bax44 Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, GSmaster said: So what freedom you have? I thought I was done with you. Why you keep taking one or two words out of my posts and posting them out of context. Go away, Warcraft troll. Go be a good boy and wash your hands. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bax44 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) It is true technology has been being tracked for god knows how long, mostly for marketing purposes. It’s already intrusive enough. That doesn’t mean you just give up all rights to privacy cuz you’re scared. Edited March 30, 2020 by bax44 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starjumper Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, GSmaster said: Conspiracy theorists with panic about this or that innovation come in waves every few years. You are being tracked. Its been there for years, there is telemetry in windows, in android, in apps, in google. You cant really get away from it. There are fools in the conspiracy theorist camp and fools in the anti conspiracy theory camp, and then there are people who pay careful attention and know what's going on. In any case, I refer to things that are a lot more sinister than tracking people, which the slaves blow off by calling them conspiracy theories. The term conspiracy theorist was invented by the FBI as a pre-emptive strike, to discredit those who know, in the minds of the brainwashed slaves. And then, lo and behold, and even bigger insult is to call those who know, Tin Hat Conspiracy Theorists. I must say, I admire the FBI's intelligence and foresight, it's awesome to behold. It's almost like they knew, a long long time ago, that microwaves could interfere with people's thinking and health, and they already had the knife ready for that. Edited March 30, 2020 by Starjumper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirPalomides Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Starjumper said: There are fools in the conspiracy theorist camp and fools in the anti conspiracy theory camp, and then there are people who pay careful attention and know what's going on. In any case, I refer to things that are a lot more sinister than tracking people, which the slaves blow off by calling them conspiracy theories. The term conspiracy theorist was invented by the FBI as a pre-emptive strike, to discredit those who know in the minds of the brainwashed slaves. And then, lo and behold, and even bigger insult is to call those who know, Tin Hat Conspiracy Theorists. I must say, I admire the FBI's intelligence and foresight, it's awesome to behold. It's almost like they knew that microwaves could interfere with people's thinking and health a long time ago, and they already had the knife ready. How dare you call the formidable @GSmaster a slave and a fool?!?! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Starjumper said: There are fools in the conspiracy theorist camp and fools in the anti conspiracy theory camp, and then there are people who pay careful attention and know what's going on. Thing is, anything can be used. You just have to be smart, and watch a lot of porn to clog up the FBI searches. As for any meaningful interactions use safe encrypted deletable telegram chats. Never post anything of value on instagram / whatsapp / facebook / any other social network. Idiots are those who open facebook, and start giving away all the personal info to datamining company. Even if I post anything personal online, it is not necessarily real information. So you can easily confuse parasites and regain privacy. As for the products I buy they are no different from billions others. As for windows and e.t.c there are multiple tricks to use, including using VPN, that encrypts all your internet traffic, adblock, antitracker, and windows optimization. Edited March 30, 2020 by GSmaster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirPalomides Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, GSmaster said: You just have to be smart, and watch a lot of porn to clog up the FBI searches. You hear that? He just watches it to mess with the feds! Just like grandpa said he only read it for the articles! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, SirPalomides said: You hear that? He just watches it to mess with the feds! Just like grandpa said he only read it for the articles! I actually come here to mess with Feds, and I tend to have more than 100+ browser windows open at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bax44 Posted March 30, 2020 https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2020/03/lord-sumption-speaks-against-hysteria-driven-government-policy-.html The real problem is that when human societies lose their freedom, it's not usually because tyrants have taken it away. It's usually because people willingly surrender their freedom in return for protection against some external threat. And the threat is usually a real threat but usually exaggerated. That's what I fear we are seeing now. The pressure on politicians has come from the public. They want action. They don't pause to ask whether the action will work. They don't ask themselves whether the cost will be worth paying. They want action anyway. And anyone who has studied history will recognise here the classic symptoms of collective hysteria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted March 30, 2020 2 hours ago, bax44 said: you are the one who said it was "per day",. then backtracked and said its for "today". Huge difference. Im done talking to you about it , but continue throwing childish insults around. I was simply trying to understand the context of the chart, since it seemed disingenuous. Bye. Welcome to the world of GS Master . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, bax44 said: Conspiracy theories? I never said virus isn’t real. I posted many experts (real ones, not some guy pretending to be a wizard who’s probably just a dungeons and dragons role player posting random charts about 3000 people dying per day) who believe the whole thing is being way overhyped. Totalitarianism has happened before in case you didn’t notice. And usually when there’s a huge amount of fear the people are very easy to control. there doesn’t need to be any “conspiracies “. Now, I’ll leave you to your world of Warcraft marathon session. Yep . You have tagged him correctly . Its the modern world .... constant gaming and an imagination ruined by constant modern gaming / super hero / internet 'research' . The kids today .... ho - hum . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted March 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, SirPalomides said: How dare you call the formidable @GSmaster a slave and a fool?!?! Oh come on now Sir P ! Dont disrupt the new little love nest ! They only just got together ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted March 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, GSmaster said: Thing is, anything can be used. You just have to be smart, and watch a lot of porn . Well, that explains why you are saying you are so smart 32 minutes ago, GSmaster said: As for any meaningful interactions use safe encrypted deletable telegram chats. Never post anything of value on instagram / whatsapp / facebook / any other social network. Idiots are those who open facebook, and start giving away all the personal info to datamining company. Even if I post anything personal online, it is not necessarily real information. Yeah , we kinda noticed that 32 minutes ago, GSmaster said: As for the products I buy they are no different from billions others. As for windows and e.t.c there are multiple tricks to use, including using VPN, that encrypts all your internet traffic, adblock, antitracker, and windows optimization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirPalomides Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nungali said: Oh come on now Sir P ! Dont disrupt the new little love nest ! They only just got together ! I’m just looking out for @GSmaster‘s best interests. @Starjumper was talking a lot of shit about him when he wasn’t around! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, SirPalomides said: I’m just looking out for @GSmaster‘s best interests. @Starjumper was talking a lot of shit about him when he wasn’t around! Thats just becasue Starjumper cant do it to his face as he is scared of his awesome avenging magical powers . Then again ... Starjumper has the awesome steel garage palm strike ! < snicker > Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 31, 2020 Its actually been 3700 deaths as of yesterday. Thats quite alot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Starjumper said: In any case, I refer to things that are a lot more sinister than tracking people, which the slaves blow off by calling them conspiracy theories. The term conspiracy theorist was invented by the FBI as a pre-emptive strike, to discredit those who know, in the minds of the brainwashed slaves. And then, lo and behold, and even bigger insult is to call those who know, Tin Hat Conspiracy Theorists. I must say, I admire the FBI's intelligence and foresight, it's awesome to behold. It's almost like they knew, a long long time ago, that microwaves could interfere with people's thinking and health, and they already had the knife ready for that. What I am talking about are people who lost their mind on it. It is absolute fact that everyone is being watched / monitored, data is being processed massively. Unless you live in a place where there are no humans, no internet, electricity, in mountains. Even then you have the satellites that probably have pictures of your house. The computers develop at a such a rate, that it will be possible to hold unlimited amount of information about everyone. But there are people with maniac phobias, there are some grandmothers, who believe there is an FBI agent living in next room to them, who is holding some beam psychotronic device and tries to turn them into zombies at night. That there are aliens who want to take them for the experiments. It all comes from blind fear towards unknown and a perception of self as something overly important. I think in a time when 99% people have no self control over themselves and no freedom inside, talking about governments limiting freedom is quite nonsensical. Although, I do dislike authoritarian approach like the one in the China. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bax44 Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Always have to watch out for when someone says "when 99 percent of people"..have so and so or do such and such. In this case the great dark slayer of the internet underworld is making the broad sweeping generalization of all broad sweeping generalizations to try and down play the very real scenario of people in power taking advantage of a situation where they could have even more. Even if what you say is true, that doesnt mean its acceptable for those of us in the real world -not wanting to see things like that happen. You seem particularly obtuse and almost totally oblivious to human history, and what can easily happen when a fearful society gets freaked the f*** out and is willing to do anything for "safety". Edited March 31, 2020 by bax44 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bax44 said: Always have to watch out for when someone says "when 99 percent of people".. How many are enlightened? 99% is a generalisation but in a softer way, the more real number would be 99.9999% Quote not wanting to see things like that happen Things have already happened, you are just ignorant about it. Then throw your mastercard away, throw your smartphone in garbage bin, dont use computers, and dont use internet. Edited March 31, 2020 by GSmaster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bax44 Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, GSmaster said: How many are enlightened? 99% is a generalisation but in a softer way, the more real number would be 99.9999% its irrelevant anyways, it seems youre saying "since no ones barely enlightened, whats it matter if we go down the route to oppression and loss of freedoms,etc". maybe youre one of the 99.99%? perhaps youre overestimating your own luminosity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bax44 Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, GSmaster said: How many are enlightened? 99% is a generalisation but in a softer way, the more real number would be 99.9999% Things have already happened, you are just ignorant about it. Then throw your mastercard away, throw your smartphone in garbage bin, dont use computers, and dont use internet. Yeah, pretty much what I thought. You really are that obtuse. Its a totally different thing that Im getting at than what you are on about. Theres really no need for you to reply to me anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, bax44 said: You really are that obtuse. Its a totally different thing that Im getting at than what you are on about. You have not answered yet, which particular freedom you are so afraid to lose. A freedom to go around while your infected by deadly disease and kill other people? Hope you are sitting on quarantine as all other people do. At this time. Bill Gates idea about electronic / personal id with the medical data / history is actually a decent one for the future. It could curb the spread of many dangerous diseases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bax44 Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, GSmaster said: You have not answered yet, which particular freedom you are so afraid to lose. A freedom to go around while your infected by deadly disease and kill other people? Hope you are sitting on quarantine as all other people do. At this time. Bill Gates idea about electronic / personal id with the medical data / history is actually a decent one for the future. It could curb the spread of many dangerous diseases. News flash : in a regular flu year you can be infected with a “deadly disease” that has capability to kill other people, so I guess we should start making quarantines a regular thing then. And honestly I don’t really feel like laying out all the myriad of reasons why the gates thing could be a horrible idea to someone who’s clearly as obedient and unquestioning as you seem to be. You apparently have no real clue about what your quarantine over this scary virus will end up costing people in ways that a fearful short sighted mind can’t comprehend right now. But, 99.9% of people are unenlightened, so who cares, right? I’m not sure how someone can have such a blunted sense of not only history, but of human nature and how people in power generally operate when given more power. Edited March 31, 2020 by bax44 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSmaster Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bax44 said: News flash : in a regular flu year you can be infected with a “deadly disease” that has capability to kill other people, so I guess we should start making quarantines a regular thing then. It is not the same thing you have been told many times. It has 10x lethality rate, and it is much more infectious. You wont catch a regular flu from touching door handles 2 days after an infected touched it. Regular flu lasts 7-10 days, this one lasts up to 3 weeks, causes pneumonia, and heart / lung damage. It requires hospitalization and lung ventilator in as much as 10% cases. So yeah, you might be dangerous for the society. 5 minutes ago, bax44 said: thing could be a horrible idea to someone who’s clearly as obedient and unquestioning as you seem to be. It is actually a good idea to control idiots from damaging innocent people and elderly with a lethal virus. Edited March 31, 2020 by GSmaster 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bax44 Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GSmaster said: It is not the same thing you have been told many times. It has 10x lethality rate, and it is much more infectious. You wont catch a regular flu from touching door handles 2 days after an infected touched it. So yeah, you might be dangerous for the society. It is actually a good idea to control idiots from damaging innocent people and elderly with a lethal virus. Lol. All about being “safe”, right? You’d be willing to let your superiors do almost anything to you in the name of safety. youre proving to be the poster child for exactly the mindset I’m talking about . Edited March 31, 2020 by bax44 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earl Grey Posted March 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, bax44 said: News flash : in a regular flu year you can be infected with a “deadly disease” that has capability to kill other people, so I guess we should start making quarantines a regular thing then. False comparison. Please see this link: A few key points quoted from the member who posted that in response to this article, https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/#comments: Quote The contagion factor is excluded from the authors analysis, which makes his theory just as incomplete as the missing data he complains about. The contagion factor of this virus is far greater than influenza- so if you don’t take measures to slow the spread you get a higher death rate because you can’t treat all the sick at once. Italy versus China is an actual example of what happens- they are already surpassing China’s death rate even though their population pales in comparison (60 million versus 1.35 billion) Quote This author fails to take that into consideration, as well as the contagion factor. Th fact that COVID19’s viral shed factor is 1,000 times greater than influenza, and it’s peak shed is during incubation when many times there are no symptoms (as opposed to influenza, which peaks after it settles into the lungs). Quote Interesting read. One aspect missing is the contagious rate – if statistics are missing the real spread of corona, then the reported rate of contagion (which is already more than twice that of influenza) is indeed even higher. that alone is a sufficient solid reason for social distancing and an analysis missing that element fails to comprehensively address the crisis we´re facing. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites