ChicagoMike Posted September 6, 2020 Hello my name is Michael, I'm 43 years old, from and living in Chicago. I'm glad to have found this website and hope to be able to both contribute as well as be able to find what information I am looking for as it relates to finding a teacher and more information about getting started the right way with Mo Pai Nei Kung. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted September 7, 2020 Greetings ChicagoMike, I'm another Chicago Michael. Sadly, Mo Pai discussions here tend to devolve. Your introduction had me going through old Mo Pai discussions from 2009, with MJJ and Tongkosong, who had experience with mainland Mo Pai and John Chang. Unfortunately you'll find mostly long circular discussions here, with a few good points scattered amongst the ruins. Because its a 'closed art' who's higher ups forbid teaching to Westerners it remains controversial. On the net you can find various people studying from the few books available on it. Most here probably recommend caution. We have a good interview with Kosta in the Author Interview section. https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/21094-taobums-qa-with-kosta-danaos/ We're an eclectic philosophy forum for learning, discussing and cultivation. Below are 3 important sections: Our Rules, The Insult Policy and our 3 Foundations. Before you join give them a read. 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Cleansox Posted September 7, 2020 21 hours ago, ChicagoMike said: finding inding a teacher and more information about getting started the right way with Mo Pai Nei Kung. 1) Post more about it in the general section and wait until a member of SOMAD contacts you. 2) Cross-reference McMillan's and Danaos' books with Damo Mitchell's material and have a go by yourself. Might want to master the "ignore" function if you pursue option one, although mods are hard on "instructional posts" these days so that might not be needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted September 7, 2020 I can't imagine any angle (good, bad, ugly, very ugly) on Mo Pai that hasn't been repeated dozens of times in the long run-on threads here. Especially the modern ones that run for dozens of pages. That being said, the oldest ones, with MJJ and Tongsokong are worthwhile because they seemed to have first hand knowledge, as does Kosta in his interview. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted September 7, 2020 23 hours ago, ChicagoMike said: Hello my name is Michael, I'm 43 years old, from and living in Chicago. I'm glad to have found this website and hope to be able to both contribute as well as be able to find what information I am looking for as it relates to finding a teacher and more information about getting started the right way with Mo Pai Nei Kung. Hi ChicagoMike, welcome to the bums. Regarding finding a (legitimate) teacher, this may be nigh on impossible for a Westerner. The following post contains pertinent info (although it is in one of the more contentious threads to be found on this site): Regarding information on the (very limited) practices which have been promoted as “mopai” the initial posts of the above linked thread may hold (some of) what you are looking for (at least what is available of it): 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted September 8, 2020 On 9/6/2020 at 5:06 PM, ChicagoMike said: Hello my name is Michael, I'm 43 years old, from and living in Chicago. I'm glad to have found this website and hope to be able to both contribute as well as be able to find what information I am looking for as it relates to finding a teacher and more information about getting started the right way with Mo Pai Nei Kung. Hi Michael, Welcome to the DaoBums. My unsolicited, personal advice is free to newcomers interested in Mo Pai... Beware! MoPai is a dead end. No accredited teachers or lineage holders exist outside of Indonesia. All authorized teachers are forbidden to teach Westerners. What little information is available (2 practices of a 72 level system) is of dubious authenticity. The right way to get started is to find a teacher of a different system. It’s important to be a discriminating consumer in the search for neigong. Keep an open mind and I hope you enjoy your time here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hannes Posted September 8, 2020 Hi and Welcome. Seeing more people people from the Chicago area makes we wonder about having a social distanced meeting somewhere along the lake, sometime. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DodgeFreeman Posted September 8, 2020 Hey guy, the mo pai stuff might not be the best start. However, if you're after results to begin opening up your meridians an circulation of chi I suggest Black Dragon Nei Gong vids on youtube that guy Amin Jani is legit. Aside from that, I did the mo pai thing an it helped me begin cultivation. Relax, go outside in the sunny area an feel the warmth of the sun, sit on a by rock or grassy area that has a chill vibe, an literally try to pull that in during abdominal breathing into your lower dantian. Then at the end of he session, feel yourself compress it internally, the gathered solar yang chi, it feels like a light cloud feeling that keeps wanting to rise. At the end of the session, do reverse breathing an send the compressed chi down to your taint area. It will shoot up spine, go to top part to head an drip downward. Take that stuff that was just made, an send it cycling your body. That begins opening up meridians and unblocking chi flow. Eventually you can build it up an store it in yourself or flow it thru your body or refine it an do bone breathing, or refine it for supernatural capability. It's a very personal choice. Key is there's a lot of naysayers out there who focus on philosophy and gain very little with their training because they focus on mental ideas an visualization. My suggestion is focus on the real stuff, experiential knowledge is key. Yang energy in my experience is radial an expansive, like the 🌞. Yin is that chill vibe like when you walk barefoot on the earth. I suggest u also get into Reiki, an do the following up above. It's a different energy but refining it that way boosts capability a bunch. Also learn Orb of Life skills, an have it constantly feed life force to your meditation area, sleep area too. An last but not least, if you can swing it, create a place that gathers different types of beneficial Chi for your practice. Ppl say energy is energy but that's like saying water is water, water can be sewer water, or mineral water, snow, etc. U learn to feel the best type for you personally. The rest u just leave alone. Hope something I said here helps 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites