Antonio108 Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Hello, Started Qigong +20 years ago and also interested in meditation. My actual practices are Shibashi, wuji qigong and taichi ruler. Edited July 13, 2020 by Antonio108 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Daniel Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Welcome @Antonio108, It's nice to meet you. Edited July 13, 2020 by Daniel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antonio108 Posted July 13, 2020 Nice to meet you too Daniel. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted July 13, 2020 Well met Antonio108. Welcome to the Bums! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antonio108 Posted July 14, 2020 Thank you Silent thunder 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleansox Posted July 14, 2020 20 hours ago, Antonio108 said: Wuji qigong Hi! Is it a method from Elliott, Zhui Hui, Milton or from another source? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antonio108 Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cleansox said: Hi! Is it a method from Elliott, Zhui Hui, Milton or from another source? Hi CleanSox, Started many years ago with the system I first learn from my teacher (South Shaolin qigong) but it was somewhat different because one would gently swing the body back and forth. After that I have practiced from the book “wuji breathing” and also from Jan dieperslot’s book. Lately I have been following the instructions of S. Elliott, but I am not sure I am going to continue because I am having some very strong reactions and I am not sure why. Maybe it is the element breathing that he has introduced in the practice? Can you tell me a little bit more about Zhui Hui and Milton? Edited July 14, 2020 by Antonio108 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleansox Posted July 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Antonio108 said: tely I have been following the instructions of S. Elliott, but I am not sure I am going to continue because I am having some very strong reactions and I am not sure why. Maybe it is the element breathing that he has introduced in the practice? First, sorry but I am one of the insufferable knowitalls on this site, so this might sound bad. Elliott has combined hindu/buddhist and chinese systems, and although some of his general thought is very interesting, in my opinion (backed by how it is done in my practice), it is incomplete and have some interesting variations I would not care to practice myself. If this statement does not offend you too much, you can always pm me and we can discuss his book. 😁 Quote Can you tell me a little bit more about Zhui Hui and Milton? Zhui Hui (I just refreshed my memory online, so the name might be wrong, it has been years since I investigated this method) practiced a method from Wudang: Wuji Qigong/Primordial Qigong/Tai Chi for liberation. He taught four Americans (in a really short setting): Jahnke, Bollo, Cohen and Winn. According to Jahnke, they promised him not to teach (probably the alchemical aspect) all of it. I have had some mail contact with an instructor from one of these (the form have overlaps with my practice), and as far as I could tell (the same with books and dvds on the form) they kept the promise. I haven't seen Winns material, my bank refused to go through with the payment to the Healing Tao account because of european anti-terrorist laws (!). Milton teaches basically the same form, but had another chinese instructor if I remember right. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antonio108 Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cleansox said: If this statement does not offend you too much, you can always pm me and we can discuss his book. No offense at all. Everyone is entitled to his opinion. As I said, I have just started the practice so I do not have yet enough experience to say much about it. I will PM you If you don't mind. The word wuji can refer to two types of practice; the standing posture (Zhan Zhuang)like it is described in Elliot's book and a moving practice called wuji or primordial qigong. The authors you mentioned ( Jahnke, Bollo (could it be Rubbo instead?), Cohen and Winn) belong to the latest, isn't it ? Edited July 14, 2020 by Antonio108 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleansox Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Yes, Rubbo. Never remember names. And yes, all the others are doing moving practices. (Added:Rubber ball, Rubbo Bollo. How the mind works....) Edited July 15, 2020 by Cleansox Added stuff 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
