Can anybody scan my chakras please?

[Nungali]

54 minutes ago, SirPalomides said:

I cannot even wrap my head around the insanity described in that post. That the person in question offers to put it “in context” rather than denying it happened is downright horrifying.

 

Like his  fumbled attempt t trying to explain away  'violate '  .

[Earl Grey]

I had experience with a pedophile predator before. He used the “Well, I work with youth and am on the board of education, nobody would ever unwillingly be taken advantage of, and people trust me.”

 

He was a slimeball who used false sincerity and professionalism to appear nice and calm as his victims blew up and gaslit all of them.

 

Sounds like Jeff here.

 

Yes, I may have once said I respect him and stay in my lane as he stays in his, but after compelling evidence that is also now publicly shared here, there can be no tolerance. He is a predator, a liar, and full of delusions of grandeur while talking about concepts he and his flock don’t even understand.

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, SirPalomides said:

Based on the way Jeff is presenting himself on this thread I find it wholly believable. 

 

Indeed .  Even though I hardly know either Jeff or Ilumairen  ,   I 'know them'  from  'reading'  them  , I mean here physically  reading . 

 

Never have I felt  or read a  diversion, shifty answer,  etc.  from Ilumairen  ,  here, Jeff has pretty much ruined his reputation (if he ever had one )  by the way he responded here . 

[Nungali]

1 hour ago, ilumairen said:

 

I'm not sure what you believe is explainable, or why you believe you have some authority to rewrite her experience with your own narrative.. i.e. gaslight a woman who feels herself to have already been tormented by her interactions with you. 

 

You count on the pity of the "weak"... putting a passage from the Book of the Law in a stunning context. I'll look for the quote later, unless @Nungali knows which I'm referring to..

 

 

I have had more than one passage from that book reveal itself before in 'stunning context' . 

 

I  think I know the passage you mean but cannot quote it .    I will leave it up to you .

 

Regarding  'the pity of the weak'   ,  I  will address  the 'weak'  though ;

 

" 12. Remember that unbalanced force is evil; that unbalanced severity is but cruelty and oppression; but that also unbalanced mercy is but weakness which would allow and abet Evil "

 

- Liber Librae

 

[gendao]

2 hours ago, ilumairen said:

@gendao, cold reads are amazingly simple, having difficulties with connecting with others is a very common issue, and also lays the ground work and testing for the potential interactions with Jeff as the blonde with big boobs.

Lol, well it doesn't excuse his actions...but I feel a bit sad for him if he has so much shame about wanting to be like Bruce Jenner...that he has to escape into a remote outlet and manipulate women into fulfilling this fantasy for him.

Because it's not really your particular hang-ups that are the problem, it's any shame/guilt/emotional resistance you have to them that create the resistors in your sexual circuitry.

And coming from a (Black Magic Cannibalistic Blood-Sacrifice Cargo Cult) CHRISTIANUNNAKI background (OFC), he must feel IMMENSE SHAME for having these desires...

This creates a SHAME-MAN/SHAM-MAN...rather than a true SHAMAN.

This public outing could be part of his healing, though...if he can fully embrace his nonjudgmental reptilian/Shakti/Kundalini core and release all shame in his game.

 

Just drop all your "spiritual man preconceived notions & pretentions" and go HAM full-on Pam Anderson, who gives a f***, man?

Edited February 8, 2020 by gendao

[Bindi]

14 minutes ago, gendao said:

Lol, well it doesn't excuse his actions...but I feel a bit sad for him if he has so much shame about wanting to be like Bruce Jenner...that he has to escape into a remote outlet and manipulate women into fulfilling this fantasy for him.

Because it's not really your particular hang-ups that are the problem, it's any shame/guilt/emotional resistance you have to them that create the resistors in your sexual circuitry.

And coming from a (Black Magic Cannibalistic Blood-Sacrifice Cargo Cult) CHRISTIANUNNAKI background (OFC), he must feel IMMENSE SHAME for having these desires...

This creates a SHAME-MAN/SHAM-MAN...rather than a true SHAMAN.

This public expose could be part of his healing, though...if he can fully embrace his nonjudgmental reptilian/Shakti/Kundalini core and release all shame in his game.

 

Just go HAM full-on Pam Anderson, who gives a f***, man?

Thanks for contributing this possibility gendao. Agreed we all need to do our own shadow work, not project our shadow on those around us. Fully embracing the shadow core within ourselves is alchemy at its finest!

[Nungali]

38 minutes ago, gendao said:

....

 

Just drop all your "spiritual man preconceived notions & pretentions" and go HAM full-on Pam Anderson, who gives a f***, man?

 

Hey ... you leave ' my Pammie '  out if this . "  

[gendao]

22 minutes ago, Bindi said:

Thanks for contributing this possibility gendao. Agreed we all need to do our own shadow work, not project our shadow on those around us. Fully embracing the shadow core within ourselves is alchemy at its finest!

Well yes, and look at the massive shame tsunami getting reflected back on him now.  That's actually all the shame that he has repressed within himself.

First by denial and spiritual escapism...becoming "holier and holier"...in an attempt to "negate" his "shameful" reptilian desires.

Which may have seemed to work for a while...until his serpent still crept back in and reared its head again in his extradimensional realms.

No, you become HOLY by becoming WHOLE.  By being YOU, the whole SHEBANG, buddy, spare none!

This is real ZHENGONG/NEIGONG - the brutal path of honest authenticity.

 

(Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel this white starburst in my gut now, and it seems to just blow.the.fvck out of my mind...whenever I focus on it?  It is that supercreative, superluminal essence.  The sexual lifeforce.  The Divine Madness!)

Edited February 8, 2020 by gendao

[Nungali]

But there might be something you dont understand Gendao . And it might be what I have always had trouble understanding .

 

It might not just be that   he has to :  "... escape into a remote outlet and manipulate women into fulfilling this fantasy for him. "

 to achieve the apparent ends  of the fantasy. It might be that he wants to "  escape into a remote outlet and manipulate women into fulfilling this fantasy for him. "    this  might be the main part of,   or at lest 50%  of  the  'drive'  , not just a method of achieving the end  

 

Spoiler

I mean , I know some women that would willingly play that game - for fun         

 

But where is the sneaky subterfuge , controlling, manipulating,   relationship-via-internet weirdness in THAT  ?  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Bindi]

You know, in the interests of setting the record straight, many men have been made to feel equally as uncomfortable when Jeff has asked them to visualise him as a busty blonde, in fact I initially thought this was his target audience, probably because men were actually talking about it (privately) at first. All men? It doesn’t seem so. Only some, perhaps when he meets a likely prospect. I’ve never heard of Jeff having an extended internet/astral affair with a man though. 
 

 

 

 

[gendao]

^^ People usually take the path of least resistance.

Generally, most people don't bother with jumping through extra hoops if they can get the same result far more easily without it.  I mean, if anything, people are even more prone to take shortcuts, rather than the more advisable route.

Edited February 8, 2020 by gendao

[Bindi]

9 hours ago, Jeff said:

Bindi - This post is new to me, and have not ever had a chance to respond,

 

from the Living unbound site:

 

You read my post that was deleted.  I found out 3 other people experienced what I experienced.  I had to say something.

 

Ignore it.  Hide it.  Pretend I'm playing a game.

 

You better know what the heck you are doing with these energy interactions!  And inform people.

 

And don't tell me I didn't write my post.  WTF?

 

I'm done here.

And Jeff’s response on the LU site:

 

...there is no desire to hide anything here.  If you want, I would be happy the discuss with the mod team about unhiding your old post (and also my response to it).  Just let me know, as this back and forth stuff just seems silly to me.

 

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When this issue came up on living unbound, you Jeff state categorically you have not only seen her hidden post but actually responded to it, and apparently your response was hidden as well. Yet your first response here indicated that you had never seen her post before, and had specifically not had a chance to respond. 
 

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but I sure hope you asked her for her permission first to post it here. 

 

Edited February 8, 2020 by Bindi

[thursday]

I had a reading/scan from Jeff a few years ago, and it wasn't sexually themed. He did do some sort of energy work (a hug) that I could notice,  but I don't know if it was beneficial at the time. Looking back now, reading some of the comments in this thread (other people's experiences), it makes sense that I didn't notice much positive from it afterwards and that his reading to my question(s) didn't make sense at the time either. I did appreciate the help and was polite, even if it didn't make sense. Having said that, I feel sorry that such sad things happened to people in the past and hope that he regrets and that he moved on in another direction.

[Wizz]

Hey Jay78 I already scanned your chakras as I thought the name of the topic implied you are asking for it and I was curious about it and from what I can tell (even before anyone wrote anything yet on the topic) your 3rd Power Chakra is your strongest Chakra or what I would call your asset. All of your other chakras seem not much used or rather transparent in color appearance except your Brow Chakra at least at the moment. Your Crown Chakra is a bit under the weather so to speak with some of extraneous colors there but this is the case with most of the people I believe and would assume you are overthinking something.

 

My suggestion would be to educate yourself more on the Chakras and get into it and sort of make them more active, none of them are really blocked and their development already happens from bottom to top as a natural progression of growing up so they are already all developed and active in most humans. This just means they are all open and available for us to explore and the moment manage to access another Energy Body (like the Astral Body) trough our Chakras (which is actually what a Chakra is) then the development of that energy body starts again from the bottom again to the top until it is complete. Its all kundalini energy anyway just in different planes and can go much much further with work and development if intended so. I think of it as a way to develop out multidimensional selves.

 

Just how I go about it.

 

As for Jeff I have met him trough astral dreaming before meeting him here in the waking physical so this might seem unusual but it is how it happened. I noticed a large energy signal trough some of the members here and intended to find out more about the energy and found the source of it trough lucid dreaming. I had as many doubts about Jeff as anyone here but most of what he claimed that made me cringe I actually found out to be true trough my astral encounters with him. I don't consider myself to be part of any group here so I speak only for myself and so far he has helped me numerous times whenever I asked for help so huge respect for that and I know he helped others too and I also know that the people he helped knew he was helping them.

 

As for practices in waking with Jeff I did saw a blonde woman and since it was an opportunity for me to exercise being self controlled I did fondle the boob lol and of course asked my why's prior to it. The clothing was there so I wasn't forced into anything really nor enticed in doing so. No sex bouts for me lol. But to those that actually engaged in astral sex when Jeff asked if you feel for doing so and being ok for it to happen then all I can conclude is that you got what you wanted for whatever reasons behind it, not much point in regretting it now just be honest and clear with yourself how and why. You learn from it and move on which means you are not damaged or the victim and if you suspect someone is doing something you can all confirm it trough astral dreaming there is no way to hide the truth there and everything can be confirmed you can't lie into it since others can confirm it too. This should be where your effort is in honing your skills because if you are expecting Jeff or any guru is responsible for your own work either for money or for free or even worse as if he must do it for whatever reason you believe in I don't really think this is productive for anyone. Be careful with yourself and do your best in doing so all I'm saying.

 

Anyway I don't want to participate in endless discussion about issues in this topic as it just brings more confusion and egomania so this is more of a shout out in response and accordance to the topic itself and I didn't write this to defend Jeff but it was due to recognition and respect I want to give to the act of helping one another and Jeff exactly did just that and I feel its the right thing to do

 

Wish you all well.

 

[Starjumper]

Tsk, tsk, so many cry babies in such a small space,  I'll bet most of them are socialist/dumbocrats too, because it's their nature.

 

Cry babies simply can not take responsibility for their own stupidity.  It seems you criers think everything needs to be done according to your false double standards of what is proper.  You agree to something and then feel stupid later, that's YOUR problem.  Jeff scanned me and wanted a hug, he asked if I was visualizing a busty blond, but I think big tits are disgusting, instead I visualized a slender brunette.  During the hug I radiated a lot of energy from my heart and he said that what I was doing was quite remarkable.  Before the exercise I warned him that he could be in danger from my dragon guardian and he was not concerned about that, indicating good intentions.

 

Let the crying resume.

Edited February 8, 2020 by Starjumper

[Jeff]

Thank you everyone.  In a weird way, this has been very helpful to me.

[ilumairen]

16 minutes ago, Starjumper said:

Tsk, tsk, so many cry babies in such a small space,  I'll bet most of them are socialist/dumbocrats too, because it's their nature.

 

Cry babies simply can not take responsibility for their own stupidity.  It seems you criers think everything needs to be done according to your false double standards of what is proper.  You agree to something and then feel stupid later, that's YOUR problem.  Jeff scanned me and wanted a hug, he asked if I was visualizing a busty blond, but I think big tits are disgusting, instead I visualized a slender brunette.  During the hug I radiated a lot of energy from my heart and he said that what I was doing was quite remarkable.  Before the exercise I warned him that he could be in danger from my dragon guardian and he was not concerned about that, indicating good intentions.

