Why gendao is worth having on this forum

[Walker]

7 minutes ago, Boerewors said:

It's easy to kick people when they're down. I guess herd mentality is what one should expect from cowards who need their hands held. 

 

Oh gawwwwwd, you're acting like a kid who insisted on playing rugby with the big kids and then threw a gigantic purple tantrum because somebody tackled him.

 

If you want people to talk to you like you were a nice, respectable gentleman, don't be such a sniveling little Proud Boy asshole. 

[silent thunder]

I have had no trouble finding teachers, since I stopped assuming I knew what to look for...

 

Turned inward for a time and allowed the waters that were all stirred up by mind and projections and 'everything i knew' to settle without meddling them... then a revolution of sorts occured... i realized my assumptions about life were worthy of doubt.

 

 

and when I reached back out... now I encounter teachers everywhere about me.

 

And the most effective ones, usually aren't human.

 

muddiest waters

left undisturbed by process

rest in clarity

Edited January 24, 2020 by silent thunder
add the haiku

[Zork]

6 hours ago, Boerewors said:

It's easy to kick people when they're down. I guess herd mentality is what one should expect from cowards who need their hands held. 

Edited January 24, 2020 by Zork

[Starjumper]

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Edited January 28, 2020 by Starjumper

[ilumairen]

9 hours ago, Boerewors said:

It's easy to kick people when they're down.

 

You gave exceptional evidence to your claim here when you waited for the individual you had a beef with to experience an ongoing natural disaster, post about said disaster only to be frustrated when a focus was placed on colonialism, and further post he is taking a much needed hiatus from the forum to focus on himself and what he can do to assist with the suffering all around him to start your own kicking.

 

Good show mate. Now if only you could recognize this complaint of yours is exactly the projection the guys are ribbing you about..

 

 

9 hours ago, Boerewors said:

I guess herd mentality is what one should expect from cowards who need their hands held. 

 

Thus writes the coward who only piped up when his chosen target was not even present. 

[Starjumper]

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Edited January 28, 2020 by Starjumper

[Nungali]

12 hours ago, Boerewors said:

 

I also think it's ironic how certain kinds of discrimination are apparently prohibited, and yet ethnic discrimination against other minorities are openly welcome. How tolerant and progressive of you. 

 

No ...    white people are not a minority  and other white people are not  'other' minorities .  And white people can validly make criticisms, observations, and prejudices about other white people without it being ethnic discrimination.  *

 

Canadians Australians and Brits  are not ethnically different .  We are all a mix of different types . 

 

"Canadians , Australians and Brits "   are terms of nationality , not ethnicity .

 

*  Thats why a black person can make a n***** joke , and feely say  <that word> .

 

But apparently there is ONE occasion when it is okay for a white person to say the ' N word ' . I know this because a black person told me so .

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

12 hours ago, Boerewors said:

It's easy to kick people when they're down. I guess herd mentality is what one should expect from cowards who need their hands held. 

 

Yeah ... real easy isn't  it ?

 

Nearly as easy as starting up an argument and posing a whole lot of questions and criticisms at someone who just took  stress leave and isn't here .

 

Interesting that you call people who question immortality 'cowards' .   I wonder what drives your quest for immortality ?  It doesnt really matter as you, for sure, like the rest of us are going to die .  And this isnt some hope or promise or religious belief , it reality, for EVERY LIVING BEING on this planet .

 

 

Thats why no one can demonstrate immortality for you . So why complain about it .

 

 Me , personally ,  I want to fly  I want to FLY ! 

 

Can you prove some spiritual authority has flying abilities? Scientifically that is? If so please provide evidence. Until then spirituality doesn't need gurus or masters telling people what to do when they can't fly .

 

You don't have authority, if you cant fly. Nobody is an authority on spiritual matters, not some Celestial Master, not the Dalai Lama, not the Pope, nobody, because they cant fly . . So sorry to burst your superiority bubble. Guess who the real supremacist is, the guy kissing some false authority's ass so he can talk about his supposed authority, but none of them can fly . You can't go flying  by holding your masters hand.

 

[Nungali]

3 hours ago, ilumairen said:

 

You gave exceptional evidence to your claim here when you waited for the individual you had a beef with to experience an ongoing natural disaster, post about said disaster only to be frustrated when a focus was placed on colonialism, and further post he is taking a much needed hiatus from the forum to focus on himself and what he can do to assist with the suffering all around him to start your own kicking.

 

Good show mate. Now if only you could recognize this complaint of yours is exactly the projection the guys are ribbing you about..

