If you want to learn Wu Wei Dan Dao, you can ask me questions here.

[awaken]

我發現西方人完全不知道為什麼肝代表青色

 

肝代表青色是來自於古老的中國定義

 

在黃帝內經當中可以很清楚的看到這個定義

 

I find that westerners have absolutely no idea why liver represents cyan

Liver represents cyan which is derived from the ancient Chinese definition

This definition can be clearly seen in the Yellow Emperor's Classic of Internal Medicine

 

肝色青，宜食甘，粳米、牛肉、棗、葵皆甘。心色赤，宜食酸，小豆、犬肉、李、韭皆酸。肺色白，宜食苦，麥、羊肉、杏、薤皆苦。脾色黃，宜食鹹，大豆、豕肉、栗、藿皆鹹。腎色黑，宜食辛，黃黍、雞肉、桃、蔥皆辛。辛散，酸收，甘緩，苦堅，鹹耎。

 

Excerpt:

肝色青，心色赤，肺色白，脾色黃，腎色黑

 

 

岐伯曰：肝为牡藏，其色青，其时春，其音角，其味酸，其日甲乙；心为牡藏，其色赤，其时夏，其日丙丁，其音征，其味苦；脾为牝藏，其色黄，其时长夏，其日戊己，其音宫，其味甘；肺为牝藏，其色白，其音商，其时秋，其日庚辛，其味辛；肾为牝藏，其色黑，其时冬，其日壬癸，其音羽，其味咸。是为五变。

 

肝的顏色並非只肝臟的顏色，而是指肝氣所代表的『生發之氣』

所以肺為下降之氣

兩者的氣是相對的，一個上升，一個下降

 

The color of the liver is not just the color of the liver, but refers to the "upward qi" represented by the liver qi

Therefore, the lungs are downward Qi

The qi of the two are opposite, one goes up and the other goes down

 

 

 

 

[Nintendao]

On 6/1/2022 at 11:50 PM, 鞏三孝 said:

eating hot dogs every day

 

Hot dogs kick ass. I like to get the $1 per pound at wallmart. They are an efficient and advanced form of protein, if you think about it. Not everyone can afford fillet mignon. Ironically, I have seen organ meats go for even more of a premium.

 

Unless you are worried about preservatives. Surely you have heard about advanced cultivators ingesting poison and not being harmed by it. So what are you afraid of?

 

I suppose vegetarianism would be ideal. Either way, as Jesus said (Mat 15:11-20): 

Quote

It is of far greater concern to watch the words that come out of your mouth, than the foods that go into it.

Food just gets crapped back out anyway.

Words can stick in the heart.

 

 

[silent thunder]

On 6/1/2022 at 8:50 PM, 鞏三孝 said:

so the books don't even need to tell us. So how does Awaken know what only the authors 1000 years ago were thinking, when nobody else knows this? 

You're seeing it then.  good.

The posturing and posing as authority.

 

[zerostao]

Please pardon my slightly off topic post here. Only slightly, IMO

 

Many university classes I’ve had the great fortune of attending had Professors. They all did actually, some professed more adamantly than others. It was my choice to attend or not, to subject myself to a term I coined, the tyranny of professors. 
   Example/ in creative writing class I was told what to write, didn’t seem right lol (at the time)

 
TDB, ever since my arrival, and I’m certain it was always like this on TDB, was that “teachers” would appear, begin posting, start threads, 97% of them Professing adamantly, thus drawing blowback and criticism from members who were adamant too in disagreement, often leading to insults exchanged, “teachers” deciding to leave or in some instances walked to the gate because things flamed up and someone lost their cool. However we choose to look at this recurring type of event, I think that many bums  sense a sense of loss had occurred.

Think of all of the schools that once posted here that no longer do. I can say that one such school I sense will no longer post here, the majority will not miss. But I digress, and that is a rare exception, I think regarding sense of loss rather than setting something entirely used up by the curb for pickup, where it may find use somewhere else. I am certainly not referring to anything related to this thread.

What can be done to prevent loss?

Anyone has the choice to log onto any thread they choose or not. If a bum isn’t finding value, or it isn’t there cup of tea, why go to a thread like that?

And just because one bum or several don’t see the value or validity,   Or like that flavor of soy sauce,  of any particular school or teacher doesn’t mean that some others look at it the same way. IMO

There is an abundance of choices and that is a good thing. Makes sense to me, that bums would gravitate to the threads that suits their taste or where they happen to be along the path at that time.

We all ain’t the same. Thank goodness.

We have some that think fajin is some great accomplishment while others may be trying to go through the gate of the sixth dimension, others may be trying to figure out how to breathe, or develop psychic abilities, some may want to heal, some might be window shopping, taste a little here, try it, go from there….not knowing what they’re looking for until they find it.

