There are Dark Government Agents in Dao Bums seeking to discredit sincere spiritual practitioners.

[MegaMind]

14 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

 

 

May I ask what people have been hospitalized for? What conditions were they treated (or seeking treatment) for?

 

 

It is hard to know if their ailments are actual or psychosomatic.

 

Some have been institutionalized with psychosis by practicing MCO and Mo Pai together.

 

Some have ignored the safety precautions and claimed to have torn open their LDT, resulting in debilitating pain.

 

Those are just two examples, but there have been many more.

 

Then Mo Pai is held up as the causative factor, and blamed for their illness.

[ilumairen]

3 minutes ago, MegaMind said:

 

It is hard to know if their ailments are actual or psychosomatic.

 

Some have been institutionalized with psychosis by practicing MCO and Mo Pai together.

 

Some have ignored the safety precautions and claimed to have torn open their LDT, resulting in debilitating pain.

 

Those are just two examples, but there have been many more.

 

Then Mo Pai is held up as the causative factor, and blamed for their illness.

 

Are there more examples?

 

And what terminology did the medical professionals use to label and define the symptoms?

[ralis]

Pain is physical and can be diagnosed by a Doctor, but I don’t think it will be a torn LDT. Probably from straining too much. 
 

As for the video clip of the person knocking over cardboard from a distance is a great stress on the cardiovascular system. 

[MegaMind]

16 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

 

Are there more examples?

 

And what terminology did the medical professionals use to label and define the symptoms?

 

I don't know, these are just anecdotal reports.

 

Most of the psychiatric cases I have heard of were from people who thought they could already summon demons and shoot fireballs so it is hard to say what role (whatever it was they actually practiced yet called "Mo Pai") played in the progression of their preexisting condition.

Edited March 15, 2020 by MegaMind

[ralis]

MoPai is just another belief system. 

[ilumairen]

Just now, MegaMind said:

 

I don't know, these are just anecdotal reports.

 

Most of the psychiatric cases I have heard of were from people who thought they could already summon demons and shoot fireballs so it is hard to say what role played in the progression of their preexisting condition.

 

At the moment, I'm not looking to vilify or defend any practice, and recognize the practices in question seem to draw some already unstable individuals.

 

Which leads to a "why?" - which honestly seems to answer itself imo. Anything claiming to bring power seems to draw those who crave it - for whatever their personal reasons may be, and honestly seems to highlight a sense of powerlessness. 

 

It's an interesting dichotomy imo.

[MegaMind]

12 minutes ago, ralis said:

MoPai is just another belief system. 

 

Technology would be a better description.

 

If I demonstrate how to use a bow tool to make fire using tinder and sticks, this is a form of technology.

 

Others can follow the same method exactly and achieve the same results.

 

No one is required to hold any "belief", it is simply a matter of following the instructions and observing the result.

[MegaMind]

52 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

 

At the moment, I'm not looking to vilify or defend any practice, and recognize the practices in question seem to draw some already unstable individuals.

 

Which leads to a "why?" - which honestly seems to answer itself imo. Anything claiming to bring power seems to draw those who crave it - for whatever their personal reasons may be, and honestly seems to highlight a sense of powerlessness. 

 

It's an interesting dichotomy imo.

 

As far as I can tell the spiritual community as a whole draws out the crazies.

 

Have you ever been to a dedicated occult forum?

 

It is truly cringe worthy how broken some of these people are.

Edited March 15, 2020 by MegaMind

[C T]

Its funny people think karma is all just gross stuff, like being randomly hit on the head by a loose antenna while strolling past someone's balcony. One could also get subtly 'hit' by a loose piece of thread that flew out someone's window - just because its not felt does not in any way mean the 'hit' did not happen. Its all relative. Denying liability does not magically stop karma in its tracks, and if such a thought exists in a person's mind, then the one who makes that assumption has much to learn yet. Proclaiming one's denial while at the same time maintaining condescending views says much about the true depth of where that person's at. 

[MegaMind]

10 minutes ago, C T said:

Its funny people think karma is all just gross stuff, like being randomly hit on the head by a loose antenna while strolling past someone's balcony. One could also get subtly 'hit' by a loose piece of thread that flew out someone's window - just because its not felt does not in any way mean the 'hit' did not happen. Its all relative. Denying liability does not magically stop karma in its tracks, and if such a thought exists in a person's mind, then the one who makes that assumption has much to learn yet. Proclaiming one's denial while at the same time maintaining condescending views says much about the true depth of where that person's at. 

 

When I was 13 my father gave me some sage advice, "don't have sex with someone if you feel that they are crazy".

 

Every time I have gone against this advice it has resulted in horrific consequences.

 

That is Karma in action.

Edited March 15, 2020 by MegaMind

[ilumairen]

6 minutes ago, MegaMind said:

 

When I was 13 my father gave me some sage advice, "DSYDIC".

 

I am unfamiliar with this term or acronym. What does it mean?

 

6 minutes ago, MegaMind said:

Every time I have gone against this advice it has resulted in horrific consequences.

 

That is Karma in action.

 

Why is karma so often seen as negative repercussions?

[MegaMind]

1 minute ago, ilumairen said:

 

I am unfamiliar with this term or acronym. What does it mean?

 

 

Why is karma so often seen as negative repercussions?

 

"don't have sex with someone if you feel that they are crazy"

[C T]

7 minutes ago, MegaMind said:

 

When I was 13 my father gave me some sage advice, "don't have sex with someone if you feel that they are crazy".

 

Every time I have gone against this advice it has resulted in horrific consequences.

 

That is Karma in action.

The more you try to portray your understanding (of what you think karma & sagely advice is), the more you reveal your spiritual maturity.  

[EmeraldHead]

1 hour ago, MegaMind said:

If you want to mix, match, and blend together practices you will need to speak with someone else.

Solid points.

 

What about you, however,  can you support someone with genuine abilities and changes in their system to start the training? Not normal people starting from scratch doing simple and wrongs things they read on the internet.

 

Someone that can actually control the elements, or have provable clayvoyances (voyance, audience and all the rest clay-) on command, or someone that has created the jindan and has stopped aging for the body, would you turn them away because you are unsure how to instruct them? Would y'all be able to contact the now lineage members and carriers for advice about a matter like this? What about a humanoid alien?

[EmeraldHead]

45 minutes ago, ralis said:

Pain is physical and can be diagnosed by a Doctor, but I don’t think it will be a torn LDT. Probably from straining too much. 

How do we know for sure? As we probably know as a free English speaking community here on the net, almost none of us that are willing to talk have an actual DAN tien. The postnatal chi is just the elixir field. There is no dan to it. Most people simply use mental intention, be it imagination or purer. What exactly moves from the middle of the body? The bigger muscles that pass through there in their placement in the body? What about blood? Does it center itself to that area? The chi field needs constant reinforcement down there. That tells about it's 'centrality'. The body however, grows on it's own. dot dot dot

[MegaMind]

5 minutes ago, C T said:

The more you try to portray your understanding (of what you think karma & sagely advice is), the more you reveal your spiritual maturity.  

 

What we practice isn't a "spiritual" practice, it is just a technology.

 

It does not make you a better person, or bring you equanimity, inner peace, boundless compassion or radiant wisdom.

[MegaMind]

5 minutes ago, EmeraldHead said:

Solid points.

 

What about you, however,  can you support someone with genuine abilities and changes in their system to start the training? Not normal people starting from scratch doing simple and wrongs things they read on the internet.

 

Someone that can actually control the elements, or have provable clayvoyances (voyance, audience and all the rest clay-) on command, or someone that has created the jindan and has stopped aging for the body, would you turn them away because you are unsure how to instruct them? Would y'all be able to contact the now lineage members and carriers for advice about a matter like this? What about a humanoid alien?

