Weather Magick

[ilumairen]

10 minutes ago, Starjumper said:

I saw in my notices at the top of the page that Ilumaren quoted me, but I can't see her posts.  Someone should let her know that she was put on permanent ignore quite a few days ago.

 

Yeah, I disagreed with your assertion the population of the US is iodine deficient, and you blocked me.. 

 

Don't much care, it's a public forum, and I'll still type what I wish - whether you'll be reading it or not. 

 

BTW The "can't see her posts" bit is a tad dishonest, as when someone is blocked you can still click "show post" on any post they make.

 

Ho hum and ladi da..

Edited March 5, 2020 by ilumairen

[cheya]

Ilum, if you do more reading on research done by specialized MDs in this area (Broda Barnes MD, David Brownstein MD, Guy Abraham MD, Jorge Flechas MD for starters), you may find yourself agreeing with SJ on this issue.

 

Or not. But you're not going to get the in-depth understanding from WebMD and the like.

[ilumairen]

Back to the topic:

 

A few years back, while I was still living in Wisconsin, Winter arrived, and the world went white - except my yard. For a few days as I was driving to work I contemplated this, and observed everywhere else I looked was white. Then came the thought, "people are going to start to notice," and ask questions and make assumptions.. 

 

I eventually found my way to, "I've got to stop holding on so tightly," the snow came, and my yard was as lovely and white as the surrounding area. 

 

Does anyone else have similar experience?

 

[Earl Grey]

1 hour ago, ilumairen said:

 

Hi Earl, 

 

I understand the desire to "go to bat" for star, and in the past I often made my own excuses for his behavior toward others. 

 

 

He may have martial skill, but as evidenced by his interactions with others, dating back to the early 2000's, his interpersonal skills are lacking, and while once I was hopeful for growth, all I've seen over the years is the habituated reactions of an over sized persona - quite able to dish it out, but not so able to take it.

 

Perhaps in real life he is the sweety he claims to be, although I've come to suspect this is also part of the persona, and what is suppressed there (in everyday life) comes bubbling out online..

 

If one wishes to act like the biggest asshole in the room, then they shouldn't be surprised when people start to believe they're the biggest asshole in the room and treat them accordingly.. even if they claim to only be trolling and super sweet "irl."

 

 

 

Hey, I’m not defending him so much as I’m saying, “This is Starjumper, no more no less.” 
 

Some people say he has no skill, and that reflects in his attitude, others say he has skill and his attitude has just resigned himself to not giving a damn about what others see. He’s a biker boy with a sailor’s mouth, and while he shares the opinion about Josh with regards to Walker and my own view that self-initiation is iffy at best, the difference is that he’s now focused on Josh as a person rather than what Josh is doing—this I disagree with, even if I see where it might be coming from.
 

It’s a kind of frustration that comes from wanting to keep the well from being poisoned and saving people or educating them, but one thing I catch myself doing is teaching here and most people in life aren’t interested in learning unless they pay you. 

Josh has laid the path that he wishes to drive his jaguar on in his flamboyant attire, and  I made fun of him in the first two pages, as I had already specified on page 4 why we were cynical and defensive: assuming he was arrogant like other self-initiates or power seekers from Heartbreak to boerwoers to lightseeker or Goku. But it turned out he’s just eccentric and flamboyant, and a jolly fellow, so I’ve apologized and welcomed and accepted him, which Starjumper did too initially.

 

Now I do agree with Walker on tradition from a Taoist perspective, and my own values reflect this. However, when I consult the Akashic about people like Josh, the MTLs tell me that he’s one of many people reflecting a change in the spirit world and dynamics of the universe, not just norms and traditions, and it isn’t just because of technology, it’s our species conscious evolution.

 

So while at times I bite my tongue for some people and lash out at others, I’m saying I get Starjumper and I get Josh both: the frustration of maintaining the integrity of tradition and practice for safety and pedigree for the former, and the sincerity of carving one’s own path in spite of conventional or orthodox caveats warning against it for the latter. 
 

As it shows, their personalities come out. I sure wasn’t friendly towards other members here in recent history, but I’m also speaking as someone who is trying to empathize with Starjumper and his frustration without necessarily defending it, because that was offered to me by others who saw my rage here and had patience and understanding. I can only hope Josh takes feedback like from Walker gracefully and Steve can focus on graceful criticism too, given that Josh can modulate his emotions through his weather practice, and Starjumper can use his Taijiquan practice to find emptiness.

Edited March 5, 2020 by Earl Grey

[ilumairen]

5 minutes ago, cheya said:

Ilum, if you do more reading on research done by specialized MDs in this area (Broda Barnes MD, David Brownstein MD, Guy Abraham MD, Jorge Flechas MD for starters), you may find yourself agreeing with SJ on this issue.

 

Or not. But you're not going to get the in-depth understanding from WebMD and the like.

 

I didn't go to WebMD, I went to the American Thyroid Association, and another thyroid specialist I cited in the thread whose name was somewhat inconsequential to me, and quickly forgotten. 

 

But thanks for the reply, and the manner in which you shared in the other thread. It's nice to have actual conversation without the name calling and bullying manner.

[mrpasserby]

6 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

Yeah, me either.. I'd honestly rather talk about the weather. 

I would also like to share in more puns (they made my day) and I will share a general weather working outline. Not being a weather mage and by the law given to me by a iteration of (....): that states (there no free lunches), my methods/efforts for weather production are: to build up the 98% power requirement over several decades of energy storage, then to add 1% focus and 1% (emotional content) at the time of activation. As a independent mage: (I did not call upon any gods, saints, demons for their assistance in the actual).

[Lord Josh Allen]

13 hours ago, Earl Grey said:

 

Is most of your attire custom-tailored? 

Yes, most of my suits are bespoke. Very often, I will commission one-off pieces such as this long purple and orange leather coat. It's the only one of its kind in the world, based on my drawings of the concept. You can see the four directional star symbol on the back, that is a Mayan hieroglyph and zodiac sign called "The Lamat Star" which is a massive part of my spiritual practice. I start by creating a rough concept on paper, I then send it over to a professional 3D model expert and we work together with the tailor to refine the final details. I work with a lot of studios/craftsmen/tailors all over the world to bring my visions to life. I'm not the type of person who would spend a few grand on a Tom Ford suit, if I'm spending that much money I want to make sure I have something nobody else has, a true one of a kind piece. 

[ilumairen]

 

2 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

Some people say he has no skill, and that reflects in his attitude, others say he has skill and his attitude has just resigned himself to not giving a damn about what others see. 

 

Do you honestly see him as not giving a damn? 

 

[Earl Grey]

3 minutes ago, Lord Josh Allen said:

Yes, most of my suits are bespoke. Very often, I will commission one-off pieces such as this long purple and orange leather coat. It's the only one of its kind in the world, based on my drawings of the concept. You can see the four directional star symbol on the back, that is a Mayan hieroglyph and zodiac sign called "The Lamat Star" which is a massive part of my spiritual practice. I start by creating a rough concept on paper, I then send it over to a professional 3D model expert and we work together with the tailor to refine the final details. I work with a lot of studios/craftsmen/tailors all over the world to bring my visions to life. I'm not the type of person who would spend a few grand on a Tom Ford suit, if I'm spending that much money I want to make sure I have something nobody else has, a true one of a kind piece. 

 

Your attire at times seems a little oversized and undersized or a mix of the two, so that’s why I suspected that was a deliberate aesthetic choice.  

 

If I don’t get things custom made because of my odd body proportions for my height, build, facial shape, and hair, I tend to look like a teen even more than when I dress in my usual grunge or 70s punk aesthetic. Had to use a style guide to check because I don’t like dressing like a professional or my physical age at all, and considering facial shape, season, hair, and style takes more time than I care to think about that I would prefer to put towards cultivation or my hobbies instead.

 

You make it work.

[SirPalomides]

5 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

 

 

Do you honestly see him as not giving a damn? 

 

 

I tossed off a remark about him being alone in his cabin and he replied with an itemized list of the livestock that keep him company. Yeah, he gives a damn.

[Earl Grey]

30 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

 

 

Do you honestly see him as not giving a damn? 