 

Let the crying resume.

 

I'm not sure who you believe is crying here, but even your casually dismissive post serves to confirm what was shared in the deleted and now revealed post. He did 

(even with you) suggest blonde with big boobs; you simply find them disgusting and chose to change the game.

[Jeff]

10 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

 

I'm not sure who you believe is crying here, but even your casually dismissive post serves to confirm what was shared in the deleted and now revealed post. He did 

(even with you) suggest blonde with big boobs; you simply find them disgusting and chose to change the game.

 

Any potential visualization is dependent on the energy level of the person, and their polarity at the time.  Most people do not “see” astrally, so their is no such visualization aspect to such energy flows.

 

All of this has been explained many times, and can be found in my Q&A in personal area.

[liminal_luke]

Jeff may have good and pure intentions.  I can´t say for certain, though some of the things posted certainly look bad for him.  Who knows, maybe some people benefited from their interaction with the busty blonde?  One thing is for sure though: any kind of erotic encounter in a therapeutic setting, even just an energetic one, is fraught with risk. There´s a reason why therapists, for instance, are prohibited from having sex with their clients -- even if a client agrees, even if a client initiates the encounter. 

 

Jeff is certainly not the only spiritual teacher whose been on the hot seat for having sex, astral or no, with his students.  It´s practically an epidemic.  Is it always wrong in every circumstance?  Our culture says yes.  Mostly I say yes too though I have a tiny sliver of doubt.  Part of me wants to believe in the possibility of sexual spiritual healing.  (Guess I´m heretical like that.)  But it´s risky, risky, risky.  Spiritual seekers would do well to exercise extreme caution.

Edited February 8, 2020 by liminal_luke

[ilumairen]

Just now, Jeff said:

 

Any potential visualization is dependent on the energy level of the person, and their polarity at the time.  

 

Yes, I remember, you've judged people's openness and levels by how well they see your blonde and the size of her beasts - biggest boobs being the strongest flow. 

 

 

[Jeff]

1 minute ago, ilumairen said:

 

Yes, I remember, you've judged people's openness and levels by how well they see your blonde and the size of her beasts - biggest boobs being the strongest flow. 

 

 

 

Haha.  No, not the case.  Male and female polarity is more “earthly” level stuff. The two polarities become more one at higher levels. As one moves beyond local body mind, it is more like “light”.

[Jeff]

7 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

Jeff may have good and pure intentions.  I can´t say for certain, though some of the things posted certainly look bad for him.  Who knows, maybe some people benefited from their interaction with the busty blonde?  One thing is for sure though: any kind of erotic encounter in a therapeutic setting, even just an energetic one, is fraught with risk. There´s a reason why therapists, for instance, are prohibited from having sex with their clients -- even if a client agrees, even if a client initiates the encounter. 

 

Jeff is certainly not the only spiritual teacher whose been on the hot seat for having sex, astral or no, with his students.  It´s practically an epidemic.  Is it always wrong in every circumstance?  Our culture says yes.  Mostly I say yes too though I have a tiny sliver of doubt.  Part of me wants to believe in the possibility of sacred spiritual healing.  (Guess I´m heretical like that.)  But it´s risky, risky, risky.

 

All higher energetic interaction has such issues/concerns. An energy dynamic (polarities) are created and the flows hit deep subconscious issues/fears.  As all advanced meditators know, shit comes up.

[Bindi]

58 minutes ago, Jeff said:

Thank you everyone.  In a weird way, this has been very helpful to me.

How has this been helpful to you Jeff?

[ilumairen]

3 minutes ago, Jeff said:

 

Haha.  No, not the case.  Male and female polarity is more “earthly” level stuff. The two polarities become more one at higher levels. As one moves beyond local body mind, it is more like “light”.

 

Not the case?

 

What I wrote is exactly how you explained it to me when I asked why you were soo obsessed with the size of your (the blonde's) boobs.

 

Now it's "not the case"?

 

[Jeff]

1 minute ago, ilumairen said:

 

Not the case?

 

What I wrote is exactly how you explained it to me when I asked why you were soo obsessed with the size of your (the blonde's) boobs.

 

Now it's "not the case"?

 

 

As we discussed at the time, your situation was pretty unique. And even with the hundreds of people I have worked with, I have never seen it again. Also, with the world turning a while back, it is not even possible anymore.