thelerner Posted July 18, 2020 I found the first line here interesting and I didn't want to distract the original thread. How common do you think energy blockages are for 'newbies'? We hear about them here and on the internet, yet I wonder if thats the squeaky wheel? ie 90% practice, get nothing.. quit. 5% keep going have some benefits then quit. 3 or 4 % take it all the way, make it a decades long practice, and 1% have problems and they're the ones who write here on the internet? I'm pulling these numbers out my ass (or decades of dabbling), but against a popular writer's method or video series, what do you think the %'s are? My thesis, not very common, <1% but that could still be high with enough practitioners. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted July 18, 2020 As common as the dirt in the earth. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiot_stimpy Posted July 18, 2020 I'm guessing everyone is blocked to some extent. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted July 18, 2020 Not even owing to the processed foods and contaminated city life and horrific qualities of chemically neutered water sources... blockages in humans I encounter every day are the norm in my experience. Combine that with the generally stunted emotional temperment of The West, it seems a quagmire of blockage, repression and delusion. Given the state of our environment and the corruption saturating our human aspects of life... I'm with Robert Anton Wilson when he said... Quote Under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. We have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. We have never seen a totally sane human being. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
moment Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, thelerner said: I found the first line here interesting and I didn't want to distract the original thread. How common do you think energy blockages are for 'newbies'? We hear about them here and on the internet, yet I wonder if thats the squeaky wheel? ie 90% practice, get nothing.. quit. 5% keep going have some benefits then quit. 3 or 4 % take it all the way, make it a decades long practice, and 1% have problems and they're the ones who write here on the internet? I'm pulling these numbers out my ass (or decades of dabbling), but against a popular writer's method or video series, what do you think the %'s are? My thesis, not very common, <1% but that could still be high with enough practitioners. Your question concerns newbies. What is your definition of a newbie? If we are talking just a few weeks, then I would think it is very rare, not unknown but, definitely less than 1%. If we are talking about people who are getting into more advanced stuff and especially if they, are starting to experiment in new areas, I think blockages are fairly common ( especially in the head). A very good reason to have advanced, traditionally based teachers, readily available for advice. Edited July 18, 2020 by moment 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleansox Posted July 18, 2020 Blockages (as in TCM theory), well that should be common. But developing severe qi deviations from very little practice, that is another thing. Makes you wonder if there was any symtoms before the practice was initiated. For example: Sleep disorder, anxiety or depression, intruding thoughts, paranoid ideation, balance problem or fine motor/complex hand motor issues. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, thelerner said: I'm pulling these numbers out my ass (or decades of dabbling), but against a popular writer's method or video series, what do you think the %'s are? Hi Micheal, If an ass is a donkey... 1 hour ago, thelerner said: My thesis, not very common, <1% but that could still be high with enough practitioners. 1% is still high for those who practiced. Definitely >99% for those who do not or refuse to practice. Worst still ~ there are those who create blockages for others... whatever their intentions. Your thesis is my premise. Why? Life is for living forward... Don't be an ass or pain in the arse? A great weekend. - Anand 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, silent thunder said: Not even owing to the processed foods and contaminated city life and horrific qualities of chemically neutered water sources... blockages in humans I encounter every day are the norm in my experience. Hi Creighton, Why? Nature creates but (wo)men destroy? Again why? 1 hour ago, silent thunder said: "Under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. We have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. We have never seen a totally sane human being". Walking wounded or living dead? Slightly deranged ~ but waiting for rearrangement? We have never seen a totally sane human being ~ because...? I can be both sane/insane in a moment... such as now... take cover. - Anand Edited July 18, 2020 by Limahong Enhancement 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted July 18, 2020 Actually it wasn't energy blockages as much as energy problems I was originally thinking of. In that an energy blockage might keep you from feeling things, but an energy problem being feeling too much. Getting stuck in a bad state of mind, body or both. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwai Posted July 18, 2020 50 minutes ago, thelerner said: Actually it wasn't energy blockages as much as energy problems I was originally thinking of. In that an energy blockage might keep you from feeling things, but an energy problem being feeling too much. Getting stuck in a bad state of mind, body or both. Feeling too much indicates a sign of too much receptivity/sensitivity without proper distinction between mind and awareness, imho. I’d suggest finding balance by doing something more physical/less energetic for a while. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiot_stimpy Posted July 19, 2020 I'm imagining this, however if one forces things energetically, they will bring up traumas. If they are not able to deal with it they could in serious cases descend into madness. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted July 19, 2020 12 hours ago, thelerner said: Actually it wasn't energy blockages as much as energy problems I was originally thinking of. In that an energy blockage might keep you from feeling things, but an energy problem being feeling too much. Getting stuck in a bad state of mind, body or both. As @Cleansox mentions - many people come to the arts with some serious underlying issues. In fact they come to the arts as a way of healing or dealing with them. The thing is - that there are methods designed for healing and there are powerful methods designed to open you up and prepare you for spiritual practice. These are very different! People jump into the powerful practices that are designed for opening you up as a way of healing and that is exactly the wrong way to go about things!! The way our society is, things like terrible sleep and dietary habits, sexual habits (like watching hard porn for hours every day), addiction to the dozens of daily dopamine hits of social media, taking prescription drugs, smoking weed and dabbling with psychedelics, some underlying mental health issues - depression, anxiety etc - this is all now considered quite normal... people who come into these practices with any of this stuff as their norm are almost guaranteed to very quickly run into issues. Sometimes very serious issues - particularly where mental health and drug use is involved. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Limahong Posted July 19, 2020 19 hours ago, thelerner said: Actually it wasn't energy blockages as much as energy problems I was originally thinking of. In that an energy blockage might keep you from feeling things, but an energy problem being feeling too much. Getting stuck in a bad state of mind, body or both. Hi Micheal, It is good that you add energy problems to energy blockages. The duality of 'feeling little' versus 'feeling too much' as a problem is reflected here ~ Toni Morrison had added this ~ Chloe Anthony Wofford Morrison (1931 – August 5, 2019), known as Toni Morrison, was an American novelist, essayist, book editor, and college professor. Her first novel, The Bluest Eye, was published in 1970. The critically acclaimed Song of Solomon (1977) brought her national attention and won the National Book Critics Circle Award. In 1988, Morrison won the Pulitzer Prize for Beloved (1987); she gained worldwide recognition when she was awarded the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1993. (Wikipedia) - Anand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites