There are Dark Government Agents in Dao Bums seeking to discredit sincere spiritual practitioners.

[Hannes]

TBH, If I was a government agent researching "X-files" kind of stuff; I might imagine landing on this website from time to time.

Just by doing google searches in certain topics one lands here.

I wouldn't be surprised if this forum was on some top military watch list and regularly scanned for certain keywords.

(together with about 10.000 other sites). Cfr. ECHELON

 

About actively participating and discrediting (= directly influencing). It's highly unlikely.

 

But I love the title. It looks like a cheap action thriller and g-d, we need some fun during this Corona-Cabin-fever

[MegaMind]

19 hours ago, Heartbreak said:

There are Dark Government Agents in Dao Bums seeking to discredit sincere spiritual practitioners.

 

@Heartbreak What is your opinion on the Mo Pai threads that span hundreds of pages?

[Heartbreak]

1 hour ago, MegaMind said:

 

@Heartbreak What is your opinion on the Mo Pai threads that span hundreds of pages?

 

John Chang is dead but there are thousands of qigong masters who can compete with John Chang even when he is alive.

 

In my opinion, Terry Dunn of Flying Phoenix is not too bad even though he doesn't openly display siddhis.

[Limahong]

1 minute ago, Heartbreak said:

John Chang is dead...

 

All of us will die... some sooner than others.

[Heartbreak]

I have been reading and researching semen retention sexual practices and cultivation of sexual energies into spiritual energies into immortality and everywhere I go I see psy ops agents putting down semen retention sexual practices.

 

In the nofap forum, you even have porn industry agents attacking the nofap forum. Don't you all know that the CIA sponsored the porn industry?

 

There is a widespread hidden conspiracy to seduce men into losing their seed sperms to age them quicker and die off quicker while at the same time prevent seed sperm energies to transform into kundalini energies into spiritual awakenings for the masses.

[Limahong]

Just now, Heartbreak said:

I have been reading and researching

 

The more I read the less I understand.

[MegaMind]

1 hour ago, Heartbreak said:

 

John Chang is dead but there are thousands of qigong masters who can compete with John Chang even when he is alive.

 

In my opinion, Terry Dunn of Flying Phoenix is not too bad even though he doesn't openly display siddhis.

 

More what I was asking was if you felt government agents were suppressing discussion of Mo Pai, as the critics seem almost superhuman in their unrelenting quest to convince everyone what a steaming pile of crap Mo Pai and everyone involved in it are.

[Earl Grey]

2 hours ago, Heartbreak said:

 

John Chang is dead but there are thousands of qigong masters who can compete with John Chang even when he is alive.

 

In my opinion, Terry Dunn of Flying Phoenix is not too bad even though he doesn't openly display siddhis.

 

Even Sifu Terry wouldn't bother comparing himself to JC (RIP) since he is a normal man with a few healing and martial skills, a few of which are on his FP thread. He is a scholar and a teacher, not a miracle man. 

 

Terry's teachers and lineage, on the other hand...

[Heartbreak]

1 hour ago, MegaMind said:

 

More what I was asking was if you felt government agents were suppressing discussion of Mo Pai, as the critics seem almost superhuman in their unrelenting quest to convince everyone what a steaming pile of crap Mo Pai and everyone involved in it are.

 

Hey MM, I have never seen any mo pai threads or critics putting down mo pai in this forum. If you can provide me with some links to mo pai threads which you feel that us government agents are putting down, I will scan their words for their energetic intent and get back to you. 

 

Anyway, I am gonna study mo pai for a bit. Be getting back to you.

[MegaMind]

9 minutes ago, Heartbreak said:

 

Hey MM, I have never seen any mo pai threads or critics putting down mo pai in this forum. If you can provide me with some links to mo pai threads which you feel that us government agents are putting down, I will scan their words for their energetic intent and get back to you. 

 

Anyway, I am gonna study mo pai for a bit. Be getting back to you.

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/45053--/

 

This thread went 53 pages.

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/49746-continuation/

 

This one for 14 pages

 

The other ones are hidden with the rest of the material in the "pit", but most of them went over 100 pages each.

Edited March 15, 2020 by MegaMind

[Heartbreak]

7 minutes ago, MegaMind said:

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/45053--/

 

This thread went 53 pages.

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/49746-continuation/

 

This one for 14 pages

 

The other ones are hidden with the rest of the material in the "pit", but most of them went over 100 pages each.

 

I think for some reason or another, people exaggerate mo pai's danger and power for dunno what reason. I just took a brief glance at starjumper's posts and the mo pai techniques are basic compared to grandmaster doo wai's lineages. My apologies if you feel offended.

[Earl Grey]

9 minutes ago, Heartbreak said:

 

I think for some reason or another, people exaggerate mo pai's danger and power for dunno what reason. I just took a brief glance at starjumper's posts and the mo pai techniques are basic compared to grandmaster doo wai's lineages. My apologies if you feel offended.

They are in no way similar. Sorry to say, even the basic levels MM and his group have are enough to make them cautious and why they keep their gates shut to filter people.

 

GM Doo Wai has a completely different system and what looks outwardly similar in the internal arts is almost never the same from intent to breathing.

 

People who have attempted both Mo Pai and Doo Wai arts simultaneously experience major qi sickness.

[ralis]

2 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

They are in no way similar. Sorry to say, even the basic levels MM and his group have are enough to make them cautious and why they keep their gates shut to filter people.

 

GM Doo Wai has a completely different system and what looks outwardly similar in the internal arts is almost never the same from intent to breathing.

 

People who have attempted both Mo Pai and Doo Wai arts simultaneously experience major qi sickness.

I thought MoPai was gone and surprise they are back. 

[Heartbreak]

3 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

They are in no way similar. Sorry to say, even the basic levels MM and his group have are enough to make them cautious and why they keep their gates shut to filter people.

 

GM Doo Wai has a completely different system and what looks outwardly similar in the internal arts is almost never the same from intent to breathing.

 

People who have attempted both Mo Pai and Doo Wai arts simultaneously experience major qi sickness.

 

I said Mo Pai's techniques are basic and rather incomplete. Mo Pai Level 1 to 4 take you now-where unless you practice other techniques in conjunction with Mo Pai.

 

I have no problems with combining Mo Pai and Doo Wai arts. But unfortunately Mo Pai doesn't have too much materials to combine with Doo Wai arts.

Edited March 15, 2020 by Heartbreak

[Heartbreak]

2 minutes ago, ralis said:

I thought MoPai was gone and surprise they are back. 

 

It is over exaggerated. Even Jerry Alan Johnson and Mantak Chia have so much more materials than Mo Pai.

[ralis]

1 minute ago, Heartbreak said:

 

I said Mo Pai's techniques are basic and rather incomplete. Mo Pai Level 1 to 4 take you now-where unless you practice other techniques in conjunction with Mo Pai.

 

I have no problems with combining Mo Pai and Doo Wai arts. But unfortunately Mo Pai doesn't have too much materials to combine with Doo Wai arts.

No one has level 4. Where did you get that idea?

[ralis]

24 minutes ago, Heartbreak said:

 

I think for some reason or another, people exaggerate mo pai's danger and power for dunno what reason. I just took a brief glance at starjumper's posts and the mo pai techniques are basic compared to grandmaster doo wai's lineages. My apologies if you feel offended.

MoPai will stress out and damage the cardiovascular system. There are documented cases of this occurring. 

[Heartbreak]

2 minutes ago, ralis said:

MoPai will stress out and damage the cardiovascular system. There are documented cases of this occurring. 

 

That is nice to hear. Where is your proof?

Edited March 15, 2020 by Heartbreak

[ralis]

Just now, Heartbreak said:

 

That is nice to hear. Where is your proof?

I don’t do homework/research so Google it yourself. 

[Heartbreak]

Just now, ralis said:

I don’t do homework/research so Google it yourself. 

 

Who cares what you say? Doesn't matter to me what dark government agents say as it is all such a load of horse-shit I couldn't even be bothered to debunk it. Internet proof? Everything can be manipulated.

[Heartbreak]

I wonder how many people belonging to the Order of the Green Dragons are working in here. 

 

I ain't no Red Dragon so I couldn't give a hoots about either side.

 

The only allegiance which I hold is to the Universe the Divine Creator God Himself.

[Earl Grey]

21 minutes ago, Heartbreak said:

 

I said Mo Pai's techniques are basic and rather incomplete. Mo Pai Level 1 to 4 take you now-where unless you practice other techniques in conjunction with Mo Pai.

 

I have no problems with combining Mo Pai and Doo Wai arts. But unfortunately Mo Pai doesn't have too much materials to combine with Doo Wai arts.

Doo Wai arts are safe—Mo Pai alone is dangerous. Combine at your own risk—there are already several instances of what qi deviation looks like and given your state, it won’t look too much different if you continue along these lines.

 

 I shall allow MegaMind to continue with this because I already said what was necessary with respect to my own teachers and the late John Chang’s art, but I fully expect more threads to come from you of similar nature.

[Heartbreak]

Just now, Earl Grey said:

Doo Wai arts are safe—Mo Pai alone is dangerous. Combine at your own risk—there are already several instances of what qi deviation looks like and given your state, it won’t look too much different if you continue along these lines.

 

 I shall allow MegaMind to continue with this because I already said what was necessary with respect to my own teachers and the late John Chang’s art, but I fully expect more threads to come from you of similar nature.

None of your business. If you are not happy with my threads feel free to not troll in any of them.

[MegaMind]

39 minutes ago, Heartbreak said:

 

I think for some reason or another, people exaggerate mo pai's danger and power for dunno what reason. I just took a brief glance at starjumper's posts and the mo pai techniques are basic compared to grandmaster doo wai's lineages. My apologies if you feel offended.

 

What starjumper posted is not Mo Pai, that is not what we practice.

 

Here is a short video of John (1 minute, 49 seconds):

 

And a video of his student Jim passing his exam ( 2 minutes and 17 seconds)

 

 

[MegaMind]

33 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

They are in no way similar. Sorry to say, even the basic levels MM and his group have are enough to make them cautious and why they keep their gates shut to filter people.

 

GM Doo Wai has a completely different system and what looks outwardly similar in the internal arts is almost never the same from intent to breathing.

 

People who have attempted both Mo Pai and Doo Wai arts simultaneously experience major qi sickness.

 

It isn't Mo Pai that is dangerous, it is people who want to alter the practice and change it because they are "eclectic" and want to absorb multiple teachings and combine them into something new and improved, or people who refuse to follow required safety precautions because they don't believe there is any chance they can get injured.

 

These always ends in catastrophe, and then Mo Pai gets the blame for their health problems.