 

 

 

Thus writes the coward who only piped up when his chosen target was not even present. 

 

 

Yeah !     and not only that  .......   < grunt >   ......   < scape >  ......   < drag >   ......

 

 

Give me a hand will ya    -   to drag this thing over and point it at him  .

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

What that music coming out of it ?

 

Any suggestions ? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gendao]

On 1/22/2020 at 2:40 AM, Walker said:

@sean seemed to imply on the "No More Right-wing Bullshit" thread that this forum is not a place for "crypto-antisemitic conspiracy-theorists."

 

I consider @gendao one of those.

 

I have also reported his repeated anti-Christian ranting, which I see as belonging to the same spectrum of behavior as the racism and transphobia that was explicitly banned. I say this despite the fact that I am no fan of most of Christianity's iterations.

 

I agree that Gendao needs to stop swooping into thread after thread to "decolonialize" us with stupid, prejudiced, David Icke-esque caca. In a world with no such thing as a perfect option, I don't see why not to ban him. He doesn't seem to learn anything here, he hasn't convinced anybody of anything, he makes it so people can't have serious conversations about the very real problem of colonialism, he's a bigot, and seemingly his only supporter is a guy who took fifty pages of arguing to half-assedly admit that he's not really in the MoPai, but even so still continues to refer to himself as a member of the MoPai. Pretty crappy character witness.

1.  LMFAO, or maybe you should report yourself for being an sinophobic, GOP, Trump-sympathizing, PRC/CCP Commie-basher when it comes to China - the opposite of Sean - who is a staunch ANTI-TRUMP, COMMUNIST HARD-LEFTIST?

On 8/9/2019 at 11:52 AM, Walker said:

I have not lived full-time in the US since 2006 and I am quite a bit more anti-CCP than anti-GOP, so I'm one of those people who can see the "right twice a day" part of the ticking clock (hopefully not time bomb) that is Donald Trump. I think the trade war probably needed to happen some way or another (though it is a hamfisted mess), I'm glad he took Taiwanese President Tsai Yingwen's phone call, and I think that whatever you might/should say about them two (and their motives), at least Pence and Pompeo have stood up on the world stage and pointed glaring lights at the ethnic cleansing destroying Uyghur culture in Xinjiang province. Heck, I even go so far as to actually sometimes downright sympathize with Trump when he complains that the media twists his words, because I've seen him quoted in outlets like the Washington Post, the Guardian, and the NYTimes, gone and found the full quote, and then though, "ehhhhhh, he's kinda right." Quite a few times, actually.

On 7/30/2019 at 1:21 PM, sean said:

> What should pro-Trump and other far-right members of the forum do now?

 

You should leave.

 

If you're pro-Trump, I'm asking you to leave this forum. You're not welcome here anymore.

 

If you're right-wing, please leave.

 

We might need a bullet list. Here we go:

• If you're pro-Trump, please leave.
• If you're right-wing, please leave.

(Sidenote: If you're some strange brew of anti-fascist, social anarchist, left-libertarian, or anti-authoritarian, democratic Marxist, socialist or communist infidel, please stay and help me raise hell! ✊ Are there any other leftists here? 👀

So c'mon now, Sean already asked nicely!

 

2.  ZOMG, even Yahweh is facepalming himself right now...

 

FFS, You do realize that CHRISTIANITY is the primary cause for virulent racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc in the world today???

 

Africa is currently the most homophobic continent on the planet. 

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The proposed new law is the latest setback for LGBTI rights in Africa. In May, Kenya’s high court rejected an attempt to repeal colonial-era laws criminalising gay sex.

Homosexuality is illegal in most countries on the African continent. In a handful of states, gay people face life imprisonment or the death penalty. In Uganda, a largely conservative Christian country, homosexual sex is punishable by life imprisonment.

But WHY?  Because of the lingering influence of...*drumroll*...yep, YOU GUESSED it...CHRISTIAN COLONIALISM!!!  Their punishments are literally straight out of the "Holy" Bible!

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Leviticus 20:13 - If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.

Leviticus 19:19 - Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

Which not to mention, also FORBIDS biodiversity and ONLY allows MONOCROPPING...as well as mixing fabrics!  In short, the Bible BANS DIVERSITY down to your f****** SOCKS!!!

 

Fact is, whenever you trace all of these very deepset prejudices and insane beliefs back...most of them stem to the BIBLE.  It was the BLUEPRINT for all these pathogenic ISMS (colonialism, tribal racism, misogynistic sexism, intolerance, Trumpism, etc, etc).  And it IS THE BIGGEST ONGOING (false) CONSPIRACY THEORY/WMD/hate speech/omnicidal cargo cult/mental illness on the planet!!!  And has thus killed probably 58 million - 102 million heathens in Europe and the Americas (through the Spanish Inquisition, Crusades, and colonization) ALONE (to say nothing of all non-human life and the rest of the planet, as well)! 

 

Seriously, this planet was created in 6 days by some "loving" Santa Claus...who human-sacrificed his love child son...that you then must accept to pay for your "sins"...or burn yourself in a holocaust Hell.  All while battling Satan, Lucifer, serpents, heathens, etc, etc.  And it's all infallibly true because...even though all such characters are invisible and undocumented elsewhere...it SAYS SO!  How is THAT NOT the ultimate conspiracy theory???  GIMME A F'N BREAK, ALREADY...

 

So, I am fighting against many of the same things that Sean is...I am just going deeper to the actual TAPROOT and beating HEART OF THE HYDRA for them!  Which lies in early Mesopotamia...

NOW, are any of the tiny gears in your head clicking yet???

 

MegaMind is also simply a rational guy sticking to his guns with a common sense-view of MoPai.  But I can see why that triggers the Hell outta you, too!

On 1/23/2020 at 8:33 AM, Boerewors said:

The very real problem of colonialism, hmmm. Does that extend to Chinese, Indian, and Japanese colonization of others? Does it extend to Turkey having been a colonial nation since the 11th century after they committed genocide against the Byzantines? Or reparations from Mongolia, or North Africa for conquests in Europe? How about Bantu tribes displacing the Khoi people in South Africa? 

 

When are you telling the Turkish to fuck off back to Central Asia then? Or does nativistic ideology only apply when it's at the expense of the white people you hate?

Yes, it does extend, and this topic is worthy of its own thread.  But since I don't want to derail this one any further, the short answer is that if you look at colonization as a spectrum...Christian colonialism in particular is the most massive outlier to the farrrrrrr right with unparalleled, irreversible and ongoing, devastating global impact BY FARRRR.

Edited January 25, 2020 by gendao

[Nungali]

 

 

Gendao , I think most here agree with you about the bad aspects of Christianity and the bad historical record it has . Personally I see an insidious,  negative, suppressive, guilt-trip, programme running through its indoctrination.

 

But anyone new or outside or removed from the dynamics of the ongoing argument between you and EG , after reading your above post would think we are all supporters of Christianity .  The thing is , THAT wasnt the original complaint protest or argument at all . YOU made it that , and that was part of the cause of frustration to EG . I dont know, that might have been your intent ?

 

But as much as this Christian philosophy and religion  go directly against and in opposition to my own philosophy and religion , I dont see how you can push the above 'facts ' regarding suppressions of homosexuals and others in other countries .

 

I mean, look at this :

 

 " Notably, as of 2019, 28 countries recognize same-sex marriage, they are: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Denmark, Ecuador, Finland, France, Germany, Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan, the United Kingdom, the United States and Uruguay.^{[1] "}

 

- now, I would say those countries have a lot of Christians and Christian influence  in them .

 

 

" By contrast, 6 countries effectively impose the death penalty on consensual same-sex sexual acts, with three in Asia (Iran, Saudi Arabia and Yemen) and three in Africa (Nigeria (the northern states), Sudan and Somalia (Jubaland region)). "

 

Are they predominantly Christian , or Moslem ?

 

Religion in Iran. Sunni and Shi'i are the two largest branches of Islam, with the overwhelming majority of Iranians practicing Shi'i Islam. About 90 percent of Iranians practice Shi'ism, the official religion of Iran

 

Nigeria, the most populous African country (with a population of over 200 million in 2018),^[2] is nearly equally divided between Christianity and Islam, though the exact ratio is uncertain.

 

Saudi Arabai - The official form of Islam is Sunni of the Hanbali school, in its Salafi version. According to official statistics, 75–85% of Saudi Arabian citizens are Sunni Muslims, 10–15% are Shia. (More than 30% of the population is made up of foreign workers who are predominantly but not entirely Muslim.)

 

Yemen is an Islamic society. Nearly all Yemenis are Muslims, with approximately 56% belonging to the Shafi'i Sunni school of thought and approximately 44% belonging to the Zaydi Shia school of thought. There are also approximately 1,000 Christians and 50 Jews.

 

 Sudan, with 97% of the country's population adhering to Islam. The vast majority of Muslims in Sudan are Sunni belonging to the Maliki school of Islamic jurisprudence. Protestants are about 5% of the population mainly in the south. Roman Catholics are 3.2%.

 

The major religion in Somalia is Islam. There is a small Christian community in Somalia mainly living amongst Somali Muslims in the Banaadir region.

 

In addition, the death penalty is a possible punishment in 6 other countries: Afghanistan, Brunei, Mauritania, Pakistan, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Iraq has been removed from this list following the elimination of the Islamic State (ISIL/ISIS), it remains as a "de facto" criminalising country due to reports of State prosecution using laws on public indecency, prostitution or others. suppressive, guilt-trip, programme running through its indoctrination.

 

 

Guess what the main religion is in these countries ?

 

 

 

So yes, in answer to your question ;

 

" FFS, You do realize that CHRISTIANITY is the primary cause for virulent racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc in the world today??? "

 

Errrmmmm   ,  no we dont .

 

 

I mean, it might be  ' a'   cause  .....  but certainly not worthy of a ranting , for fuck's sake, bolded, underlined   PRIMARY  triple question mark , a - la - gendao post, cause .

 

So .... what other 'facts' ya got in that  bag of (failed ) tricks of yours ?

 

 

Edited January 25, 2020 by Nungali

[Walker]

19 hours ago, GSmaster said:

He sounds like a person going through spiritual puberty, he denies authority of everyone and makes bold claims, like maximalistic ones.

 

But nobody cares.

 

In the end you either do nothing and rot away in the delusion, or find a teacher as imperfect as he is, and learn atleast something from. 

 

Yep. Luckily he's almost certainly very young. Plenty of time. I don't worry about him being an arrogant little shart (why, I might have been one myself, not so long ago). The part about being arrogant, thinking he's very humble, and reflexively playing the wounded victim? That will take him some time to work through. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Oh, well. I shan't be holding me breath, nor placing any bets in his corner. Time will tell, though.

 

19 hours ago, GSmaster said:

I just remember sometimes what I have gone through to gain the abilities I have.

 

I was betrayed, risked the life, was several times near death, spent hundreds of thousands of dollars.

 

Every time I come on a board there are some people who think that can gain knowledge for free, gain abilities for free, find an immortal perfect master who will never lie and make them immortal, and gain an evidence from him that he is real immortal.

 

The fuck is that some pink fluffy fairy tale?

 

People actually believe that listening to a online lectures can bring forward enlightenment.

 

Any "ability" I have gained is very mundane, limited really to the realm of vastly improving my own health and being able to help others do the same. Even for these things I spent years (and still am) wandering, spent obscene amounts of money, and indeed neared death and faced serious betrayal more than once (I once had to kidnap a corrupt Daoist and his minions after he tried to steal $8000 US from me--this is a true story, and crazy enough, another Dao Bummer was there to help me! Although I haven't seen him post here in years... I guess he's smart enough not to hang out in this hive of scum and villainy ). Actually, it was fun, I enjoyed the adventures, at least in retrospect if not while they unfolded! 

 

But it is true, the chances of any of us getting the things this forum is dedicated to from YouTube are... low. 

Edited January 25, 2020 by Walker

[Walker]

3 hours ago, gendao said:

1.  LMFAO, or maybe you should report yourself for being an anti-Chinese, GOP, Trump-sympathizing, PRC/CCP Commie-basher when it comes to China - the opposite of Sean - who is a staunch ANTI-TRUMP, COMMUNIST HARD-LEFTIST?

So c'mon now, Sean already asked nicely!

 

2.  ZOMG, even Yahweh is facepalming himself right now...

 

FFS, You do realize that CHRISTIANITY is the primary cause for virulent racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc in the world today???

 

Africa is currently the most homophobic continent on the planet. 

But WHY?  Because of the lingering influence of...*drumroll*...yep, YOU GUESSED it...CHRISTIAN COLONIALISM!!!  Their punishments are literally straight out of the "Holy" Bible!

Which not to mention, also FORBIDS biodiversity and ONLY allows MONOCROPPING...as well as mixing fabrics!  In short, the Bible BANS DIVERSITY down to your f****** SOCKS!!!

 

Fact is, whenever you trace all of these very deepset prejudices and insane beliefs back...most of them stem to the BIBLE.  It was the BLUEPRINT for all these pathogenic ISMS (colonialism, tribal racism, misogynistic sexism, intolerance, Trumpism, etc, etc).  And it IS THE BIGGEST ONGOING (false) CONSPIRACY THEORY/WMD/hate speech/omnicidal cargo cult/mental illness on the planet!!!  And has thus killed probably 58 million - 102 million heathens in Europe and the Americas (through the Spanish Inquisition, Crusades, and colonization) ALONE (to say nothing of all non-human life and the rest of the planet, as well)! 

 

Seriously, this planet was created in 6 days by some "loving" Santa Claus...who human-sacrificed his love child son...that you then must accept to pay for your "sins"...or burn yourself in a holocaust Hell.  All while battling Satan, Lucifer, serpents, heathens, etc, etc.  And it's all infallibly true because...even though all such characters are invisible and undocumented elsewhere...it SAYS SO!  How is THAT NOT the ultimate conspiracy theory???  GIMME A F'N BREAK, ALREADY...

 

So, I am fighting against many of the same things that Sean is...I am just going deeper to the actual TAPROOT and blueprint for them!  Which lies in early Mesopotamia...

 

NOW, are any of the tiny gears in your head clicking yet???

 

MegaMind is also simply a rational guy sticking to his guns with a common sense-view of MoPai.  But I can see why that triggers the Hell outta you, too!

Yes, it does extend, and this topic is worthy of its own thread.  But since I don't want to derail this one any further, the short answer is that if you look at colonization as a spectrum...Christian colonialism in particular is the most massive outlier to the farrrrrrr right with unparalleled, irreversible and ongoing, devastating global impact BY FARRRR.

 

Oh, I see, I see. You got jealous because we stopped talking about you and now we're talking about the other kid. 

 

Ok, ok, let me read all that.

 

Ah, ah, I see. Right, I had almost forgotten, that's why Earl Grey can't stand you.

 

And just imagine, you made it all so clear, he didn't even have to come back here and explain it all over again!

 

People may say many things about you, Gendao, but don't let them ever say you're not a Helpful Harry.

[liminal_luke]

1 hour ago, Walker said:

 

Any "ability" I have gained is very mundane, limited really to the realm of vastly improving my own health and being able to help others do the same. Even for these things I spent years (and still am) wandering, spent obscene amounts of money, and indeed neared death and faced serious betrayal more than once (I once had to kidnap a corrupt Daoist and his minions after he tried to steal $8000 US from me--this is a true story, and crazy enough, another Dao Bummer was there to help me! Although I haven't seen him post here in years... I guess he's smart enough not to hang out in this hive of scum and villainy ). Actually, it was fun, I enjoyed the adventure. But it is true, the chances of any of us getting the things this forum is dedicated to from YouTube are... low. 

 

I suspect you are understating your abilities there a wee bit, Walker.  Let´s say I´m living in some Mexican pueblito about to be robbed at gun point by local banditos when Taomeow, Silent Thunder, or yourself steps out from behind the cactus and saves my ass.  That kind of golden synchronicity is the mark of serious juju!  

Edited January 25, 2020 by liminal_luke

[gendao]

5 hours ago, Nungali said:

Gendao , I think most here agree with you about the bad aspects of Christianity and the bad historical record it has . Personally I see an insidious,  negative, suppressive, guilt-trip, programme running through its indoctrination.

 

But anyone new or outside or removed from the dynamics of the ongoing argument between you and EG , after reading your above post would think we are all supporters of Christianity .  The thing is , THAT wasnt the original complaint protest or argument at all . YOU made it that , and that was part of the cause of frustration to EG . I dont know, that might have been your intent ?

 

But as much as this Christian philosophy and religion  go directly against and in opposition to my own philosophy and religion , I dont see how you can push the above 'facts ' regarding suppressions of homosexuals and others in other countries .

 

I mean, look at this :

 

 " Notably, as of 2019, 28 countries recognize same-sex marriage, they are: Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Denmark, Ecuador, Finland, France, Germany, Greenland, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Taiwan, the United Kingdom, the United States and Uruguay.^{[1] "}

 

- now, I would say those countries have a lot of Christians and Christian influence  in them .

 

 

" By contrast, 6 countries effectively impose the death penalty on consensual same-sex sexual acts, with three in Asia (Iran, Saudi Arabia and Yemen) and three in Africa (Nigeria (the northern states), Sudan and Somalia (Jubaland region)). "

 

Are they predominantly Christian , or Moslem ?

 

Religion in Iran. Sunni and Shi'i are the two largest branches of Islam, with the overwhelming majority of Iranians practicing Shi'i Islam. About 90 percent of Iranians practice Shi'ism, the official religion of Iran

 

Nigeria, the most populous African country (with a population of over 200 million in 2018),^[2] is nearly equally divided between Christianity and Islam, though the exact ratio is uncertain.

 

Saudi Arabai - The official form of Islam is Sunni of the Hanbali school, in its Salafi version. According to official statistics, 75–85% of Saudi Arabian citizens are Sunni Muslims, 10–15% are Shia. (More than 30% of the population is made up of foreign workers who are predominantly but not entirely Muslim.)

 

Yemen is an Islamic society. Nearly all Yemenis are Muslims, with approximately 56% belonging to the Shafi'i Sunni school of thought and approximately 44% belonging to the Zaydi Shia school of thought. There are also approximately 1,000 Christians and 50 Jews.

 

 Sudan, with 97% of the country's population adhering to Islam. The vast majority of Muslims in Sudan are Sunni belonging to the Maliki school of Islamic jurisprudence. Protestants are about 5% of the population mainly in the south. Roman Catholics are 3.2%.

 

The major religion in Somalia is Islam. There is a small Christian community in Somalia mainly living amongst Somali Muslims in the Banaadir region.

 

In addition, the death penalty is a possible punishment in 6 other countries: Afghanistan, Brunei, Mauritania, Pakistan, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Iraq has been removed from this list following the elimination of the Islamic State (ISIL/ISIS), it remains as a "de facto" criminalising country due to reports of State prosecution using laws on public indecency, prostitution or others. suppressive, guilt-trip, programme running through its indoctrination.

 

Guess what the main religion is in these countries ?

 

So yes, in answer to your question ;

 

" FFS, You do realize that CHRISTIANITY is the primary cause for virulent racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc in the world today??? "

Yes, it still is...because Christianity is still far more influential in population numbers and global spheres of influence.

And LGBT rights were all won only in those industrialized countries after long, protracted fights with Christians (not BECAUSE of them).

 

But the fact that Islam comes in 2nd here in the Homophobia Olympics doesn't refute my point...it REINFORCES IT.  Because OF COURSE, it is another one of the Unholy Trinity of Abrahamic/Anunnaki cargo cults hailing from early Mesopotamia.  Of f'n course!  Gee, thanks Abe for destroying the planet!!!

Edited January 25, 2020 by gendao

[Nungali]

46 minutes ago, gendao said:

Yes, it still is...because Christianity is still far more influential in population numbers and global spheres of influence.

And LGBT rights were all won only in those industrialized countries after long, protracted fights with Christians (not BECAUSE of them).

 

But the fact that Islam comes in 2nd here in the Homophobia Olympics doesn't refute my point...it REINFORCES IT.  Because OF COURSE, it is another one of the Unholy Trinity of Abrahamic/Anunnaki cargo cults hailing from early Mesopotamia.  Of f'n course!  Gee, thanks Abe for destroying the planet!!!

 

I see , you are now claiming that because the majority of  'Christian countries' are less homophobic   it validates  your  statement of :

"" FFS, You do realize that CHRISTIANITY is the primary cause for virulent racism, homophobia, transphobia, etc in the world today??? "

 

because

 

" Christianity is still far more influential in population numbers and global spheres of influence. "

 

So, because they are less homophobic they are the primary cause becasue they have more influence in the world  than others .

 

 

 

....

 

 

 

 

And they won because of fights with Christians    .... so that makes Christians the cause  does it ?

 

AND   !  If you had said     'Abrahamic   religion s '   instead of   'Christianity' ,   in the first place  .... we would not be even having this conversation  -  genius  !

 

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Oh yeah , and you  sorta skimmed past the death penalty stuff .    Isn't gay people being put to death a strong enough point for you to take into account ?

 

 

Or do you just ignore those mostly Islamic countries that put gays to death as it doesn't support your attempt at 'proving stuff '  ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Nungali]

 

[moment]

14 hours ago, gendao said:

Yes, it still is...because Christianity is still far more influential in population numbers and global spheres of influence.

And LGBT rights were all won only in those industrialized countries after long, protracted fights with Christians (not BECAUSE of them).

 

But the fact that Islam comes in 2nd here in the Homophobia Olympics doesn't refute my point...it REINFORCES IT.  Because OF COURSE, it is another one of the Unholy Trinity of Abrahamic/Anunnaki cargo cults hailing from early Mesopotamia.  Of f'n course!  Gee, thanks Abe for destroying the planet!!!

 

Putting one large religion over another is a lot like whacking off.  It is isolating and the only person that is getting any real return on it, is the wang manipulator themselves.

