Starjumper Posted March 20, 2020 I just got off the phone with a professor in China. He says it's not worth getting the Covid-19 now, as they're expecting the Covid-20 Pro to be released in September. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) It's really cool to be alive at this point in history because it's like the collapse of the Roman empire, but with WIFI. Edited March 20, 2020 by Starjumper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted March 20, 2020 US and Chinese 'biological' spies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted March 22, 2020 Someone forwarded a message to me on FB, which I am not able to copy and paste. It is about the guy called the Chinese Billionaire whistleblower, with insider information, saying that they are cremating 50,000 people a day, and that there are probably over a million dead in China. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted March 22, 2020 16 hours ago, Starjumper said: Someone forwarded a message to me on FB, which I am not able to copy and paste. It is about the guy called the Chinese Billionaire whistleblower, with insider information, saying that they are cremating 50,000 people a day, and that there are probably over a million dead in China. This article is from February 21st: https://www.ccn.com/coronavirus-exiled-billionaire-says-china-burning-1200-bodies-a-day/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted March 22, 2020 Evidently some senators and a lot of CEOs sold their holdings before the stock market crash. That could be one reason that this was initially presented as 'no problem'. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreak Posted March 23, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/lokinhei/status/1241220936906338304 Report by @appledaily_hk , Japanese news outlet interviewed Wuhan doctors, and confirmed Wuhan has stopped testing, that is why new case = 0 there. They release people in quarantine early too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walker Posted March 23, 2020 7 hours ago, ilumairen said: This article is from February 21st: https://www.ccn.com/coronavirus-exiled-billionaire-says-china-burning-1200-bodies-a-day/ Guo is an annoying egomaniac crackpot rich boy with more agendas than I can count, so I don't trust his stats and "facts." (Nor do I wholly write them off, either) But I'm prone to believe the general gist of what's on the Twitter link Heartbreak just posted. The "lie to juke stats, to reduce inconvenience to the hospital, to get patients to transfer or check themselves out, to keep the in-hospital death rate numbers low, to publish scientific papers of no scientific value, to satisfy one's boss, to satisfy the Party" habits and even protocols were already firmly established in China's medical system long before covid. They were a part of my training in Beijing and Shanghai. They also almost killed me (that is not hyperbole... I am speaking of misdiagnosed appendicitis leading to undiagnosed peritonitis, a result of incompetence and not giving a shit) in Shanghai in 2011 and almost made a potentially catastrophic infection much worse in Beijing in 2010 (a department chair doctor refused to do a bacterial culture and prescribed me antibiotics for a chronic infection; he became angry when I asked for a culture and refused to order one, saying I should not come see experts if I do not trust experts; I had to go through guanxi simply to get this culture done on my own dollar at another hospital; it turned out to be MRSA, totally resistant to the drug the "expert" had prescribed). Even the "look at our amazing recovery rates using herbs" reports need to be viewed with extreme circumspection. Propagandists never sleep, in the the PRC, in the US, anywhere. Only difference is, some countries have checks and balances, and others have checkmate. 5 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/21/2020 at 4:47 AM, Starjumper said: I just got off the phone with a professor in China. He says it's not worth getting the Covid-19 now, as they're expecting the Covid-20 Pro to be released in September. Lol just yesterday Covid 20 popped into my head out of nowhere Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Walker said: Guo is an annoying egomaniac crackpot rich boy with more agendas than I can count, so I don't trust his stats and "facts." (Nor do I wholly write them off, either) Disinformation in mass media / opinions is another threat in 2020s coming with the growth of the internet. When there was recently fire tragedy in cinema in russia and 60-70 people died as the fire exits were non existent, non working and the doors were blocked. So, a lot of people came on internet and spoke about 300 deaths, 500 deaths, 600 children dead and morgues full of dead people. Those people were literally hyping and profiteering over a tragedy / mass deaths. Some of those bloggers have audience counted in millions of people. Governments do have tendency to downplay issues, and media / bloggers has tendency to overblow the issues. But overrall if china reports 81k cases, I would not think they have millions sick. Certainly not as bad as Italy. From the video I have seen of China they do take some serious measures, with constant disinfection of public transport, streets, and places. Edited March 23, 2020 by GSmaster 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bax44 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Disinformation has been going on forever, now its just about 100x faster and more confusing for sure. The people who think they "know" whats going on are probably the last ones you should listen to. Trust yourself. Edited March 23, 2020 by bax44 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 23, 2020 @Starjumper I have just read a solid article. They were studying the possibility of SARS merging with highly contagious bat Coronavirus, back in USA south Carolina in 2015! When people realized how stupid and dangerous this is, they have closed the project. But the project just moved to china and continued there. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted March 23, 2020 Thanks GSmaster, here's the link https://web.archive.org/web/20200128222519/https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 23, 2020 29 minutes ago, Starjumper said: Thanks GSmaster, here's the link https://web.archive.org/web/20200128222519/https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985 Shi Zhengli Chinese writer Description Shi Zhengli is a Chinese virologist and writer. She is a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is part of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. Shi and her colleague Cui Jie found that the SARS virus originated in bats. Shi is a member of the Virology Committee of the Chinese Society for Microbiology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 23, 2020 There is no limits to humans foolishness and idiocy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted March 25, 2020 and no limits to human ingenuity, kindness, nurturing and bliss... the lists are both indefinite and infinite in both directions of expression. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreak Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) https://mobile.twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1242190711732285440?s=19 Hospital refuses to admit #CCPVirus patient as they want to keep "zero new case" record. Upset family starts a fight with staff, on Mar. 23, Not sure which hospital. Edited March 25, 2020 by Heartbreak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted March 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Heartbreak said: https://mobile.twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1242190711732285440?s=19 Hospital refuses to admit #CCPVirus patient as they want to keep "zero new case" record. Upset family starts a fight with staff, on Mar. 23, Not sure which hospital. That could have been anything. What makes you so sure it's genuine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Edited March 25, 2020 by Starjumper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted March 26, 2020 I was confident the US would come out in the lead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted March 27, 2020 (edited) Krakow's main square, before and after Warsaw, Poland: Cuenca Ecuador now: USA Today: Edited March 27, 2020 by Starjumper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Starjumper said: USA Today: If thats true they are damn idiots! New York has no place for dead bodies now, people die like .... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 27, 2020 Many thought China is under risk due to poor lung health of 60% chinese, with oversmoking Italy under risk with high average age of population. But USA is under risk due to obesity! 40% of population is obese, these people have good chance of dying from pneumonia 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted March 27, 2020 Here is a whole bunch of bad news, and it's all about the US, a circus of failures and disasters, leading to an expected 2.2 million deaths: How the Pandemic Will End 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walker Posted March 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Starjumper said: I was confident the US would come out in the lead. The US is definitely turning out to be much more of a mess than I expected. But you believe those PRC stats? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
