dwai Posted February 18, 2020 The Sun never fails to amaze, inspire and awe us — the giver of life, light and warmth. And like the outer Sun, the inner sun — Atman, the Self is amazing — without it, there would be no Sun, Earth or in-fact the Entire Universe. http://www.kamakoti.org/shlokas/#gsc.tab=0 Quote PRATAH- SAMARANA - STOTRAM (A Morning Prayer) This is a prayer composed by Sri Adi Shankaracharya consisting of three stanzas in which the mind (manas) speech (vak), and body (kaya) of the individual are sought to be dedicated to the supreme Spirit. The first thoughts, words and actions of everyday exert a great influence on the life of the individual. If they are consecrated and made divine, they will pave the way for spiritual illumination. The prayer at dawn is profoundly significant in that the dawn is the outer symbol of the inner awakening. In these stanzas, Shañkara sets forth also the quintessence of Advaita-Vedánta. The ultimate Reality is Saccidánanda (existence-consciousness-bliss). It is turèya, that which is the reality of the three states of experience and is beyond them. These expressions, however, ought not to be taken literally as descriptive or definitive of Reality. Hence it is that Brahman is indicated by the negative way, as `not this', `not this'. Brahman eludes categorisation; it is not within the limits of ideas and words. The so-called individual soul is non-different from it. The soul is not to be confused with the body mind complex. The elements that constitute the world are but illusory appearances on the basic Reality, even as a shake, a garland, etc., are projections on a rope. As the sun of wisdom rises, these illusions disappear, and the goal of life is reached. प्रातः स्मरामि हृदि संस्फुरदात्मतत्त्वं सच्चित्सुखं परमहंसगतिं तुरीयम् । यत्स्वप्नजागरसुषुप्तिमवैति नित्यं तद्ब्रह्म निष्कलमहं न च भूतसङ्घः ॥१॥ Prátah smarámi hrudi samsphuradátmatattvam saccitsukham paramahamsagatim turèyam yatsvapna jágarasussuptamavaiti nityam tadbrahma niskalamaham na cha bhutasañgha. At dawn I remember the Reality which is the Self, shining brilliantly in the heart, existence-consciousness-happiness, the goal of Paramahamsasannyasins (sages), the Fourth; That which knows always the states of dream, waking and deep-sleep, that Brahman which is partless I am, not the cluster of elements. प्रातर्भजामि मनसा वचसामगम्यं वाचो विभान्ति निखिला यदनुग्रहेण । यन्नेतिनेतिवचनैर्निगमा अवोचं_ स्तं देवदेवमजमच्युतमाहुरग्र्यम् ॥२॥ Pratarbhajámi manasá vacasámagamyam vacho vibhánti nikhilá yadanugrahena yanneti neti vacanair nigamá avocam- stam devadevamajam achyutam áhur agryam. At dawn I sing the praise of That which is unattainable by mind and speech, but by the grace of which all words shine. That which the scriptures declares through the words `not this', `not this'- That God of gods, they say, is unborn and un-changing. प्रातर्नमामि तमसः परमर्कवर्णं पूर्णं सनातनपदं पुरुषोत्तमाख्यम् । यस्मिन्निदं जगदशेषमशेषमूर्तौ रज्ज्वां भुजङ्गम इव प्रतिभासितं वै ॥३॥ Prátarnamami tamasah paramarkavarnam pürnam sanátanapadam purushottamaakhyam yasminnidam jagadaseshamaseshamurtau rajjvaam bhujamgama iva pratibhasitam vai. At dawn I bow to that which is called the Highest Self which is beyond darkness, of the hue of the Sun the ancient goal which is the plenum - That, the residuless form (i.e. the whole) in which the entire universe is made manifest like a serpent in a rope. श्लोकत्रयमिदं पुण्यं लोकत्रयविभूषणम् । प्रातःकाले पठेद्यस्तु स गच्छेत्परमं पदम् ॥४॥ Slokatrayamidam punyam lokatrayavibhusanam pratahkale pathedyastu sa gacchetparamam padam. This meritorious triad of verses, the ornament of the three words - he who reads at the time of dawn goes to the supreme goals. This is the pahala-sruti (description of the fruit) of this Vedantic prayer. It is an eulogy of the prayer whose purpose is to consecrate the thoughts, words, and deeds of the individual so that the final goal may eventually be gained. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted February 18, 2020 You seem to be a man of the morning dear dwai. There is something I wish I can do in my life, experience dawn at the canopy of a tropical old-growth forest. This something I should not do before 50 and I hope this is not going to be a business before that time. Sorry I'm a bit off. I wish you a very good year, taiji pal ! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, CloudHands said: You seem to be a man of the morning dear dwai. There is something I wish I can do in my life, experience dawn at the canopy of a tropical old-growth forest. This something I should not do before 50 and I hope this is not going to be a business before that time. Sorry I'm a bit off. I wasn't much of a morning person but I seem to wake up by 3:30 AM quite frequently 3 minutes ago, CloudHands said: I wish you a very good year, taiji pal ! And you too my friend Spoiler 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustARandomPanda Posted February 20, 2020 On 2/18/2020 at 10:57 AM, dwai said: I wasn't much of a morning person but I seem to wake up by 3:30 AM quite frequently And you too my friend Sadhguru has a video on exactly this. Within a certain geographic latitude if one wakes around 3 am to 4 am naturally (without an alarm clock or other artificial means) one gains maximum benefit from any sadhana done at that time. If you don't naturally wake at this time it means you're a "Book Yogi" (Sadhguru's words, not mine) and sadhana at 3am forward won't gain you any benefit beyond what one naturally gains at other intervals such as sunrise, noon, sunset, etc. The fact you are naturally waking around this time suggests your guru lineage has planted a spiritual 'seed' of some kind in you and it's starting to sprout. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted February 26, 2020 On 19/02/2020 at 3:52 AM, CloudHands said: You seem to be a man of the morning dear dwai. There is something I wish I can do in my life, experience dawn at the canopy of a tropical old-growth forest. This something I should not do before 50 and I hope this is not going to be a business before that time. ... I've got just the place for you ! Near my place , the Great Eastern Divide , mountain range , comes close to the coast , it drops off in an escarpment , you can look east, across the canopy of ancient Gondwanaland rainforest , over the ocean and watch the Sun rise . Or even easy access for the disabled (or just lazy ) on the 'skywalk' up in the canopy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondwana_Rainforests 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted February 26, 2020 On 19/02/2020 at 3:33 AM, dwai said: The Sun never fails to amaze, inspire and awe us — the giver of life, light and warmth. And like the outer Sun, the inner sun — Atman, the Self is amazing — without it, there would be no Sun, Earth or in-fact the Entire Universe. http://www.kamakoti.org/shlokas/#gsc.tab=0 I find this interesting , thanks. Especially the 'attributes' given to sunrise . My practice was to do dawn but also at noon, sunset and midnight ; each 'station of the sun' , with each its own 'attributes' to incorporate into the self . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudHands Posted February 27, 2020 On 26/02/2020 at 2:19 AM, Nungali said: I've got just the place for you ! Near my place , the Great Eastern Divide , mountain range , comes close to the coast , it drops off in an escarpment , you can look east, across the canopy of ancient Gondwanaland rainforest , over the ocean and watch the Sun rise . Or even easy access for the disabled (or just lazy ) on the 'skywalk' up in the canopy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondwana_Rainforests I love you Seriously it could be there I guess this means you have done it right ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted February 27, 2020 53 minutes ago, CloudHands said: I love you Seriously it could be there I guess this means you have done it right ? Yeah . And done my 'dawn remembrance' meditation there . One time, for a partial solar eclipse early morning , that was weird . After the dawn viewing you can descend down a pathway ( again, disabled access - that is cool, if you stuck in a wheel chair, you can still go through the rainforest ) that goes down through the canopy at the first part of the escarpment drop down to the rainforest floor . The path continues amongst rainforest giants , has some wonderful spots for contemplation and eventually goes down to 'Crystal Shower falls' to Rosewood Creek ( and , if so desired, one can go to the coast and make it for an afternoon surf - on the same day . ) 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted February 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Nungali said: Yeah . And done my 'dawn remembrance' meditation there . One time, for a partial solar eclipse early morning , that was weird . After the dawn viewing you can descend down a pathway ( again, disabled access - that is cool, if you stuck in a wheel chair, you can still go through the rainforest ) that goes down through the canopy at the first part of the escarpment drop down to the rainforest floor . The path continues amongst rainforest giants , has some wonderful spots for contemplation and eventually goes down to 'Crystal Shower falls' to Rosewood Creek ( and , if so desired, one can go to the coast and make it for an afternoon surf - on the same day . ) I wish we had an emoticon for "wow" or "mind blown" You my friend are very fortunate to live in such a beautiful and powerful place! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) Indeed ! That is 'just' the well known tourist areas ... you have not seen my house and land yet As well as 'dawn meditations I do many offerings to express thanks and gratitude . But ..... it not all 'fortune' .... I am a Magician, remember . I wanted to ask you what effects the practice in the OP has had for you , but then I realised , probably another question should proceed it ; Have you done it as a practice ie . do you recite / chant those 'dawn' remembrance ' verses, at dawn ? Edited February 28, 2020 by Nungali 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted February 28, 2020 On 21/02/2020 at 3:04 AM, JustARandomPanda said: Sadhguru has a video on exactly this. Within a certain geographic latitude if one wakes around 3 am to 4 am naturally (without an alarm clock or other artificial means) one gains maximum benefit from any sadhana done at that time. If you don't naturally wake at this time it means you're a "Book Yogi" (Sadhguru's words, not mine) and sadhana at 3am forward won't gain you any benefit beyond what one naturally gains at other intervals such as sunrise, noon, sunset, etc. The fact you are naturally waking around this time suggests your guru lineage has planted a spiritual 'seed' of some kind in you and it's starting to sprout. Interesting about time and latitude ! One thing I noticed , I am more libel to ( annoyingly) wake closer to 4 in winter . This time of year, its around 'first light' - around 6 am . In winter at 4 .... soooo dark (and cold) . - I thought it had something to do with TCM 'body clock' ? I am assuming there is an Ayurvedic one ? ... let's see ... Urk ! I would be reversed in the top half : my greatest productivity would be between 8 am and 2 pm . Then lunch . Another thing I noticed, when immersed in my practice constantly , every day . I would 'automatically know ' when time for meditation, summer or winter , if asleep, I would just wake up before dawn , or midnight 'automatically' . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted February 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, Nungali said: Indeed ! As well as 'dawn meditations I do many offerings to express thanks and gratitude . But ..... it not all 'fortune' .... I am a Magician, remember . I wanted to ask you what effects the practice in the OP has had for you , but then I realised , probably another question should proceed it ; Have you done it as a practice ie . do you recite / chant those 'dawn' remembrance ' verses, at dawn ? Not the verses themselves but the remembrance every morning before dawn breaks. Entering into stillness, and silence after the Om. The effect is a deep stillness continuing through my experiences through out the day even when the mind seems to go through extreme perturbations from time to time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted February 28, 2020 So, what are you remembering ? The context of the verses ? [ With ' remembering ' at the '4 quarters' of the Sun , I found the sunset one to be most enlightening and life changing . One of the Sun's attributed, in this system, at sunset is 'joy' . That was a mystery to me for a while , as it also symbolises 'death' . Also its a good 'stop' or end point to the day . I eventually realised, each day of life IS a joy and when its over, we can give thanks , for this day, and for this life. Even in times of intense hardship, it also helps to get one through it 'one day at a time' . The we go into night and 'other things' - which the Ayurvedic clock seems to symbolise with a Moon symbol . The midnight meditation is also very powerful and 'mystical' - the power of the Sun at midnight . ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted February 28, 2020 15 hours ago, Nungali said: So, what are you remembering ? The context of the verses ? What the verses are pointing to 15 hours ago, Nungali said: [ With ' remembering ' at the '4 quarters' of the Sun , I found the sunset one to be most enlightening and life changing . One of the Sun's attributed, in this system, at sunset is 'joy' . That was a mystery to me for a while , as it also symbolises 'death' . Also its a good 'stop' or end point to the day . I eventually realised, each day of life IS a joy and when its over, we can give thanks , for this day, and for this life. Even in times of intense hardship, it also helps to get one through it 'one day at a time' . The we go into night and 'other things' - which the Ayurvedic clock seems to symbolise with a Moon symbol . The midnight meditation is also very powerful and 'mystical' - the power of the Sun at midnight . ] Very nice. Thanks for sharing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustARandomPanda Posted May 3, 2020 I found the Sadhguru video that discusses the latitude/longitude and time of night for optimal "spiritual seed"-sters for Sadhana. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cJVqRUrxok&list=RDCMUCcYzLCs3zrQIBVHYA1sK2sw&index=4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites