ShenGoku Posted December 27, 2020 I remember having a talk with a member called infolad1 i think. He stated that we can only manifest whats meant for us. Basically, the reason why affirming/visualizing or subliminals dont work for people, is because its not something meant for them. That a divine higher mind orchestrates everything in the matrix and we are all built with different character settings in this simulation. So trying to download something thats not meant for you to download is the equivalent of trying to install GTA settings in a Sonic the Hedgehog stage. It just wont work. Basically, the law of attraction works but only relatively, thats why some ppl never manifest despite the countless time theyve invested into mental work. We can only get what is meant for us. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idiot_stimpy Posted December 27, 2020 Is it depressing due to the lack of freedom we have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddie Posted December 27, 2020 We can only manifest what we have the merit or good karma for. Manifesting it's like shopping. The goal is your shopping list. The karma is your money. If you desire to manifest something and you have the merit it will happen. If you don't have the merit it won't. That's why it seems to work for some people and not others. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, ShenGoku said: I remember having a talk with a member called infolad1 i think. He stated that we can only manifest whats meant for us. Basically, the reason why affirming/visualizing or subliminals dont work for people, is because its not something meant for them. That a divine higher mind orchestrates everything in the matrix and we are all built with different character settings in this simulation. So trying to download something thats not meant for you to download is the equivalent of trying to install GTA settings in a Sonic the Hedgehog stage. It just wont work. Basically, the law of attraction works but only relatively, thats why some ppl never manifest despite the countless time theyve invested into mental work. We can only get what is meant for us. In a way . But we are developing beings. That said, we individually exist within the range of our own 'orbits' .... or spheres. We can't cross our boundaries , YET ... we may be unaware of our potentials and how far that boundary CAN extend . . Edited December 27, 2020 by Nungali 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted December 27, 2020 5 hours ago, dmattwads said: We can only manifest what we have the merit or good karma for. Manifesting it's like shopping. The goal is your shopping list. The karma is your money. If you desire to manifest something and you have the merit it will happen. If you don't have the merit it won't. That's why it seems to work for some people and not others. Thinking on this, it seems to me “manifestation” is perpetually occurring, and “karma” seems more the means through which this manifestation arises than some currency which enables it. (Which is more than a play on semantics, if what I am attempting to express is understood... although your analogy seems somewhat fitting on a certain level.) 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddie Posted December 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, ilumairen said: Thinking on this, it seems to me “manifestation” is perpetually occurring, and “karma” seems more the means through which this manifestation arises than some currency which enables it. (Which is more than a play on semantics, if what I am attempting to express is understood... although your analogy seems somewhat fitting on a certain level.) Indeed it is, and not just the things we want since there is a thing called bad karma as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natural Posted December 27, 2020 The old adage, "Be careful what you wish for!" may be fitting. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sketch Posted December 27, 2020 "No bird soars too high If he soars on his own wings" William Blake 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
natural Posted December 27, 2020 What makes planes fly? Money, lots of money! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted December 28, 2020 Existence is not so rigidly structured. I completely disagree with your theoretical assertions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShenGoku Posted December 28, 2020 @Infolad1 is the one that put the idea in my head. And im kind of inclined to agree. Im not saying hes 100% correct but it does make sense to some degree 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShenGoku Posted December 28, 2020 I mean. Reality is kind of a simulation if you think about it. It does seem plausible why certain things are destined for others while others not so much. I would like @Infolad1 to chip in since this is his theory Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddie Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, ShenGoku said: I mean. Reality is kind of a simulation if you think about it. It does seem plausible why certain things are destined for others while others not so much. I would like @Infolad1 to chip in since this is his theory Things are destined in as much as the nature of ones karma is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShenGoku Posted December 28, 2020 2 hours ago, dmattwads said: Things are destined in as much as the nature of ones karma is. Are you saying that destiny is malleable? I think whats destined becomes pretty clear. Its why we feel pulled in certain directions as if we really dont have a choice. Like when you know youre destined to separate from someone no matter how desperately you try to save the connection Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted December 28, 2020 2 hours ago, dmattwads said: Things are destined in as much as the nature of ones karma is. Agreed in looking at things from tit-for-tat lawful perspective, yet I'd say there are "higher" forces that can choose to suspend, mitigate, supersede (to whatever degree?) and even absorb karma's (to some degree?) for purposes greater than that which seems to be only bound by or falls under karmas.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddie Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, ShenGoku said: Are you saying that destiny is malleable? Yes. Most average people live out their karma as though its fixed because they don't know any better, but if you change your karma you change your destiny. This is why people do things like the Zhunti mantra. That pull in a certain direction is karma. The reason most people don't change their karma is because they react to it thus creating more similar karma so it can have the illusion of being perpetual. But like the Buddha said all things are impermanent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted December 28, 2020 Making grand metaphysical assumptions, without many years of cultivation under your belt....is a great way to fill your life with suffering. Tread carefully.....always wear your thinking cap....or you will be taken in by all manner of tricksters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted December 28, 2020 4 hours ago, RiverSnake said: Making grand metaphysical assumptions, without many years of cultivation under your belt....is a great way to fill your life with suffering. Tread carefully.....always wear your thinking cap....or you will be taken in by all manner of tricksters. along the lines that "enlightenment" (which is outside of time) will never happen in some projected future after you have done x, y and z. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RiverSnake Posted December 29, 2020 To learn about Chemistry, you open up a Chemistry textbook. To learn about the ultimate nature of reality, you become a Mystic/Occultist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