 

Maybe he gives a damn about people like Josh doing what Josh is doing, but he doesn’t seem to give a damn about how he expresses it, even if it can be quite harsh...it might work for some people, mostly close students, but Josh is not his student. So I’m not sure if that approach will work, given that public opinion turned against him for it, and he appears to not care about it even if he’s replying to people calling him out.

 

 I think he could write a book of insults and monetize it more than getting worked up here though.

Edited March 5, 2020 by Earl Grey

[moment]

34 minutes ago, mrpasserby said:

I would also like to share in more puns (they made my day) and I will share a general weather working outline. Not being a weather mage and by the law given to me by a iteration of (....): that states (there no free lunches), my methods/efforts for weather production are: to build up the 98% power requirement over several decades of energy storage, then to add 1% focus and 1% (emotional content) at the time of activation. As a independent mage: (I did not call upon any gods, saints, demons for their assistance in the actual).

"I would also like to share in more puns."

 

Since the weather i snow joke:

 

 What kind of shorts do clouds wear?

Thunderwear!

 

Teaching global warming in school is quite a heated subject!

 

 

 

[manitou]

5 hours ago, Starjumper said:

I'm such a pushover in real life.  When I go to town people think I'm such a nice guy, real quiet and shy, you know.  But I hardly ever go into town.  There's just something about this forum that brings out my true self    I won't say what it is about this forum right now cuz people might get trolled.  Maybe later.

 

 

I think it's the anonymity of emoting behind avatars.  I think this venue is wonderful to discover the true feelings of ourselves and others.  And I think that since it's anonymous, people can be much more hurtful online, not having to actually confront someone.  But it's also a display of the character we've developed.  If we take advantage of our avatars to be a jerk, that tells heaps about the person posting.  I think that how we behave on forums such as this are good gauges (or gages?  Gaajuz?) for our own spiritual growth.  If someone's constantly getting into chingazos here, that's pretty telling that there's inner work left to do.  I don't think enlightenment occurs in duality.

[mrpasserby]

I am glad to see that everybody is lightning up.

[doc benway]

7 hours ago, Starjumper said:

I'm such a pushover in real life.  When I go to town people think I'm such a nice guy, real quiet and shy, you know.  But I hardly ever go into town.  There's just something about this forum that brings out my true self    I won't say what it is about this forum right now cuz people might get trolled.  Maybe later.

 

That’s nice to hear about the real you.
When people are anonymous and sitting behind a computer screen they do tend to behave differently - more dismissive, more rude, less understanding, more aggressive. Just look at Facebook and Twitter. It’s nauseating how rude we can be to each other. I’m that way sometimes, far less than I used to be. 

 

I don’t see the angry internet troll as the “true self.” I see it as a more artificial self created by isolation and electronic communication. I think your true self is who you are face to face, in town, wherever, interacting with fellow humans in person. I’d love to know that side of you, and all the other blustery keyboard warriors. 

[Nungali]

17 hours ago, Earl Grey said:

How interesting the first three pages here were hazing for Josh, then jovial welcoming from most of us, then a discussion on self-initiation and traditional learning from Walker, a brief absence, and now the ribbing here on page 20 is no longer directed at Josh but at Starjumper. 

 

If there's any metaphorical weather magic here, it appears that it's the winds of changing fortunes. 

 

If this thread goes to another 20 pages, I wonder what it will look like then. 

 

At the very least, it looks like Josh is a welcome member of the community given that everyone active on the forum has said something that shows their personalities and skills on this thread!

 

Thats becasue , although sailing through stormy weather  Lord Josh did so with   intelligence,  thoughtful answers... and  all without  loosing his smirk  !   Bravo  !

 

Whereas Starjumper ....  well, just look at the ignorant  things he surmises about Shamanism .

 

And his general mood  ....

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 5, 2020 by Nungali

[Nungali]

15 hours ago, ilumairen said:

 

No, no, no. Very few could compete with a man with a "puffed up" chest, so full of his self importance and stature..

 

 

 

 

I guess being a  'teacher ' , alone in the mountains did it.   No one to keep him in line  .....  just a bunch of 'students '  waiting for him to say something significant  ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

8 hours ago, Starjumper said:

I guess you could say that trolling for idiots is a kind of bullying.  I think it's seen as bullying because it works so well.  It's kind of fun, it causes people to show their true natures.  I LIKE it.

 

So, let's see who's next.

 

 

My God !    He doesnt even  realise what is happening here !

 

 

Its like he thinks he is  'winning' .      

 

 

And wants  to  'clean up ' the next person with his  opinionated  'wisdom '   and    'witty comebacks '       

[Nungali]

7 hours ago, Starjumper said:

I'm such a pushover in real life.  When I go to town people think I'm such a nice guy, real quiet and shy, you know.  But I hardly ever go into town.  There's just something about this forum that brings out my true self    I won't say what it is about this forum right now cuz people might get trolled.  Maybe later.

 

 

 

Probably becasue  if you acted the way you do here , in town , in 'real life'    you would get beat up  by the locals .

 

And being a dick here gives you no 'threat of moderation'   ... hence your 'true self' emerging .  

[Nungali]

4 hours ago, Starjumper said:

 

The reason I mentioned it like this is because I lived in the US in the West, and here I live in cattle country; and wizards are like Ninjas, in that they (the real ones) like to blend in with the crowd and not stand out like clowns in costumes.

 

Lard Ass implied that if someone doesn't like man boobs or flat chests then there is nothing else.  But there IS something else, which Lard Ass evidently is unaware of, called a well formed body, like this  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for posting your preferences .  

 

I see  you like your 'cowboy shamans'     ' dressed down '    .

 

 

 

 

[doc benway]

4 hours ago, moment said:

I have to tell you guys, sometimes it feels like this on TDB.

 

 

Which one do you feel like?

[Nungali]

4 hours ago, Starjumper said:

I saw in my notices at the top of the page that Ilumaren quoted me, but I can't see her posts.  Someone should let her know that she was put on permanent ignore quite a few days ago.

 

Thats an old lame internet forum cover up for someone that SAID they where going to ignore someone else - but cant 

 

Like the way you have to refer to me , but not by name , as you should not be reading my posts ... as you 'put me on ignore '

 

but I know you are reading this right now         

[moment]

4 minutes ago, steve said:

 

Which one do you feel like?

 

I'm keeping that to myself

[Nungali]

4 hours ago, ilumairen said:

Back to the topic:

 

A few years back, while I was still living in Wisconsin, Winter arrived, and the world went white - except my yard. For a few days as I was driving to work I contemplated this, and observed everywhere else I looked was white. Then came the thought, "people are going to start to notice," and ask questions and make assumptions.. 

 

I eventually found my way to, "I've got to stop holding on so tightly," the snow came, and my yard was as lovely and white as the surrounding area. 

 

Does anyone else have similar experience?

 

 

 

Only 'naturally '  . I ca drive home and , nothing .  But getting to the last bridge river crossing to my place , the rain can start in one spot ... its like driving into a waterfall .    Another time , a caravan got toatlly smashed by giant hail  250 m from my place  but no hail at  home.

 

But I have a very radical terrain around my place .

[Starjumper]

3 hours ago, manitou said:

I think it's the anonymity of emoting behind avatars.  I think this venue is wonderful to discover the true feelings of ourselves and others.  And I think that since it's anonymous, people can be much more hurtful online, not having to actually confront someone.  But it's also a display of the character we've developed.  If we take advantage of our avatars to be a jerk, that tells heaps about the person posting.  I think that how we behave on forums such as this are good gauges (or gages?  Gaajuz?) for our own spiritual growth.  If someone's constantly getting into chingazos here, that's pretty telling that there's inner work left to do.  I don't think enlightenment occurs in duality.

 

Ya, but after the enlightenment experience thinking resumes once again, and thinking is always dualistic because that's how the mind works.  Your other observations about hiding behind an avatar are good, but I think you noticed how I tend to respond calmly to mature posters and tease the immature ones.

 

Also, it's painfully obvious which ones are lying to themselves all the time.

Edited March 5, 2020 by Starjumper