meaning our own soul of humanity. Nothing they could do to lessen that, only we could. And they might have added a little bit to our humanity. But so little!   As allowing us to come to realise what we were really up to, made it also easier for them to be really up to what they were really up to.   So they were there, we had a conflict, because they didn't want to be there in the first place, and secondly, without them, we would still have a conflict with ourselves, so they simply reminded us, that whenever we would have a conflict with ourselves, or them, to simply not do that. Meaning those few who did co-create harmoniously with us. They simply said, Don't make conflict, keep a cool head. Because "WE OF ALL PEOPLE FEEL REALLY ENTITLED TO TELL YOU THAT MAKING CONFLICT WITH YOURSELF IS NOT GONNA HELP OK? We fcked up... But you don't gotta make it worse for us, because then we just gotta remind you that there is no point in fighting... We can only help a little bit give you a little tiny bit of understanding, it is only you who will eventually allow yourself to create your own understanding. We are not even allowed nor capable being the original creator of your own lifestyle."   Infact many humans killed them, and those humans were greatly celebrated even. Those beings who came here to stay here really were not powerful. they are not capable of being here on this planet, this is not their planet, they were forced to be here. To sort of find a new way of being and becoming.   which is also the primary message they gave, to help us realise that whatever was gonna come next, would be ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY AND ENTIRELY 100% of our own creating. And our own choosing. That was the only message and contribution and maybe a little bit physical aid here and there, and the rest was just physical conflict. That was simply part of human nature ANYWAY. So again, no matter what they said, we misunderstood it and misinterpreted it from our own evolutionary point of understanding, and mostly we just resonated with their own despair and felt sorry for them, and hated them and they often hated us as well, as this fighting and conflict was also a healing to them. Because they really fcked up their own planet. literally. They lost everything. But there was still value that also for us, as those celebrated warriors who could kill them. Even tho it takes thousands of years to come to realise it. But how we realised it, was not through them. We taught it to ourselves through ourselves entirely. As they literally could not do that for us, impossible. It was completely and 100% through ourselves. That without them we would still also do it for ourselves anyway. And what they contributed as you already know was so small that all traces of it is lost. The things you can find is again, 100% OUR OWN CREATING. OUR OWN CHOOSING.   "So self conflict will just lead to the unnecessary destruction of your own home planet, and then you will have to find a smaller less comfortable one. And kind of not be comfortable and very sad ok? So don't fight, all we gotta say, is peace. Just remember, peace is important, it is your soul, and it is the least important thing, meaning, whatever can ever be of any importance to you, it is either peace, OR EVERYTHING THAT IS MORE THAN PEACE, but not ever less than peace. So go worship peace instead of us."   So, ofcourse they could not teach peace, because they were not here to teach peace. And we were one who would eventually also be the one who would teach it to themselves as we are also doing right now, for ourselves, through ourselves. We really don't and didn't and still don't need them for that, they just happened to be around and we still know they were.   They just offered us a way through which we could find it along our own evolutionary path, eventually, either yes or no, not up to them. To come to realise peace for ourselves more consistently and reduce the need for war. But they again, just told people peace, and that's it. And ofcourse they coulden't really teach any of it because they were not good teachers of it, because they lost their own peace and so they were also up to finding their own peace again. Which again is completely irrelevant to us back then, they were not really intending to co-create with humans that much. There was mostly conflict between us and them. They then did all they were up to, which had not much related to what we were up to, so there was conflict, and some slight co-operation. But again, they came here, in self degration. So that conflict was just a match to them and to us anyway in that moment.   Ofcourse without them, we continued to have many self conflicts. And without them we also would have done so anyway. As our own evolutionary process. But they were not here to be the original creators of our present lifestyle. Because there is no such thing in this physical universe as someone playing god. That was simply another thing altogether, of higher dimensional beings who came here, who took some advantage of this planet, which again, had nothing to do with us, because that was not personal. That was complete disregard for any and all human activity, infact, there was also some enslavement, of humans. Why? Because humans were a perfect MATCH for being enslaved. They were literally begging to be enslaved as their OWN CHOOSING. Temporarily. And that's it. The end.   Because that enslavement ended. Because those who enslaved humans, had absolute 0 interest in humans, as humans also created their own enslavement, and more importantly, they absolutely did not need our enslavement. they also did not do anything for humans. Which is also why these beings are not the original creators of our present lifestyle. And those who did remain here also did not enslave us, they either co-operated in tiny numbers or not at all, meaning they just did their own things.   