The reason why a person who only has qi in his lower abdomen can't understand the Huang Tingjing

[awaken]

陽氣上浮稱為神頂歸天是很不恰當的，因為陽氣上浮是一個初學者會出現的現象

陽氣上浮是本來就會發生的自然現象

陽氣上浮會產生身體上浮的假象

太乙金華宗旨將許多非常初級的氣感現象用自創的高等名詞欺騙世人

這只能欺騙到初學者

卻騙不到老修行

 

It is very inappropriate to call the rising of yang qi to the sky to {神歸頂天}, because the rising of yang qi is a phenomenon that occurs for beginners

The rising of yang energy is a natural phenomenon that will occur

Yang qi floating up will create the illusion of body floating

The purpose of Taiyi Jinhua is to deceive the world by using self-created high-level nouns with many very elementary Qi sensation phenomena.

This can only fool beginners

But can't deceive the old practice

 

神不會歸頂天，只有陽氣會往上衝

神只能演化，成日魂和月魄，然後最後成胎仙

 

shen will not return to the sky, only yang will rush upward

Shen can only evolve, become sun souls and moon souls, and finally become womb immortals

 

 

[awaken]

太乙金華宗旨所講的『虛室生白』是最初級的烏肝

最初級的烏肝是白色的

因為第三眼還沒演化出分辨顏色的能力

必須要練到更進階的程度，才會出現彩色的烏肝

 

Taiyi Jinhua's purpose of "empty room produces white" is the most basic black liver

The most basic black liver is white

Because the third eye has not yet evolved the ability to distinguish colors

You have to practice to a more advanced level before you can see colored black liver

[awaken]

神入谷中不是聽到別人說話的聲音

聽到別人說話的聲音這是感官沒有止息

如果感官止息入定，則不會聽到別人的聲音

如果有聽到也像塞了耳塞一樣

 

神入谷中意思是陽神，也就是烏肝，進入玄關竅

烏肝就是陽神

兔髓就是陰神

這是參同契說的

 

太乙金華宗旨的作者連什麼是烏肝兔髓都不知道，就在亂吹牛

標準的假經典

 

It is not to hear the voice of others speaking

Hearing other people's voices is the sense that the senses never stop

If the senses cease to be in concentration, one will not hear the voices of others

If one hear it, it's like plugging in earplugs

Shen Ruguzhong means Yang Shen, that is, black liver, entering Xiuan guang

Black Liver is  Yang shen

Rabbit marrow is yin shen

This is what Cantonqi said

The author of Taiyi Jinhua Aim does not even know what black liver and rabbit marrow is, so he is just bragging

standard fake classic

 

太乙金華宗旨的作者是一個只有烏肝程度的人所寫出來的文章

這個人連兔髓都沒有練出來

更別說陽生了

但是這本書卻掛上呂祖的名字

欺騙世人

 

The author of Taiyi Jinhua Aim is an article written by a person with only black liver level

This man didn't even practice rabbit marrow.

Not to mention Yang Sheng

But this book has Lu Zu's name on it

deceive the world

 

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by awaken

[awaken]

紫煙上下三素雲

 

紫煙昨天講過就是紫色的煙，也就是紫色的烏肝

上下就是移動

以前講過烏肝的特色就是移動

兔髓的特色就是不動

所以烏肝屬陽，兔髓屬陰，都跟意識的演化有關係

 

三在這裡不能當作數字，必須當作順序，也就是第三

在丹道的易經數字當中，三代表肝，就是烏肝

素雲，素就是白色，白色的雲，就是兔髓

 

所以在黃庭經裡面，同樣也看得到烏肝兔髓的描述

因為要練出胎仙，就必須經歷烏肝兔髓的陰陽反覆

這是必經的過程

沒有這個過程，不可能練出胎仙

 

Purple smoke up and down three Su cloud

Ziyan, I said yesterday that it is purple smoke, which is purple black liver

up and down is to move

I said before that the characteristic of black liver is that it moves

The characteristic of rabbit marrow is that it does not move

Therefore, black liver belongs to yang, and rabbit marrow belongs to yin, both of which are related to the evolution of consciousness.

Three,  cannot be regarded as a number here, it must be regarded as a sequence, that is, the third

In Dan Dao's I Ching figures, three represent liver, namely black liver

Su Yun, Su is white, white cloud is rabbit marrow

Therefore, in Huang Ting Jing, the description of black liver and rabbit marrow can also be seen.

Because in order to cultivate a fetal immortal, one must experience the yin and yang of black liver and rabbit marrow.

This is a necessary process

Without this process, it is impossible to cultivate a fetal immortal

 

搬運者練習者只能練出最低頻率的烏肝

更不要說兔髓了

那是完全練不出來了

沒有烏肝兔髓的交互作用

胎仙是不可能練出來的

所以搬運法練習者就把幻境當成陽神了

自欺欺人的練法

 

 Transfer method practitioners can only practice black liver with the lowest frequency

Not to mention rabbit marrow

They can't  reach it at all.

No interaction of black liver and rabbit marrow

Fetal immortal is impossible to produce

Therefore, practitioners of the transportation method regard the illusion as the yang-shen.

self-deception practice

[Iskote]

Why in ancient times did internal alchemy and neigong teachers keep their methods hidden, and why were they very careful about who they might teach such practices to? One likely answer is many people in this world are prone to all kinds of imbalances and excesses and immoral behavior. Internal alchemy and similar practices has a tendency to amplify such imbalances and excesses in such people's personality and behavior, and the end result can be quite bad. Likewise for a student interested in learning such practices, if the teacher does not appear to be well balanced and stable and ethical, etc., why would you want to learn from them?  