 

Bums choose the threads they visit, TDB does not endorse any. 
I have been posting recently opposing anyone to speak in absolutes or coming straight out and saying someone else is wrong. It ain’t carved in stone though, and on threads where a “teacher” is trying to lead “class” if it is their style to profess, I think we have to allow some of that. 
and will allow criticism or objections/ debate/ etc

It has always been this way on TDB but the results IMO have been a little too one sided. 
Consider to leave a thread rather than flame things up. No one is silencing anyone under my watch, except in the extreme rare cases that devolved into only trolling flame wars.  
TDB is a platform for any “teacher” to try and find a student. It has always been this way—-
Good students are hard to find—-

it has always been this way 

 

don’t be that bum who lost their cool

 

[zerostao]

On 3/30/2022 at 8:47 AM, awaken said:

If you have any questions, you can ask me here.

 

 

 

Somewhere, you said you know exactly what was meant at the time it was written a thousand years ago.

 

please overlook my lack of effort to locate that exact post.

 

my question is, is this solely due to your experience during practice?

 

And I have a follow up question;

how are you 100% certain the writings did not influence your experience?

 The power of suggestion can be a powerful thing.

  
Also, another question. Is this spontaneous gong is entirely functional due to the individual’s own effort and does not have any guidance from celestial or other dimensional sources?

Edited June 5, 2022 by zerostao

[awaken]

4 hours ago, zerostao said:

 

Somewhere, you said you know exactly what was meant at the time it was written a thousand years ago.

 

please overlook my lack of effort to locate that exact post.

 

my question is, is this solely due to your experience during practice?

 

And I have a follow up question;

how are you 100% certain the writings did not influence your experience?

 The power of suggestion can be a powerful thing.

  
Also, another question. Is this spontaneous gong is entirely functional due to the individual’s own effort and does not have any guidance from celestial or other dimensional sources?

 

你這個問題，在十幾年前就有人問過了

 

甚至有人說這是我個人的經驗，不代表實際上的效果

 

所以我在2014年開始在QQ開課程

 

目前為止，持續每個月至少四篇日記，能堅持的人，大約有二十人

 

我的教學一向透過日記，而非透過課程，因為程度不到的人，是聽不懂很多內在的教學的

 

所以你這句話的問題，我也一樣，邀請你一起來練，跟著我一起練，你就會知道語言傳達的困難所在

 

如果你對我的話感到質疑，請你去訪問我的學生，聽聽他們怎麼說

 

我的口才不好，但是我的某些學生比我優秀很多，相信他們會給你更科學的回答，他們在ＱＱ

 

ＱＱ Group ID:159754069

 

最近有一個學生是北京大學的法學博士，口才非常好，也曾經在TED演講，你可以跟他請教

 

 

 

 

自發功本來就是人體本能之一，我不知道你為什麼會問這個問題，跟天體有關? 跟其他次元有關？

你如何認定天體和其他次元存在？

自發功就是放鬆，讓身體自由，如此而已，為什麼要跟天體和其他次元有關？

我們如果從坐姿開始練功，有一個很大的問題，就是氣太弱

自發功的氣強很多，因此可以很快地打通經脈，累積足夠的氣，才能夠順利的轉化成光

雖然像我這樣天生可以見光的人，不需要自發功就可以見光

但是如果沒有自發功，我的光依舊只能停留在烏肝的狀態，無法進化

所以我在2004年開始練自發功，從那時候開始，我的氣變強了

開始產生陽生進化，才終於搞清楚經典在寫什麼

 

自發功的好處就是氣強，而且不限制氣的方向，因此符合自然演化的原則

可以讓氣很順利的演化成光

也可以有足夠強的氣讓烏肝光演化成更高級的光

就是這個目的而已

 

跟怪力亂神完全無關

 

我當然知道有很多自發功教學者跟怪力亂神結合

但是佛教也很多跟怪力亂神結合

道教也很多跟怪力亂神結合

人的思想如果只有怪力亂神，不管他碰到什麼，都會扭曲成怪力亂神

 

 

Your question was asked more than ten years ago.

Some people even say that this is my personal experience and does not represent the actual effect

So I started teaching courses in QQ in 2014

So far, my students have kept at least four diaries every month, and there are about twenty people who can stick to it.

My teaching has always been through diaries, not through courses, because people who are not at the level can't understand a lot of inner teaching

So the question of your sentence, I am the same, invite you to practice together, practice with me, you will know the difficulty of language communication

If you have doubts about what I say, please visit my students and hear what they have to say

My eloquence is not good, but some of my students are much better than me. I believe they will give you more scientific answers. They are in QQ

 

ＱＱ Group ID:159754069

 

 

Recently, a student is a doctor of law from Peking University. He is very good expressiveness and once gave a speech at TED. You can ask him for advice.

 

 

Spontaneous gong is one of the instincts of the human body. I don’t know why you ask this question. Is it related to celestial bodies? Is it related to other dimensions?

How do you recognize that celestial bodies and other dimensions exist?

Spontaneous gong is to relax and make the body free, that's all, why should it be related to celestial bodies and other dimensions?

If we start practicing from the sitting position, there is a big problem, that is, the qi is too weak

The qi of spontaneous gong is very strong, so it can quickly open up the meridians and accumulate enough qi before it can be smoothly transformed into light

Although someone like me who can see light by nature can see light without spontaneous gong

But if there is no spontaneous gong, my light can only stay in the state of black liver and cannot evolve

So I started practicing spontaneous gong in 2004, and since then, my qi has become stronger

It began to produce positive evolution, and finally figured out what the classics were writing about

The advantage of spontaneous gong is that the qi is strong, and it does not restrict the direction of the qi, so it conforms to the principle of natural evolution

It can make Qi evolve into light smoothly

There can also be strong enough qi for the black liver light to evolve into a more advanced light

that's the purpose

It has nothing to do with monsters or supernatural event

Of course I know that there are a lot of spontaneous practitioners who have combined with strange powers.

But Buddhism is also a lot of combination with strange power and chaos gods

Taoism is also often combined with strange power and chaos gods

If a person's mind only has strange powers and chaos, no matter what he encounters, it will be twisted into strange powers and chaos.

 

你還有一個問題，這些著作有沒有影響到我的體驗

我在2011年練到大型圓月和其他三階段陽生的內景

當時我很疑惑，我到處問，但是沒有人可以給我確切的答案

後來只好去道家經典當中找答案，才在悟真篇，參同契這些書當中找到答案

所以這些著作是我後來才讀的

 

帶領我練到三階段陽生的關鍵，不是悟真篇也不是參同契，而是關鍵兩個人，一個是克里希那穆提，一個是林孝宗

克里希那穆提的從已知中解脫讓我知道心的限制

林孝宗讓我知道自發功的力量

 

You have another question, did these writings affect my experience?

I practiced the large full moon and other three-stage yangsheng interior scenes in 2011

I was very confused at the time, I asked everywhere, but no one could give me a definite answer

Later, I had to go to the Taoist classics to find the answer, and then I found the answer in the books such as Wuzhen chapter and Shentongqi.

So these books are what I read later

The key to leading me to practice the three stages of yangsheng is not the realization of
WuZenPian or CantonQi, but the key to two people, one is Krishnamurti and the other is Lin Xiaozong

Krishnamurti's liberation from the known made me aware of the limitations of the mind and thoughts

Lin Xiaozong let me know the power of spontaneous gong

 

 

 

http://www.j-krishnamurti.org/

 

當然除了這兩人以外，還有其他關鍵的人，太多了

 

例如中醫經典黃帝內經讓我知道氣的層次，氣不是只有在經脈，還包含在臟腑

當我練自發功的同時，我也開始學習中醫

所以我已經學習中醫18年了

我的中醫老師是倪海廈

Of course, in addition to these two people, there are other key people, too many

For example, the Huangdi Nei Jing, a classic of traditional Chinese medicine, let me know the level of qi. Qi is not only in the meridians, but also in the zang-fu organs

While I practiced spontaneous gong, I also started to learn Chinese medicine

So I have been studying Chinese medicine for 18 years

My TCM teacher is Ni Haixia

 

https://www.hantang.com/

 

還有對玄關的認識，主要的啟發者是黃元吉和李涵虛

There is also the understanding of Xiuan Guang, the main inspiration is Huang Yuanji and Li Hanxu

 

對烏肝兔髓的認識，主要的啟發者是張伯端

The main inspiration for the understanding of black liver and rabbit marrow is Zhang Boduan

 

對四禪八定的認識，主要來自佛陀的阿含經

 

 

還有很多其他的人，說太多可能你也不清楚

 

因為很多都是古代的人

The understanding of the Four Dhyanas and Eight Concentrations mainly comes from the Buddha's Ahan Sutra

There are many other people, if you say too much, you may not know

Because many are ancient

 

我經常查閱佛經的兩個網站

I often consult two websites of Buddhist scriptures

 

https://agama.buddhason.org/SA/index.htm

https://cbetaonline.dila.edu.tw/en/

 

 

昨天我就跟我的學生在談論宗喀巴的問題

我給了他們一個功課

要求他們在宗喀巴的一篇文章當中，找出合理的和不合理的地方

其中一個學生找到了

 

Yesterday I was talking about Tsongkhapa with my students

I gave them a homework

Ask them to identify what's reasonable and what's not in one of Tsongkhapa's essays

One of the students found

 

 

《密宗道次第廣論》卷5：「外四支念誦中初事支者，於自生為本尊之前應修空性，當如是思。自與本尊俱無自性，自身五蘊依止四大諸佛了達於勝義中猶如虛空，於名言中猶如影像。除彼所見更無過上，故自亦應如彼所見而正通達。自及所修本尊俱無自性，是緣起故，猶如影像。次想自與本尊無自性之空性，二無分別。必須獲得堅固定解，乃生本尊。《大日經》云：「若諸菩薩由密咒門行菩薩行，當於身中生起身色。較正等覺更無過上。如我之眼耳鼻舌身是四大種所攝，自性本空，唯假名攝，等同虛空。從業因起不可取執，猶如影像。如是如來現正等覺，亦是互依緣起相續。凡是緣生即同影像。由是因緣，互緣起故，天即是我，我即是天。如是應由身色生起天身。」四部修天之前皆應如是修習空性，若未以見抉擇，唯誦娑拔嚩等真言，收攝現事，全無心要。略釋論中亦引以離一異正理決擇蘊無自性修天瑜伽之教。又從空中起天之法，《略釋論》云：「修本尊瑜伽師，此世俗次第中明二種相，一者謂自心相離一切相，變成月輪等相，而修自身為天。」此說有先修月輪等而生，及不修彼等頓生之二法。說是此經〈天真實品〉等中所說。現譯經中缺此。若依前法，先想自心變為圓滿月輪，上有嗡字。從彼收放光明，自身變成毘盧遮那佛。一面二臂，手結定印。其身金色光鬘圍繞，坐白蓮花及月輪座，頭戴寶冠頂有髮髻，身穿絹羅上下二衣。咒印加持之法，廣略隨宜，茲不詳述。次於前面修與自相同之如來，是為第二事支。次於彼尊心間月輪，安布所誦咒鬘，是為四支念誦。此如《大日經》云：「字與字相合，如是事成事，善防護心意，持誦一洛叉。字是菩提心，第二是為聲，事於自身處，當立自為天，應知第二事，是佛兩足尊。咒師於彼心，想清淨月輪，諸字如次第，於中善安布，當加收攝句，修習命及力。命即說為風，說力名為念，防護此二已，先善修承事。」二種字者，兩部《大日經》釋皆未明說。然如前引《後靜慮釋》，說是四支中之月輪咒鬘。有說為修天時之月輪及咒者，非是經義。防護命力，先於明顯天身求安住分，次緣諸字修念誦等，與前事部所說皆同。此經又云：「咒師一月中，善防護念誦，先行密咒者，一事入一事，大稱一切佛，說名為前行。」此說修習一月，一事入一事者，謂緣前方心間月輪所布咒鬘。若生疲厭，可與自心展轉而修。經說意中念誦，且舉一例，俱說意誦與微誦故。《大日經》云：「或由意持誦，或微聲二相，勝瑜伽當觀。」又此二中，先修微聲念誦。意念誦時遮止命力，與前說同。」(CBETA 2022.Q1, B10, no. 68, p. 818a1-b1)

 

 

 

不過我很懷疑這裡有人可以看得出來問題所在

But I doubt anyone here can see the problem

Edited June 5, 2022 by zerostao
Edited only what was posted by me in the quote box. Not have rather than have.

[鞏三孝]

6 hours ago, silent thunder said:

You're seeing it then.  good.

The posturing and posing as authority.

 

Needing to feel absolute authority...

So easy to unintentionally become an authoritarian. 

 

76.人之生也柔弱，其死也堅強；萬物、草木之生也柔脆，其死也枯槁。 故堅強者，死之徒；柔弱者，生之徒。是以兵強則不勝，木強則折。強大處下， 柔弱處上。
In life, man is supple and tender; in death, he becomes rigid and stark. Myriad things such as grass and trees are supple and frail in life, and shrivelled and dry in death. Therefore, the rigid and stark are disciples of death, while the supple and weak are disciples of life. Therefore the army that uses strength cannot win, the tree that stands firm will break. The strong and large are subordinate, the soft and weak are superior.

 

{not my own translation, just borrowing }

[awaken]

 

 

負面能量太多了

 

來聽首好歌吧

come listen to a good song

 

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[00:02.549]编曲：岑思源
[00:27.018]遁出红尘
[00:30.344]长路不必问归程
[00:33.935]心境如止水
[00:36.326]内里有乾坤
[00:41.285]半生浮沉
[00:44.583]莫问那旧事前尘
[00:48.049]愿这一双手
[00:50.291]也能摘下星辰
[00:54.994]修我一颗凡心
[00:56.914]敛我半世癫狂之梦
[01:02.164]痴情的人
[01:04.145]心跳如春雨也纷纷
[01:09.254]点燃一盏明灯
[01:11.299]教我参破万物众生
[01:16.238]是幻是空
[01:18.630]谁又带走我的灵魂
[01:23.848]喔噢
[01:26.911]任我 跌跌宕宕 浮浮沉沉 过一生
[01:30.832]也敢飞蛾扑火痛快爱与恨
[01:34.601]太多纷扰 太多执念 何必太认真
[01:41.195]看得 真真切切 明明白白 每一寸
[01:45.463]谁来与我推开觉悟这扇门
[01:49.037]聚散离合 一笑而过 你我皆凡人
[01:58.472]遁出红尘
[02:01.165]长路不必问归程
[02:04.636]心境如止水
[02:06.829]内里有乾坤
[02:11.548]修我一颗凡心
[02:13.368]敛我半世癫狂之梦
[02:18.731]痴情的人
[02:20.459]心跳如春雨也纷纷
[02:25.534]点燃一盏明灯
[02:27.521]教我参破万物众生
[02:33.223]是幻是空
[02:34.804]谁又带走我的灵魂
[02:39.934]喔噢
[02:43.387]任我 跌跌宕宕 浮浮沉沉 过一生
[02:47.618]也敢飞蛾扑火痛快爱与恨
[02:50.803]太多纷扰 太多执念 何必太认真
[02:57.546]看得 真真切切 明明白白 每一寸
[03:01.902]谁来与我推开觉悟这扇门
[03:05.460]聚散离合 一笑而过 你我皆凡人
[03:25.960]任我 跌跌宕宕 浮浮沉沉 过一生
[03:30.340]也敢飞蛾扑火痛快爱与恨
[03:33.959]太多纷扰 太多执念 何必太认真
[03:40.223]看得 真真切切 明明白白 每一寸
[03:44.616]谁来与我推开觉悟这扇门
[03:48.262]聚散离合 一笑而过 你我皆凡人

 

[00:00.849] Lyricist: Dai Yuedong/Wang Yuren/Wangyu
[00:02.549]Arrangement: Cen Siyuan
[00:27.018]Escape from the world
[00:30.344]There is no need to ask the way back
[00:33.935]The mood is like still water
[00:36.326]There is a world inside
[00:41.285]Half life ups and downs
[00:44.583]Don't ask about the past
[00:48.049]May the hands
[00:50.291]I can pick up the stars
[00:54.994]Fix my heart
[00:56.914]A half-life mad dream
[01:02.164]Infatuation
[01:04.145]Heartbeat like spring rain
[01:09.254]Light a beacon
[01:11.299]Teach me to break through all living beings
[01:16.238]Is it phantom or empty
[01:18.630]Who took my soul
[01:23.848]Wow
[01:26.911]Let me go through ups and downs, ups and downs, live a life
[01:30.832]I dare to fly into the fire and love and hate
[01:34.601]Too much trouble, too much obsession, why take it too seriously
[01:41.195]I can see it clearly and clearly, every inch
[01:45.463]Who will push the door of enlightenment with me
[01:49.037]Gathering, breaking, and laughing, you and I are both mortals
[01:58.472]Escape from the world
[02:01.165]There is no need to ask the way back
[02:04.636]The mood is like still water
[02:06.829]There is a universe inside
[02:11.548]Fix my heart
[02:13.368]Retain my half-life crazy dream
[02:18.731]Infatuation
[02:20.459]Heartbeat like spring rain
[02:25.534]Light a beacon
[02:27.521]Teach me to break through all living beings
[02:33.223]Is it illusory or empty
[02:34.804]Who took my soul
[02:39.934]Ooh
[02:43.387]Let me go through ups and downs, ups and downs, live a life
[02:47.618]I dare to fly into the fire and love and hate
[02:50.803]Too much trouble, too much obsession, why take it too seriously
[02:57.546]I can see it clearly and clearly, every inch
[03:01.902]Who will push the door of enlightenment with me
[03:05.460]Gathering, breaking, and laughing, you and I are both mortals
[03:25.960]Let me go through ups and downs, ups and downs, live a life
[03:30.340]Also dare to fly into the fire, love and hate
[03:33.959]Too much trouble, too much obsession, why take it too seriously
[03:40.223]I can see it clearly and clearly, every inch
[03:44.616]Who will push the door of enlightenment with me
[03:48.262]Gathering, breaking, and laughing, you and I are both mortals

Edited June 5, 2022 by awaken

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

16 hours ago, silent thunder said:

You're seeing it then.  good.

The posturing and posing as authority.

 

Everyone is seeing it

[Cobie]

11 hours ago, awaken said:

… 自發功就是放鬆，讓身體自由，如此而已 …  

True. That’s how I did it. : )

 

 

Edited June 5, 2022 by Cobie

[awaken]

56 minutes ago, Cobie said:

True. That’s how I did it. : )

 

 

 

只有自發功是不夠的

你還要懂中觀

 

 

[Cobie]

13 minutes ago, awaken said:

… 你還要懂中觀

I have always understood this, was born that way. : )

 

 

Edited June 5, 2022 by Cobie

[awaken]

紅樓夢：任憑弱水三千，我只取一瓢飲

 

就等那個明眼人的出現

 

Dream of Red Mansions:
Even if there are three thousand weak rivers, I will only take a scoop to drink

 

Just waiting for the person with bright eyes

 

丹道的傳遞

會的人不需要多

只要一個真正練到的人

就夠了

 

Dao's delivery

No need for more people

As long as one really reached

enough

 

 

[awaken]

5 minutes ago, Cobie said:

I understood this from birth. : )

 

我知道你不懂

但是我不想告訴你為什麼

 

這裡我還沒看到一個懂的

包含你在內

 

 

 

 

Edited June 5, 2022 by awaken

[zerostao]

1 hour ago, Pak_Satrio said:

Everyone is seeing it

So? So what?

[awaken]

15 hours ago, zerostao said:

Please pardon my slightly off topic post here. Only slightly, IMO

 

Many university classes I’ve had the great fortune of attending had Professors. They all did actually, some professed more adamantly than others. It was my choice to attend or not, to subject myself to a term I coined, the tyranny of professors. 
   Example/ in creative writing class I was told what to write, didn’t seem right lol (at the time)

 
TDB, ever since my arrival, and I’m certain it was always like this on TDB, was that “teachers” would appear, begin posting, start threads, 97% of them Professing adamantly, thus drawing blowback and criticism from members who were adamant too in disagreement, often leading to insults exchanged, “teachers” deciding to leave or in some instances walked to the gate because things flamed up and someone lost their cool. However we choose to look at this recurring type of event, I think that many bums  sense a sense of loss had occurred.