So the enslavement was not by them, WE CHOSE to be enslaved by whoever came here after them, meaning our ancestors chose that, many of them, chose to be enslaved. And what they received during those times was not correct knowledge. We are now uncovering the correct realisation of what those higher dimensional beings were truely up to and it had nothing to do with what we THOUGHT they were up to. And what we thought they were up to was an idea of OUR OWN CREATING, THAT WE CREATED and WE preserved that idea as if it was important. BUT IT IS NOT EVEN A LITTLE TINY BIT important, because it is just our own idea of our own creating. It's complete and utter foolishness and basic elementary idolization of primitive minded humans, who were still new in their evolutionary coming to realise physical time space reality. We are obviously way more advanced than that, tho not always, sometimes we allow our greater intelligence and sometimes we are still kind of being a bit stupid, cause we don't care so much. We're just here to enjoy our own journey. Of self discovery.   So now, after such a long time, we still desire to know the importance of what we thought was importance. And we never could understand it, because it was never important, because we insisted it was important, meaning, we insisted that OUR IDEA OF WHAT WAS important was important, but it was still just an idea, a misunderstanding of what was actually happening, and what we actually did, but it wasn't important and more importantly right now it still isn't important and it never will be. The importance that we will find now today nowadays, present moment time humanity, 2019, is the importance that we are capable of understanding to the degree that we will allow our own capability of understanding what truely was. It had nothing to do with humanity and still has got nothing to do with humanity. but now... We are more capable of understanding it, by also understanding that we misunderstood it. And those beings who stayed here and did not leave, they also are not better than us, but they didn't enslave us nor encourage our enslavement, they just basically came here to die and suffer and maybe take whatever was capable of surviving to survive however wherever. Through the path of least resistance, even if that ment, the path of more resistance, cause they fcked up really good. They were not enslaved they did not encourage our enslavement, infact some of them even co-created with humanity in a harmonious way, and many of them had conflict with us. So they contributed a very tiny litthol eeny weeny tiny mino bitty to our dna. That's all. And only a tiny tiny few of them. Just temporarily in a small tiny places. The tiny ones of them. So not important. But yeah whatever you wanna make important for yourself. Because many people still believe that they are still here.   But  you wont find them if you wanna make them responsible for your present day life style, because they never have been and never will be. Infact, you will find them, when you come to realise, meaning, when all of humanity will come to realise that they are the co-realiser of their own co-creation with their own greater non-physical consciousness all the way to the ever expanding source of all creation, of infinite intelligence, being and becoming evermore, eternal wisdom, unconditionaly love, as our unconditional deserving. For us, to us, with us, through us, as us, by us. To the degree that we will simply allow for ourselves. To whatever degree we wish, to harmoniously co-create with who ever or whatever we so desire, to be do or have whatever we wanna be do or have, to come to realise whatever we wanna be do or have, evermore ongoingly here and now, as the joy of the eternal journey of our evermore being and becoming evermore here and now.   So how do you allow source of all creation to be more fully realised by you in the here and now moment? You simply feel better emotionally, that's how you do it. However you wanna do it. As that is your primary indication of your here and now energy motional relativity between your physical consciousness and your ever expanding greater non-physical consciousness, all the way to the ever expanding source of all creation. To also help you understand, you will never ever understand ANYTHING of any importance or matter or significance to you, unless it is of peace or more than peace and better than peace, and not ever less. There is nothing down there bellow peace. That is the least that a human being can ever be and become, you cannot ever become less than peace and realise something greater in the process. That's just how you temporarily lessen your own capability of realisation, by looking for it in conflict. Because that is how you create self contradictory thought which lessen your conscious realisation of your own greater non-physical consciousness, and you feel the negative emotion thus then, indicating your here and now lesser allowed conscious realisation of all that you truely are being and becoming evermore here and now. And there is simply never ever a good enough reason to do that ever. It will never be enjoyed by you, and you will simply come to realise the preference of peace more clearly, meaning, you come to know your true desire more clearly, when you truely feel negative emotion, you are more clear than ever about what you truely don't want, and thus you can more fully more joyously and consciously allow yourself to come to realise all that you truely want to be do or have. As peace, and evermore than peace. To simply be do or have whatever you want to be do or have. As your greater non-physical consciousness is already being and becoming the evermoreness of all of it evermore here and now, for you, with you, as you, through you, by you, to you, etc. That is also why you can feel your energy motional relativity to that always as your valuable emotional guidance system, to simple come to realise all that you truely want to be do or have, is to simply be the joyous conscious deliberate co-realisor and co-creator of all that you want to be do or have, in full harmony and alignment with your own ever expanding greater non-physical consciousness all the way to the ever expanding source of all creation.