Edited January 25, 2020 by moment

[CloudHands]

You have been trolled away guys. The topic was : is gendao worth having here !

[moment]

27 minutes ago, CloudHands said:

You have been trolled away guys. The topic was : is gendao worth having here !

 

But, we are having so much fun messing with gendao.  OOPS! I guess we are proving he has worth.

Edited January 25, 2020 by moment

[gendao]

13 hours ago, Nungali said:

AND   !  If you had said     'Abrahamic   religion s '   instead of   'Christianity' ,   in the first place  .... we would not be even having this conversation  -  genius  !

Oh yeah , and you  sorta skimmed past the death penalty stuff .    Isn't gay people being put to death a strong enough point for you to take into account ?

Or do you just ignore those mostly Islamic countries that put gays to death as it doesn't support your attempt at 'proving stuff '  ?

No, Christians colonized faarrr more landmasses/people on the planet than Muslims, to begin with - North & South America, Australia, Europe, and parts of Africa and Asia.  Whereas Sharia law exists largely only in the Islamic homelands of the Mid East, and some outposts in Africa and Asia today.  So historically and in present-day, Christians have had far more people all over the world under their DOMINION (where the aboriginal heathens were killed or forcefully converted).

The Bible is also no less severely homophobic than Sharia law...it's just that Christians have softened on enforcing it as much due to OUTSIDE SECULAR pressure over the last century.  Again, any credit for LGBT tolerance in these countries goes to non-Christians...NOT Christians!

 

Yes, it's pretty simple.  Homophobia rises proportionally with Christian fundamentalism.  Duh Bible say you must kill gay guys (but not hot lesbians!), so the more you believe in duh Bible, duh more you wanna kill gays, capisce!

 

And homophobia as a whole still encompasses a lot more than just capital punishment.  LGBT people can still suffer from a lot of bigotry, even if short of the death sentence, lol.  IOW, the death sentence is certainly A...but not the ONLY sole, reductionist metric for homophobia...

 

If that were the case, then I would agree that Islamic Sharia law has Christianity beat, today.  But, if you consider the whole spectrum of homophobia and the far greater global populations affected by it - then Christianity still has Islam beat.

 

And I have called out Abrahamic religions as a whole before...which were included in my diagnosis of the problem here as stemming from early Mesopotamia. 

23 hours ago, gendao said:

I am just going deeper to the actual TAPROOT and beating HEART OF THE HYDRA for them!  Which lies in early Mesopotamia...

But this scope is actually even more accurate, because it includes not only the Abrahamic religions, but also all the other similar batsh*t-crazzzzy, holocaustic cults like those worshipping Baal, Moloch, etc, etc...

 

However, I continue to single out Christianity because that was the largest, surviving head of the hydra that actually colonized the entire planet. 

 

Anyhow, ultimately your Islamic whataboutism is still an apologetic Christian deflection.  The real baseline default to compare Christianity to is not its close kissing cousin, but all the NON-ABRAHAMIC/MESOPOTAMIAN/ANUNNAKI forms of spirituality around the world that it had forcibly and violently replaced.  Ones that revered the whole circle of life and had an ongoing, personal Q & A with the Great Mystery through direct experience...rather than a verrrrrryyyy sketchy narrative superimposed upon it.

 

I mean, if ancient aliens are such a ridiculous conspiracy theory...then what do you think about a theory based upon an all-powerful, invisible being, angels, and demons by comparison?

Edited January 25, 2020 by gendao

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, CloudHands said:

You have been trolled away guys. The topic was : is gendao worth having here !

 

Of course he is !

 

You would not want to take our fun away would you ?

[Nungali]

36 minutes ago, gendao said:

No, Christians colonized faarrr more landmasses/people on the planet than Muslims, to begin with - North & South America, Australia, Europe, and parts of Africa and Asia.  Whereas Sharia law exists largely only in the Islamic homelands of the Mid East, and some outposts in Africa and Asia today. 

 

It is the countries with Sharia law that actually persecute them , it the countries with Sharia law that do not allow secular incursions into their law making . Its countries that have sharia law that execute people in the street .

 

You might go on world population numbers but I am going on the nuer of innocents whipped beaten and killed .

 

are you being a deliberate idiot here ?

 

 

 

36 minutes ago, gendao said:

The Bible is also no less severely homophobic than Sharia law...it's just that Christians have softened on enforcing it as much due to OUTSIDE SECULAR pressure over the last century.  Again, any credit for LGBT tolerance in these countries goes to non-Christians...NOT Christians!

