Heartbreak Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Eating Meat Will Increase Lust Which Will Inhibit Celibacy Cultivation. The life force and animal breeding consciousness energies of animals will transfer to humans who are meat eaters and this will in turn pull down the consciousness of any cultivators who wish to remain celibate. Simply put the more meat you eat the hornier you will become. Notice how you walk on the streets you will automatically be drawn towards beautiful faces and sexy bodies? It is the energies I tell you. Edited February 19, 2020 by Heartbreak 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anshino23 Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) I disagree. Controlling a weak body might be easier, but you'll also be weaker which has its own set of problems. Vegetarianism and veganism can be hugely detrimental to human health if it's not done right and without the right constitution. Even amongst the Yogis in India, the cow and all its products were heralded for its incredible benefits. So ghee, cow's milk, cheese, and so forth was all eaten en masse. Why? It supports healthy hormonal functioning and strengthens the body. Have a listen here (timestamp: 1:02:18) Edited February 19, 2020 by anshino23 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreak Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, anshino23 said: I disagree. Controlling a weak body might be easier, but you'll also be weaker which has its own set of problems. Vegetarianism and veganism can be hugely detrimental to human health if it's not done right and without the right constitution. Even amongst the Yogis in India, the cow and all its products were heralded for its incredible benefits. So ghee, cow's milk, cheese, and so forth was all eaten en masse. Why? It supports healthy hormonal functioning and strengthens the body. Have a listen here (timestamp: 1:02:18) A weaker body has lesser sexual power than a strong body. Why do cultivators need such a strong body anyway? You ever heard of vegetarian sportsmen? Go google. https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/31/why-nfl-players-and-other-athletes-are-going-vegan.html Edited February 19, 2020 by Heartbreak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pilgrim Posted February 19, 2020 Only if you fail to cook it properly. If you use an instant pot which is a pressure cooker of sorts the extreme heat and pressure causes the otherwise detrimental to cultivation essences to become one with the steam and transformed Into harmless heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Heartbreak said: The life force and animal breeding consciousness energies of animals will transfer to humans... Hi HB, Humans do not need such a transfer because these are also innate in humans ~ life force and breeding consciousness. - Anand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anshino23 Posted February 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, Heartbreak said: A weaker body has lesser sexual power than a strong body. Why do cultivators need such a strong body anyway? You ever heard of vegetarian sportsmen? Go google. https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/01/31/why-nfl-players-and-other-athletes-are-going-vegan.html Heard about PEDs? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earl Grey Posted February 19, 2020 Heartbreak, you really don't know what you're talking about. If you are absolutely certain of yourself, why post these? If you're trying to educate us, a lot of us have systems that contradict everything you say (and science to back it up as well) and some simply agree with your opinion for personal preferences. If you're asking questions, you probably could rephrase what you've stated instead of saying it as an objective and inarguable fact. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Heartbreak said: It is the energies I tell you. Synergy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted February 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Earl Grey said: Heartbreak, you really don't know what you're talking about. If you are absolutely certain of yourself, why post these? If you're trying to educate us, a lot of us have systems that contradict everything you say (and science to back it up as well) and some simply agree with your opinion for personal preferences. If you're asking questions, you probably could rephrase what you've stated instead of saying it as an objective and inarguable fact. Indeed. Inflammation should be the concern instead of worrying about eating meat. If I remember correctly, sugar along with a highly refined carb diet is the main culprit. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earl Grey Posted February 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, ralis said: Indeed. Inflammation should be the concern instead of worrying about eating meat. If I remember correctly, sugar along with a highly refined carb diet is the main culprit. I've actually worked with a friend doing research on such, and by and large, being vegan or vegetarian doesn't guarantee good health. A vegetarian who eats instant ramen is going to die a hell of a lot faster than someone having a grass-fed burger once in a while. The worst things you can have are preservatives, soy, and chemicals in your foods--sadly, a lot of vegan dishes are this way too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirPalomides Posted February 19, 2020 For what it's worth, it is commonly held in the Eastern Orthodox monastic tradition that eating meat encourages lust and other base passions- hence most monastics maintain a vegetarian diet (except fish on feast days). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted February 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Heartbreak said: Lust It is located/activated/... in the the first, second or seventh chakra? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted February 19, 2020 the proper amount and form of protein, minerals, etc. can be had from various plants but it takes some education and study, and thus if done correctly a person can be strong and more healthy because of a great reduction in stress on the body (like with the work of the kidneys) from dealing with the common worldwide over consumption of meat and dairy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alchemystical Posted February 19, 2020 I feel that meat stimulates the lower chakras in the sense that its fuel is "coarse" and is combusted easier there whilst vegetarian approach is more easily processed by all energy centers due to being more "fine". Hard to explain unless you've felt it but there is a definite difference in the way the scales tip depending on what you've been eating as one accentuates the earth connection and the other allows heavenly energies to pour in. Ultimately though this is a moot point as a true cultivator can modulate his awareness in all scenarios and a genuine adept goes out of his way to leave his comfort zone and its the reason why when training in the Bon tradition they put your through your paces from the bottom of the ladder to the top and then once again but under the influence of hallucinogens and only then can you truly claim to have mastered it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted February 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Heartbreak said: Simply put... Hi HB, Are you there? - Anand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleansox Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Heartbreak said: A weaker body has lesser sexual power than a strong body. Why do cultivators need such a strong body anyway? Does this imply that instead of harnessing strength and cultivating life force, a cultivator should embrace weakness? And if sexuality is an issue, why not postpone celibacy until your level of practice supports it? Food for thought: If eating meat and being around women will steal the alchemical pill, there might not be an alchemical pill to start with. Edited February 19, 2020 by Cleansox Added stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, SirPalomides said: For what it's worth, it is commonly held in the Eastern Orthodox monastic tradition that eating meat encourages lust and other base passions- hence most monastics maintain a vegetarian diet (except fish on feast days). Hundreds of middle-aged male grillmasters with sagging libidos beg to differ. Edited February 19, 2020 by liminal_luke 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted February 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Heartbreak said: Notice how you walk on the streets you will automatically be drawn towards beautiful faces and sexy bodies? Hi HB, You walk on the streets automatically...? - Anand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted February 19, 2020 49 minutes ago, old3bob said: the proper amount and form of protein, minerals, etc. can be had from various plants but it takes some education and study, and thus if done correctly a person can be strong and more healthy because of a great reduction in stress on the body (like with the work of the kidneys) from dealing with the common worldwide over consumption of meat and dairy. Raising beef, pork, along with dairy is one of the main contributors of AGW (global warming.) Add in automobile exhaust, coal fired plants to that equation also. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) The hangup on lust, sin, being of primary importance from ones that show up on this forum. Emotional/sexual suppression being caused by insane religious beliefs, bad parenting, which includes other traumatic events are characterized by character body armoring. E.g. fear, muscular rigidity with a penchant to authoritarian fascist views. Instead of worrying about chakras or whatever, get a life!! Edited February 19, 2020 by ralis 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted February 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Heartbreak said: animal breeding ... leads to... 12 minutes ago, ralis said: global warming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Earl Grey said: I've actually worked with a friend doing research on such, and by and large, being vegan or vegetarian doesn't guarantee good health. A vegetarian who eats instant ramen is going to die a hell of a lot faster than someone having a grass-fed burger once in a while. The worst things you can have are preservatives, soy, and chemicals in your foods--sadly, a lot of vegan dishes are this way too. Soy which has been shown to increase estrogen levels is is not recommended for males. We only use olive and walnut oil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted February 19, 2020 Perhaps not eating meat while being celibate will bring the future lifetime reward of being a cow in India. After all cows are sacred in India. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted February 19, 2020 Not too much, not too little. Everything must be in moderation. Also diet should be defined by our constituent energetic makeup. Balance is the key. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted February 19, 2020 Sex and reality TV take up a lot of my energy, so I don´t have time right now to engage in an extended scientific debate about the virtues of vegetarianism. Suffice it to say that there are reasons to question the oft-repeated notion that consuming meat is bad for health or the environment. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites