old3bob Posted January 6, 2022 electrifying...;-) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted January 7, 2022 The problem is that the "piece" you are looking for is inexpressible by subject-object language. NOBODY can tell you directly what enlightenment is. Many teachings are willfully vague with the aim that your insight will suddenly fill in the blanks. This obviously is quite a rare occurrence. Despite that, what you are looking for is WRIT LARGE in ANY Buddhist sutta or sutra, in all of the basic Taoist texts, in Rumi, Sufism, the Bhagavad Gita, ad nauseam. In fact the emptiness that is so visible in the fabric of everything, once seen, is RIGHT in front of you ALL THE TIME. You somehow KNOW it is there, but can't see it. It's infuriating, right? The key is to stop grasping for it, and surrender. Let the mind become still and point it back toward itself. - The founder of Japanese Soto Zen, Eihei Dogen, said: “What is practice?” The cook: “Everywhere, nothing is hidden.” 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iliketurtles Posted January 7, 2022 17 hours ago, stirling said: The problem is that the "piece" you are looking for is inexpressible by subject-object language. NOBODY can tell you directly what enlightenment is. Many teachings are willfully vague with the aim that your insight will suddenly fill in the blanks. This obviously is quite a rare occurrence. Despite that, what you are looking for is WRIT LARGE in ANY Buddhist sutta or sutra, in all of the basic Taoist texts, in Rumi, Sufism, the Bhagavad Gita, ad nauseam. In fact the emptiness that is so visible in the fabric of everything, once seen, is RIGHT in front of you ALL THE TIME. You somehow KNOW it is there, but can't see it. It's infuriating, right? The key is to stop grasping for it, and surrender. Let the mind become still and point it back toward itself. - The founder of Japanese Soto Zen, Eihei Dogen, said: “What is practice?” The cook: “Everywhere, nothing is hidden.” I think a lot of people are searching for enlightenment as you describe it, but others have different goals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorro Dantes Posted January 8, 2022 It’s so King Kai doesn’t go beat on some bunnies that turn his thirsty confused self on. How unbecoming, of ultimate skill in an art. In any art really...why would you want only the primitive technological use of an art that wields diamond brilliancy with diamond strength function. Back to scholarly works! Learn to be light and shine like bling-a-ling for your folks & Work that ice like the great Liberace! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iliketurtles Posted January 8, 2022 36 minutes ago, Zorro Dantes said: It’s so King Kai doesn’t go beat on some bunnies that turn his thirsty confused self on. How unbecoming, of ultimate skill in an art. In any art really...why would you want only the primitive technological use of an art that wields diamond brilliancy with diamond strength function. Back to scholarly works! Learn to be light and shine like bling-a-ling for your folks & Work that ice like the great Liberace! ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleansox Posted January 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Iliketurtles said: ? Pilocybin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iliketurtles Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Zorro Dantes said: It’s so King Kai doesn’t go beat on some bunnies that turn his thirsty confused self on. How unbecoming, of ultimate skill in an art. In any art really...why would you want only the primitive technological use of an art that wields diamond brilliancy with diamond strength function. Back to scholarly works! Learn to be light and shine like bling-a-ling for your folks & Work that ice like the great Liberace! Would you mind to break down what you mean here, I've read this several times but it sounds to me like this: Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can... I caught a reference to Dragon Ball Z, Bunnies, primitive technology but I am still not sure what all this means. Edited January 8, 2022 by Iliketurtles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iliketurtles Posted January 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Cleansox said: Pilocybin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sternbach Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Fantastic! Now we know why those happy fellas are living in mushrooms! Could they actually be elves? 🤔 Edited January 9, 2022 by Michael Sternbach Afterthought added 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorro Dantes Posted January 18, 2022 I’m glad we’re on the same page then...it isn’t a convincing enough of an argument to say those who are highly imbalanced and diluted aren’t going to get their “desires” covered through the “art” by the means of oversight in development. Seems likely that would be highly irresponsible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorro Dantes Posted January 18, 2022 Example in pure technological terms if your a violent nut why would/should anybody be obligated in showing you, say... how to break a coconut Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted January 19, 2022 On 1/7/2022 at 12:18 PM, Iliketurtles said: I think a lot of people are searching for enlightenment as you describe it, but others have different goals. What is your goal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iliketurtles Posted January 19, 2022 51 minutes ago, stirling said: What is your goal? Just to cherish the miracle we call life. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Iliketurtles said: Just to cherish the miracle we call life. What good fortune - that is ALWAYS possible! It is also, along with accepting this moment as it is and stopping your attachment or aversion to it being other than it is, a fine beginning practice. IMHO seeing "this" as it truly is, gives you the best view, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted January 20, 2022 悟真篇有著最大的奧義與真實，問題是你程度太差看不懂。 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cleansox Posted January 20, 2022 难书。有些人试图从那本书中逆向工程实践，以气功告终 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralis Posted January 20, 2022 9 hours ago, awaken said: 悟真篇有著最大的奧義與真實，問題是你程度太差看不懂。 Translation please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeking Posted January 20, 2022 猴子在树上。男人只看到椰子。 成功有两个关键。首先：永远不要告诉任何人你所知道的一切。第二： Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stirling Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 2:57 AM, awaken said: 悟真篇有著最大的奧義與真實，問題是你程度太差看不懂。 Luckily the internet makes even the poorest rich with wisdom IF it is understood. https://archive.org/details/UnderstandingReality_201605 Quote “There are 84,000 doors to Enlightenment” - Ananda Ananda was being conservative, IMHO. There are INFINITE doors. The real problem is finding those that are willing go through them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
old3bob Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) lots of doors but only one "gateless gate" Edited January 21, 2022 by old3bob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) On 2022/1/21 at 3:31 AM, Cleansox said: 难书。有些人试图从那本书中逆向工程实践，以气功告终 是的，這樣的人還不少，而且從註解悟真篇的文章看起來，大多數人都是如此，只有劉一明一個人比較沒那麼離譜而已 因此我個人不自量力的，想要出一本註解悟真篇的書，正在努力當中，只是很抱歉，我只會寫中文，英文恐怕能力上有點問題，寫不出來.... Edited January 22, 2022 by awaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted January 22, 2022 On 2022/1/21 at 4:19 AM, ralis said: Translation please? 你可以用google 翻譯吧，講道家用中文不是挺好的嗎？ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