Think of all of the schools that once posted here that no longer do. I can say that one such school I sense will no longer post here, the majority will not miss. But I digress, and that is a rare exception, I think regarding sense of loss rather than setting something entirely used up by the curb for pickup, where it may find use somewhere else. I am certainly not referring to anything related to this thread.

What can be done to prevent loss?

Anyone has the choice to log onto any thread they choose or not. If a bum isn’t finding value, or it isn’t there cup of tea, why go to a thread like that?

And just because one bum or several don’t see the value or validity,   Or like that flavor of soy sauce,  of any particular school or teacher doesn’t mean that some others look at it the same way. IMO

There is an abundance of choices and that is a good thing. Makes sense to me, that bums would gravitate to the threads that suits their taste or where they happen to be along the path at that time.

We all ain’t the same. Thank goodness.

We have some that think fajin is some great accomplishment while others may be trying to go through the gate of the sixth dimension, others may be trying to figure out how to breathe, or develop psychic abilities, some may want to heal, some might be window shopping, taste a little here, try it, go from there….not knowing what they’re looking for until they find it.

 

Bums choose the threads they visit, TDB does not endorse any. 
I have been posting recently opposing anyone to speak in absolutes or coming straight out and saying someone else is wrong. It ain’t carved in stone though, and on threads where a “teacher” is trying to lead “class” if it is their style to profess, I think we have to allow some of that. 
and will allow criticism or objections/ debate/ etc

It has always been this way on TDB but the results IMO have been a little too one sided. 
Consider to leave a thread rather than flame things up. No one is silencing anyone under my watch, except in the extreme rare cases that devolved into only trolling flame wars.  
TDB is a platform for any “teacher” to try and find a student. It has always been this way—-
Good students are hard to find—-

it has always been this way 

 

don’t be that bum who lost their cool

 

 

這裡確實有很多人喜歡對人做人身攻擊

人的素質就是這樣

有好的

也有壞的

壞的，我們遠離他，忽略他

好的，我們結交，交談

 

論壇本來就是很亂的地方

這不是我第一個待過的論壇

也不是我唯一待過的論壇

 

這裡有你已經很好了

你是一個有智慧的人

感謝有你

 

關於所謂的老師教學

我並非是自願成為老師的

而是當我發現我講的東西，幾乎每個人都聽不懂的時候

我就知道，我必須把對方教會，這樣才有辦法溝通

 

內在的世界，如果沒有到某一個程度，是完全無法溝通的

跟一百個瞎子講顏色，不如找一個看得見的人講，是吧？

 

There are indeed a lot of people here who like to make personal attacks on others

Such is the quality of man

have good

also bad

bad, we stay away from him, ignore him

good, let's make friends and talk

 

Forums are inherently messy places

This isn't the first forum I've been to

Nor is it the only forum I've been on

 

It's good to have you here

you are a wise man

grateful to have you

 

About the so-called teacher teaching

I didn't volunteer to be a teacher

It's when I find out what I'm saying that almost everyone doesn't understand

I knew that I had to teach them so that I could communicate with them

The inner world, if not to a certain point, is completely incommunicable

Talking to a hundred blind men about color is worse than talking to someone who can see, right?

 

 

[awaken]

公佈答案

 

自心相離一切相，變成月輪

Publish the answer

 

The mind is separated from all appearances and (the light) becomes the moon wheel

 

我的教學就是『知幻即離』，但是如果沒有『幻』，就很難告訴學生如何『離』

 

如果沒有師生關係，就很難告訴對方什麼是『幻』，因為執迷於幻境者，是不會承認自己沈迷幻境的

 

My teaching is to "getting away from the illusion is to know what is illusion", but if there is no "illusion", it is difficult to tell the students how to "leave"

If there is no teacher-student relationship, it is difficult to tell him what "illusion" is, because those who are obsessed with illusion will not admit that they are addicted to illusion

 

如果沒有做到『知幻即離』，永遠也練不出圓月

If you don't achieve "getting away from the illusion is to know what is illusion", you will never be able to reach the full moon

 

因為內在的圓月不是圓月，而是虛空的中脈發出的純白亮光

For the inner full moon is not a full moon, but a pure white light from the central vein of the empty

 

我所教的，就是經典當中所講的究竟法

所以面對資質太差的人，我別無選擇，只能遠離這些人

因為這是一條非常困難的道路

 

What I teach is the ultimate Dharma taught in the scriptures

So in the face of people with poor qualifications, I have no choice but to stay away from these people

Because it's a very difficult road

 

如果沒有通透的心靈，只有一顆充滿慾望的心，是沒辦法練的

If there is no transparent mind, only a heart full of desire, there is no way to cultivate

Edited June 5, 2022 by awaken

[awaken]

我在網路上和人互動有給自己立下一些規則，以免我浪費太多時間在和他人爭論上

例如不和無心修行的人溝通

當我確認某個人完全沒有希望可以達到三階段陽生的可能，我就會放棄跟這個人溝通

因為我花費時間在網路上的唯一原因，就是找出那個有希望練出三階段陽生的人

 

 

I have some rules for myself when interacting with people online so that I don't waste too much time arguing with others

For example, do not communicate with people who do not want to cultivate

When I confirm that there is absolutely no hope for someone to reach the third stage of yang birth, I will give up communicating with this person

Because the only reason I spend time on the internet is to find out who has the potential to reach the third stage of yangsheng

 

我並非整天無所事事，上網只是為了找人聊天

事實上我完全不需要找人聊天

我上網就是為了找真正有心的修行者

 

I'm not doing nothing all day, just surfing the web to find someone to chat with

In fact I don't need anyone to chat at all

I go online just to find genuine practitioners

 

所以當你被我認定為沒有希望的人的時候

我只能跟你抱歉，我的時間有限

只想把時間留給重要的人

 

So when you were identified as hopeless by me

I can only apologize to you, my time is limited

I just want to save time for the important people

 

我發現這裡有很多人喜歡找人鬥嘴

當然這是論壇的活力來源

我也曾經遵循過這樣的傳統

但是我發現這對我來說太過浪費精力

所以當我發現有這樣的人的時候，我就把這樣的人列入忽略名單

這樣可以避免浪費太多時間在不想修煉的人身上

可以把時間集中在想修煉的人身上

 

I see a lot of people here who like to have a fight

Of course this is the source of the forum's vitality

I have followed this tradition

But I find it too wasteful for me

So when I find someone like that, I put someone like that on the ignore list

This can avoid wasting too much time on people who don't want to cultivate

Then I can focus my time on those who want to cultivate

 

 

[awaken]

我的教學是透過日記的

並非有固定的方法

我會檢查你的修煉方式是否能夠產生演化

因為丹道修煉的重點在於演化

如果你能產生演化的能力

就能夠從氣演化成光和入定，再演化成陽生，產生金丹

 

所以如果你有興趣跟著我一起練無為丹道

請你發私訊給我，我會在私人討論區開設一個日記主題給你

然後在你的日記當中找出可以讓你進步的建議

這是我的教學方式

 

My teaching is through journaling

There is no set way

I will check to see if your cultivation can evolve

Because the focus of alchemy cultivation lies in evolution

If you can generate the ability to evolve

It will be able to evolve from Qi to light and samadhi, and then evolve into Yang Sheng, resulting in Jin Dan.

So if you are interested in cultivating Wuwei Dan Dao with me

Please send me a private message and I will open a diary topic for you in the private discussion area

Then look in your journal for suggestions for improvement

This is how I teach

[awaken]

而對於初學者採用自發功的原因，是因為自發功沒有限制姿勢

由於自發功沒有姿勢上的限制，而是姿勢和動作跟著氣

因此能夠讓氣自由的去打通經脈

這種讓氣自由的方式，可以引發強力的氣感，可以很快地打通經脈

比坐著不動等可以有更快的效果

For beginners, the reason for using spontaneous exercise is because there is no limit to the posture of spontaneous exercise.

Since spontaneous gong is not limited by posture, posture and action follow the qi

Therefore, the qi can be freed to open up the meridians

This way of letting qi free can induce a strong sense of qi, and can quickly open up the meridians

Faster results than sitting still , standing still , fixed posture or fixed movements.

 

Therefore, I will ask the beginners to start from spontaneous gong.

I give another topic about spontaneous gong.

Please read them first.

 

 

[awaken]

竟然有人開主題問打開經脈是什麼感覺

這有點誇張了

打開經脈又不是什麼困難的事情，為什麼自己不去練一練就知道了

 

Someone opened a topic and asked what it felt like to open the meridians

That's a bit of an exaggeration

It is not difficult to open the meridians, why don't you practice it and you will know

 

經脈很複雜，不是單一感覺

最早的氣感是以一種重心的偏移方式出現，可能會感受到前後晃

也可能會感受到漲大

可能感受到往上飄

可能感受到地震

進階一點會感受到皮膚有弱電流感

可能先從手的皮膚開始

然後頭的皮膚

然後全身的皮膚

進階一點可能會感受到體內有氣在流動

可能一樣先從手開始

腹部

胸部

頭部

進階一點可能會感受到氣在體內轉圈

比較常發生的是腹部

進階一點可能會感受到氣在體內跳動

比較常發生的是腹部

後背部

後腦勺

頭頂

雙手掌也會

甚至腳底也會

進階一點可能也會感覺到旋轉的氣從腹部往上盤旋

可能會感覺到雙手的氣牽引著身體裡面的氣

可能會感覺到當意念在哪裡，就可以在身體任意的地方產生氣

進階一點可能會感覺到骨頭內有弱電流在移動

脊椎骨

頭骨

胸骨

肋骨

大腿骨

小腿脛骨

腳踝骨

鼻樑骨

排壞氣的時候也會感覺到體內的壞氣透過手或腳排出去

會感覺到有一股熱氣沿著大腿從腳排出去

也會感覺熱氣在體內蒸發，從頭頂蒸發出去

其他的等想到再說

 

Meridians are complex, not a single feeling

The earliest sense of air is a shift in the center of gravity, and you may feel the back and forth swaying