 

We provide the instructions John gave to Jim and Kosta without alternation, nothing more and nothing less.

 

If someone comes to us claiming to be a clairvoyant, negligibly senescent, humanoid alien, that can control the weather we would probably introduce them to Jeff McDuffie, James Van Gelder and Shifu Lin as they are better equipped to deal with such "beings".

[C T]

17 minutes ago, MegaMind said:

 

What we practice isn't a "spiritual" practice, it is just a technology.

 

It does not make you a better person, or bring you equanimity, inner peace, boundless compassion or radiant wisdom.

Sigh. It gets worse with each reply. 

 

Good luck with your toy, lad. 

[MegaMind]

4 minutes ago, C T said:

Sigh. It gets worse with each reply. 

 

Good luck with your toy, lad. 

 

As an example John's teacher supposedly slaughtered an entire village of people.

 

While he did regret his actions afterwords that didn't prevent him from supposedly being a mass murderer and fleeing China to settle in Indonesia to escape the Chinese authorities.

 

John's teacher reached a level far beyond what John himself did even.

Edited March 15, 2020 by MegaMind

[ilumairen]

Why would you do this:

 

13 minutes ago, MegaMind said:

If someone comes to us claiming to be a clairvoyant, negligibly senescent, humanoid alien, that can control the weather we would probably introduce them to Jeff McDuffie, James Van Gelder and Shifu Lin as they are better equipped to deal with such "beings".

 

If you honestly believe this:

 

1 hour ago, MegaMind said:

There are those who read Shifu Lin, James Van Gelder, and Jeff McDuffie's, etc. instructions and get injured because that is not what was taught, and then they blame Mo Pai when they are hospitalized.

 

******

 

If you intentionally direct individuals to what you believe will likely cause them injury, then you certainly do have some responsibility imo.

[MegaMind]

Just now, ilumairen said:

Why would you do this:

 

 

If you honestly believe this:

 

 

******

 

If you intentionally direct individuals to what you believe will likely cause them injury, then you certainly do have some responsibility imo.

 

I was being sarcastic, but people who think they are immortal aliens who control the weather aren't people we can even begin to help.

[Nungali]

21 hours ago, Hannes said:

TBH, If I was a government agent researching "X-files" kind of stuff; I might imagine landing on this website from time to time.

Just by doing google searches in certain topics one lands here.

I wouldn't be surprised if this forum was on some top military watch list and regularly scanned for certain keywords.

(together with about 10.000 other sites). Cfr. ECHELON

 

About actively participating and discrediting (= directly influencing). It's highly unlikely.

 

But I love the title. It looks like a cheap action thriller and g-d, we need some fun during this Corona-Cabin-fever

 

[Nungali]

20 hours ago, Heartbreak said:

I have been reading and researching semen retention sexual practices and cultivation of sexual energies into spiritual energies into immortality and everywhere I go I see psy ops agents putting down semen retention sexual practices.

 

In the nofap forum, you even have porn industry agents attacking the nofap forum. Don't you all know that the CIA sponsored the porn industry?

 

There is a widespread hidden conspiracy to seduce men into losing their seed sperms to age them quicker and die off quicker while at the same time prevent seed sperm energies to transform into kundalini energies into spiritual awakenings for the masses.

 

 

Its about time we had a semen conspiracy . 

[Nungali]

19 hours ago, MegaMind said:

 

More what I was asking was if you felt government agents were suppressing discussion of Mo Pai, as the critics seem almost superhuman in their unrelenting quest to convince everyone what a steaming pile of crap Mo Pai and everyone involved in it are.

 

Thats why there are so many conspiracy theories about .

 

They are started by people that cant handle their crappy belief systems being exposed . So instea of realising they have been dumbly fooled .... must be conspiracy .

 

Its a conspiracy to cover up flat earth ..... alien reptile invaders  and a conspiracy to deny that I am Jesus .

[Limahong]

3 minutes ago, Nungali said:

flat

 

Flat mind ~ one dimension?