moment Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SirPalomides said: Okay then. So have you explained Alberto Rivera's theories about the Jesuits to any 5-year-olds lately? Let me try. Alberto Rivera took a few harsh facts and helped spin them into a web that was 90+% outrageous lies. He believed that the Jesuits were even responsible for the formation of the religion of Islam. The fact that the Jesuits were established 700 years after Islam seemed to have made no difference to him.The man was a crackpot. Anybody who actually gives a shit about his conspiracy bullshit, here is some reading for you: http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html It is certainly good for a few good laughs. Edited January 8, 2020 by moment 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, SirPalomides said: For what it's worth, Taomeow, I think your contributions to the forum are valuable and I respect you. But accusing me of anti-Semitic crap... well, I've only made 150 posts to the forum, so it should be pretty easy to produce examples of that. Remind me later. Bad timing, and very bad moment to goad me. I don't think I ever told anyone to fuck off before in all of my years here. We can resume at a more opportune time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirPalomides Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Taomeow said: Remind me later. Bad timing, and very bad moment to goad me. I don't think I ever told anyone to fuck off before in all of my years here. We can resume at a more opportune time. I suspect you have me confused with someone else. A simple apology would suffice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, moment said: Let me try. Alberto Rivera took a few harsh facts and helped spin them into a web that was 90+% outrageous lies. He believed that the Jesuits were even responsible for the formation of the religion of Islam. The fact that the Jesuits were established 700 years after Islam seemed to have made no difference to him.The man was a crackpot. Anybody who actually gives a shit about his conspiracy bullshit, here is some reading for you: http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html It is certainly good for a few good laughs. a 5 year old is gonna get that ? " Jesuits ??? .... Edited January 8, 2020 by Nungali 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moment Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Nungali said: a 5 year old is gonna get that ? " Jesuits ??? .... It may be a bit of a stretch but, then again, I do not accept the premise that "if you can't explain your theory in simple words to a five-year-old, it is wrong ". Edited January 8, 2020 by moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirPalomides Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Also, try explaining to a 5-year old A) what "suicide by cop" is; b ) Why someone would want to do it; c) what it means for a government to commit "suicide by cop"; d) how America is the "cop" in this instance; e) why Iran would want to commit suicide by this "cop" and f) how this is accomplished by launching missiles at an empty base that Iran has forewarned before striking Edited January 8, 2020 by SirPalomides Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted January 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, moment said: It may be a bit of a stretch but, then again, I do not accept the premise that "if you can't explain your theory in simple words to a five-year-old, it is wrong ". ‘I imagine that also applies to the theory of Quantum Mechanics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted January 8, 2020 Lets keep it on subject. At the moment, Trump proves- its better to be lucky, then smart. If the 15 ballistic missiles fired had killed 2 or 3 people, would he then be honor?bound to devastate 52 Iranian sites, cultural or not? It was luck the missiles caused so little damage thus he, and the world were let off the hook. One day, tomorrow or next week, we may not be so lucky. For now though, it kinda worked out well. Which is dangerous, because Trump's supporters/advisers are crowing about his genius understanding, instead of realizing if one of 15 ballistic missiles moved 30 feet to the left, he might have a pressed a button that'd kill 1,000's or 10'000s and set in motion a very destructive war. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted January 8, 2020 23 minutes ago, ralis said: ‘I imagine that also applies to the theory of Quantum Mechanics. Find & Share Quotes with Friends Join Goodreads Albert Einstein > Quotes > Quotable Quote “If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.” ― Albert Einstein 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirPalomides Posted January 8, 2020 Elijah Magnier's article on this is, as usual, worth reading: Quote Just after midnight local time today, Iranian ballistic missiles “Fateh 313” hit two military bases in Iraq that host a significant concentration of US forces, along with other allies. The Iranian direct hit was the retaliation for the US assassination of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds brigade Sardar Qassem Soleimani and his companions, killed by a US drone at Baghdad airport last week. The Iranian retaliation carries several strategic messages to the Middle East for this year 2020 and for many years to come. What are these messages? What will come of Iran’s open attack on the most powerful country in the world? A high-ranking Iranian official contacted the Iraqi Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi after midnight to inform him that Iran had decided to retaliate for the assassination of its General. Iran said it would hit a concentration of US forces in Iraq, without hitting any Iraqi forces. Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi – according to well-informed sources in Baghdad – answered that “this act may carry devastating results on the Middle East: Iraq refuses to become the theatre for a US-Iran war”. The Iranian official replied: “Those who began this cycle of violence are the US, not Iran; the decision has been taken.” Prime Minister Abdel Mahdi informed the US forces of the Iranian decision. US declared a state of emergency and alerted all US bases in Iraq and the region in advance of the attack. Read the rest here: https://ejmagnier.com/2020/01/08/iranian-messages-behind-attacking-us-bases-in-iraq-and-the-consequences/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moment Posted January 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, Taomeow said: Find & Share Quotes with Friends Join Goodreads Albert Einstein > Quotes > Quotable Quote “If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.” ― Albert Einstein Not understanding something and its being wrong are two very different things. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted January 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, thelerner said: Lets keep it on subject. At the moment, Trump proves- its better to be lucky, then smart. If the 15 ballistic missiles fired had killed 2 or 3 people, would he then be honor?bound to devastate 52 Iranian sites, cultural or not? It was luck the missiles caused so little damage thus he, and the world were let off the hook. One day, tomorrow or next week, we may not be so lucky. For now though, it kinda worked out well. Which is dangerous, because Trump's supporters/advisers are crowing about his genius understanding, instead of realizing if one of 15 ballistic missiles moved 30 feet to the left, he might have a pressed a button that'd kill 1,000's or 10'000s and set in motion a very destructive war. agreed, also if anyone thinks a "for now" with the present conditions is in anyway guaranteed or predictable for more than a day or two then they are fooling themselves. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted January 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, moment said: Not understanding something and its being wrong are two very different things. OK. You are not wrong, you just don't understand. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moment Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Taomeow said: OK. You are not wrong, you just don't understand. Funny, a meaningless mis-direction from your original incorrect statement but, still very funny! You have quite a talent for that. I have no problem with my not understanding many things, and you? Edited January 9, 2020 by moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted January 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, moment said: Funny, a meaningless mis-direction from your original incorrect statement but, still very funny! You have quite a talent for that. I have no problem with my not understanding many things, and you? I also have no problem with your not understanding many things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moment Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Taomeow said: I also have no problem with your not understanding many things. Did something bad happen today? You have been mean-spirited, telling people to fuck off and launching mistaken slanderous attacks, unable to let go of untenable positions. Always resorting to a kind of clever silliness. Completely off your game! Well, I kind of feel guilty for being part of hijacking a thread so, I will move on. Whatever is going on, I hope it is better tomorrow. Take care and be well, Edited January 9, 2020 by moment 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dawei Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, moment said: Did something bad happen today? You have been mean-spirited, telling people to fuck off and launching mistaken slanderous attacks, unable to let go of untenable positions. Always resorting to a kind of clever silliness. Completely off your game! Well, I kind of feel guilty for being part of hijacking a thread so, I will move on. Whatever is going on, I hope it is better tomorrow. Take care and be well, You need a lesson in Tao or Meow. maybe both. Off her game?? I found her brilliantly following her way. Whatever guilt you feel is your's to own... dont' try to pass it off onto another needing to feel it. Here's a lesson: Think Tao... then think Meow... do you really get any energetic difference ? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earl Grey Posted January 9, 2020 Hrm. Another political thread. More emotions. Not good. Too many names to run away from fast. Mixing strong personalities and politics. Bad. Close thread. Or walk out. Better to walk out instead of being thrown out. Good people. Good friends. All of them. Bad neighborhood. Walking out. - Rorschach’s journal, final entry 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted January 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Earl Grey said: Hrm. Another political thread. More emotions. Not good. Too many names to run away from fast. Mixing strong personalities and politics. Bad. Close thread. Or walk out. Better to walk out instead of being thrown out. Good people. Good friends. All of them. Bad neighborhood. Walking out. - Rorschach’s journal, final entry I am not touching it! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted January 9, 2020 7 hours ago, moment said: It may be a bit of a stretch but, then again, I do not accept the premise that "if you can't explain your theory in simple words to a five-year-old, it is wrong ". Well, of course , as that isnt how the saying goes at all . The above suggests if you CAN explain 'your theory ' to a 5 year old - it is right . " Yes Billy , the alien space lizards that run the country will eat you if you are naughty . " ( Hmmm ... sounds like 'Mr Appleton ' * ) The original was - if you really understand something, you should be able to explain it to a child . * Spoiler 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted January 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, ralis said: I am not touching it! Me neither. What´s going on between the US and Iran seems like such a big thing, part of me wants to go there. But then I think about the mini-war that could create right here and it doesn´t seem worth it. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted January 9, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, SirPalomides said: Also, try explaining to a 5-year old A) what "suicide by cop" is; b ) Why someone would want to do it; c) what it means for a government to commit "suicide by cop"; d) how America is the "cop" in this instance; e) why Iran would want to commit suicide by this "cop" and f) how this is accomplished by launching missiles at an empty base that Iran has forewarned before striking a - e is based on a misunderstanding of the situation . However I will give f a shot . ' You know that big bully down the street America ? Well he threw a rock and it killed little Iran's favourite doggie. They arent going to put up with that ! But if they do something just as bad back , they will get beaten up . So they threw rocks over the fence at that shed America owns in some one else's backyard that some of them hang out in ...... but someone else told them to go out for the day Edited January 9, 2020 by Nungali 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted January 9, 2020 7 hours ago, ralis said: ‘I imagine that also applies to the theory of Quantum Mechanics. Everything is made of wiggly little stings , some are just long bits of string but others have their ends joined to their beginnings . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted January 9, 2020 7 hours ago, thelerner said: Lets keep it on subject. At the moment, Trump proves- its better to be lucky, then smart. If the 15 ballistic missiles fired had killed 2 or 3 people, would he then be honor?bound to devastate 52 Iranian sites, cultural or not? It was luck the missiles caused so little damage thus he, and the world were let off the hook. One day, tomorrow or next week, we may not be so lucky. For now though, it kinda worked out well. Which is dangerous, because Trump's supporters/advisers are crowing about his genius understanding, instead of realizing if one of 15 ballistic missiles moved 30 feet to the left, he might have a pressed a button that'd kill 1,000's or 10'000s and set in motion a very destructive war. " Luck " ? Gosh , those Iranians are terrible shots, aren't they ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted January 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Taomeow said: Find & Share Quotes with Friends Join Goodreads Albert Einstein > Quotes > Quotable Quote “If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.” ― Albert Einstein Thats the 'more correct ' version . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