You may also experience an increase

may feel floating upwards

earthquake may be felt

A little more advanced, you will feel a weak current on the skin

May start with the skin of the hands

then the skin of the head

Then the whole body skin

If you advance a bit, you may feel that there is Qi flowing in your body

Might as well start with hands

abdomen

Chest

head

If you advance a little, you may feel the qi circle in the body

more common in the abdomen

If you advance a little, you may feel the qi beating in your body

more common in the abdomen

back

back of head

overhead

palms will also

even the soles of the feet

A little advanced, you may also feel the swirling air circling upwards from the abdomen

You may feel the chi in your hands pulling the chi in your body

You may feel that wherever your mind is, you can generate qi anywhere in your body

A little more advanced you may feel a weak current moving in the bones

spine

skull

sternum

rib cage

thigh bone

calf tibia

ankle bone

nasal bridge

When expelling badQi, you will also feel the bad Qi in your body being discharged through your hands or feet

You will feel a rush of heat escaping from your feet along your thighs

You will also feel the heat evaporating in your body and evaporating from the top of your head

Wait for the others to come to mind

Edited June 11, 2022 by awaken

[awaken]

當然我也產生過一些奇怪的氣感

 

例如額頭表皮突然感覺到有爆裂的氣感

好像有一團氣在我的額頭爆炸了

 

例如我感覺到我的額頭開了一個大洞

這個洞大概有八公分直徑寬

 

例如我感覺到我的頭頂開了一個大洞

這個大洞大概跟我的頭一樣寬

 

例如我可以透過網路感覺到一個搬運法練習者腹部瘋狂跳動的氣感

 

例如我可以透過網路感覺到一個搬運法背部上升的氣流感

 

例如我可以透過網路感覺到一個人的身體壞氣很重

 

例如我可以感覺到有人突然在討厭我，我的頭皮刷過一層很詭異的電流感

 

例如我可以感覺到有人在喜歡我，我的心輪刷過一陣熱血的心動感

當然這個人我下次就不敢跟他見面了，避免有爭議

 

Of course, I also had some strange Qi sense

For example, the epidermis of the forehead suddenly feels a burst of Qi

It seems like a puff of qi exploded in my forehead

 

For example I feel a big hole in my forehead

The hole is about eight centimeters in diameter.

 

For example I feel a big hole in the top of my head

This big hole is about as wide as my head

 

For example, I can feel the frantic beating of the abdomen of a transfer method practitioner through the Internet

For example, I can feel the wind rising on the back of a transfer method through the Internet

For example, I can feel a person's body's bad Qi through the Internet

For example, I can feel someone hate me all of a sudden, and my scalp is brushed with a weird electric current

For example, I can feel that someone is liking me, and my heart chakra is brushed with a warm heart

Of course, I won't dare to meet him next time to avoid disputes.

 

我也能透過網路感受到有人在生氣，胸腔有一股煩躁的氣

I can also feel that someone is angry through the Internet, and there is a sense of irritability in my chest

 

 

Edited June 11, 2022 by awaken

[鞏三孝]

12 hours ago, awaken said:

For example, I can feel the frantic beating of the abdomen of a transfer method practitioner through the Internet

For example, I can feel the wind rising on the back of a transfer method through the Internet

For example, I can feel a person's body's bad Qi through the Internet

 

你確定你沒有在高估你的能力嗎？你誤判了我是“搬運法”的修煉者，説了你能知道我在練這些方法，而我絕對不在練。

 

Are you sure you are not overestimating your abilities? You mistakenly judged that I was a practitioner of the "Transportation Method", and said that you knew that I was practicing these methods, but I was definitely not practicing.

 

12 hours ago, awaken said:

我也能透過網路感受到有人在生氣，胸腔有一股煩躁的氣

I can also feel that someone is angry through the Internet, and there is a sense of irritability in my chest

 

怎麽確定那個“煩躁的氣"的來源沒有在自身内？

How can you be sure that the source of that "irritable qi" is not within yourself?

 

這些不只是修辭性的問句。遠端診斷是需要特殊訓練的，否則誤判很容易。

These are not just rhetorical questions. Remote diagnosis requires special training, otherwise misjudgment is easy.

[awaken]

這些氣感都不是重點

都只是過程

 

即使能感受到他人的氣

也只是類似多一個感官而已

 

有時候也不是好事

例如遇到心念不善之人，經常會感受到不好的氣場

 

These scents are not the point

it's just a process

Even if you can feel the Qi of others

It's just like one more sense

Sometimes it's not good

For example, if you meet someone with bad thoughts, you will often feel a bad aura.

 

就像經過一間排放廢氣的塑膠工廠一樣

當下只想趕緊離開

It's like passing through a plastic factory that emits exhaust fumes

 just want to leave now

 

 

 

 

Edited June 11, 2022 by awaken

[awaken]

但是對一個初學者來說

 

只要做到『性住氣自回，動靜知宗祖』也就夠了

 

But for a beginner

 

you just need to have the attitude of 'Keep Xin and then Qi will return itself. No matter movements or stillness, you all know what is the main role inside your heart' is enough.

 

 

Edited June 11, 2022 by awaken