 

Of course ... thats what I meant about less of it happening in Christian countries that DO NOT have Sharia law becasue they allow secular input into law making .

 

I am wondering if you are really serious here ?

 

 

 

36 minutes ago, gendao said:

 

Yes, it's pretty simple.  Homophobia rises proportionally with Christian fundamentalism.

 

any type of fundamentalism I would say .

 

36 minutes ago, gendao said:

 

And homophobia as a whole still encompasses a lot more than just capital punishment.  LGBT people can still suffer from a lot of bigotry, even if short of the death sentence, lol. 

 

W .... T ..... F  ?

 

Did you just  LOL at   LGBT people getting a death sentence for being gay  !  ?

 

 

 

 

 

36 minutes ago, gendao said:

 

 

IOW, the death sentence is certainly A...but not the ONLY sole, reductionist metric for homophobia...

 

WOW  ... its a pretty 'serious' one !

 

36 minutes ago, gendao said:

 

If that were the case, then I would agree that Islamic Sharia law has Christianity beat, today.  But, if you consider the whole spectrum of homophobia and the far greater global populations affected by it - then Christianity still has Islam beat.

 

And I have called out Abrahamic religions as a whole before...which were included in my diagnosis of the problem here as stemming from early Mesopotamia. 

But this scope is actually even more accurate, because it includes not only the Abrahamic religions, but also all the other similar batsh*t-crazzzzy, holocaustic cults like those worshipping Baal, Moloch, etc, etc...

 

However, I continue to single out Christianity because that was the largest, surviving head of the hydra that actually colonized the entire planet. 

 

Anyhow, ultimately your Islamic whatboutism is still an apologetic Christian deflection.

 

BULLSHIT Gendao !  I clearly wrote back there what I thought about it ;

 

" Gendao , I think most here agree with you about the bad aspects of Christianity and the bad historical record it has . Personally I see an insidious,  negative, suppressive, guilt-trip, programme running through its indoctrination "

 

'apologist' am I ?

 

- wanker !

 

 

 

 

 

36 minutes ago, gendao said:

 

  The real baseline default to compare Christianity to is not its close kissing cousin, but all the NON-ABRAHAMIC/MESOPOTAMIAN/ANUNNAKI forms of spirituality around the world that it had forcibly and violently replaced.  Ones that revered the whole circle of life and had an ongoing, personal Q & A with the Great Mystery through direct experience...rather than a verrrrrryyyy sketchy narrative superimposed upon it.

 

I mean, if ancient aliens are such a ridiculous conspiracy theory...then what do you think about a theory based upon an all-powerful, invisible being, angels, and demons by comparison?

 

Stupid and childish  , thats what I think about it .

 

Can you get it through that thick skull of yours yet that I am not a Christian nor do I like it or support it  ?

 

All you can seem to do, if someone criticises yur mostly stupid theories is to point and

 

" Christian ! Christian !   He must be a Christian becasue he will not accept the BS dribbling out my mouth ! "

[gendao]

1 hour ago, Nungali said:

You might go on world population numbers but I am going on the nuer of innocents whipped beaten and killed .

Did you just  LOL at   LGBT people getting a death sentence for being gay  !  ?

Can you get it through that thick skull of yours yet that I am not a Christian nor do I like it or support it  ?

Yes, well I'm judging by the full spectrum of homophobia and in sheer numbers...while you are clearly measuring by extremely violent acts of homophobia only.

Although I already said that I would agree with you IF it were by that sole metric only.

But given how Christianity and Islam are basically half-sibling rivals, it's a moot point, anyways.

And I was laughing at your supposition that raises the bar for homophobia to killing...not the killing itself.

That's like saying a country is not racist if they're no longer lynching some races.

I know you're just playing dumb, though...errr, rrrright?

I also know that you're not Christian...but you don't need to be Christian to be a Christian apologetic.

Hope that clears everything up now?

OK, now time to get out of our heads and shake it out, SHAKE IT OUTTTT!!!!  DON'T TALK LIKE A MADMAN, DANCE LIKE ONE!  The sheer amount of unprocessed trauma in this thread is absolutely volcanic and what is SUPERCHARGING all this hair-splitting shadowboxing by proxy.  Shadow work would be the prescription, but even shadow work is really a misnomer because considering such aspects as shadows is the problem to begin with.  Authentic Truth Work is what we all need, here.  And that truth can only be known intellectually secondhand, experientially felt firsthand, and become/unbecome zerohand when the doing replaces the doer.

Edited January 25, 2020 by gendao