Kevin37 Posted April 22, 2021 I would like to know if anyone is aware of western esoteric systems that actually work? By that I mean systems that when practiced persistently over a number of years can produce tangible results. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilumairen Posted April 24, 2021 Hello Kevin37,  Welcome to the bums; your account is approved.  If you haven’t already done so please read the three topics pinned at the top of this sub forum regarding rules and expectations.  warm regards, ilu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