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Iskote

[Cobie]

9 hours ago, Cheshire Cat said:

http://thesecretofthegoldenflower.com/ch6.html

内外通明

… white (light). Inside and outside, are permeated with light. …

White light.
 

~~~

内外 nei4 wai4 - inside and outside

通明 tong1 ming2 - brightly lit 

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Cobie

[awaken]

灌溉五華植靈根

 

這裡的五不是數量的五，而是第五，在易經當中屬於土

華，精華

植，種植

靈根，靈性的根基

 

之前說過很多次，土的清淨非常重要，需要依靠先天氣和先天意，才能培養出真土，清淨之土

如果採用搬運法的意念固定下腹部法，意念就受到後天意識的控制，只要後天意識出現，土就無法清淨

自然也無法培養靈性的根基

這是為什麼搬運法無法看懂黃庭經的原因

 

先天意的栽培，需要先天氣的反覆鍛鍊，烏肝兔髓是灌溉的來源，沒有烏肝兔髓的反覆鍛鍊，則清淨之土無法出現

 

Irrigation Wuhua Planting Spiritual Roots

The ‘五’ here is not the number five, but the fifth, which belongs to the earth in YiiChin

華, Essence

植, plant

靈根, spiritual root

I have said many times before that the purity of the soil is very important. It is necessary to rely on the innate Qi and innate will to cultivate the true soil, the pure soil.

If the mind of the transfer method is used to fix the lower abdomen, the mind will be controlled by the acquired consciousness. As long as the acquired consciousness appears, the soil will not be purified.

 also cannot cultivate  spiritual root

This is the reason why the transfer method cannot understand Huang Tingjing

Cultivation of innate will requires repeated training of the Q, Black liver and rabbit marrow, is the source of irrigation. Without the repeated training of black liver and rabbit marrow, the pure land cannot appear.

[Cobie]

12 hours ago, Cheshire Cat said:

太乙 金華 宗旨 "The secret of the golden flower" 

Why does it say ‘flower’? 
 

花 hua1 - flower

華 hua2 - diffused light 

 

~~~
金 jin1 - gold

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Cobie

[Cobie]

35 minutes ago, Cobie said:

太乙 金華 宗旨 "The secret of the golden flower" 

Why does it say ‘secret’?

 

太 tai4 - very 

乙 yi3 - second
 

宗旨 zong1zhi3 - purpose

 

~~~

宗 zong1 - ancestor; 

旨 zhi3 - purpose 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Cobie

[Cobie]

Obsolete now

Edited May 15, 2022 by Cobie

[awaken]

9 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Why does it say ‘secret’?

 

太 tai4 - very 

乙 yi3 - second

 

 

 

 

太乙 ＝ 太一

 

 great one

 

太一是楚國的神

第一個被祭祀的神

請看屈原九歌

 

Taiyi is the god of Chu

The first god to be worshipped

Please see Qu Yuan's Nine Songs

 

東皇太一
吉日兮辰良，穆將愉兮上皇；
撫長劍兮玉珥，璆鏘鳴兮琳琅；
瑤席兮玉瑱，盍將把兮瓊芳；
蕙餚蒸兮蘭藉，奠桂酒兮椒漿；
揚枹兮拊鼓，疏緩節兮安歌；
陳竽瑟兮浩倡；
靈偃蹇兮姣服，芳菲菲兮滿堂；
五音紛兮繁會，君欣欣兮樂康。

 

no secret, just a big fake book

Edited May 15, 2022 by awaken

[Cobie]

4 minutes ago, awaken said:

太乙 ＝ 太一

 

 great one

Ah, thanks for the info. 
 

Is that 太一 as in 太一生水?

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Cobie

[Cobie]

太一生水  tai4 yi1 sheng1 shui3 - Great One gave birth to water
Characters and translations at: 
https://www.tao-te-king.org/taiyi_shengshui.htm 

[awaken]

Just now, Cobie said:

太一生水  tai4 yi1 sheng1 shui3 - Great One gave birth to water
Characters and translations at: 
https://www.tao-te-king.org/taiyi_shengshui.htm 

 

是的，這是最近出土的楚國文件

我有開另外一個主題

 

 

 

Yes, this is a recently unearthed document from the state of Chu

I have another theme

[Cobie]

3 minutes ago, awaken said:

Yes, this is a recently unearthed document from the state of Chu

 

Thanks for the info. : )

 

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Cobie

[awaken]

7 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Ah, thanks for the info. 
 

Is that 太一 as in 太一生水?

 

 

 

 

yes

same words

but meanings is different

because 太乙金華宗旨is a fake cultivation book

it is not written by Lu Zu

It is written by someone else

 

[Cobie]

太乙 金華 宗旨 
 

太乙 -  太一 (Taiyi is the god of Chu, the first god to be worshipped)

金華 - golden light/corona/halo

宗旨 - ancestor’s purpose

 

Why was it translated as “The secret of the golden flower" 

 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Cobie

[awaken]

七液洞流沖廬間

 

七就是代表心

液就是液體

洞就是心竅

流沖就是先天真一之氣因為心竅開啟而由下往上沖

盧間就是頭顱之間

 

這個講的是先天真一之氣的開啟，是由於心竅的開啟，而心竅的開啟則是因為前一句意土的清淨

而意土的清淨則是更前一句，烏肝兔髓的陰陽反覆鍛鍊

這個講的都是標準的煉丹程序

 

Seven Liquid Cave Stream Chonglujian

七 is the representative heart

液 is liquid

The hole is heart Chiao

流沖 is the innate true one qi that rushes from bottom to top because of the opening of heart Chiao

盧間 is inside the heads

This is about the opening of the innate true oneness, which is due to the opening of heart Chiao, and the opening of heart Chiao is due to the purification of the Yii-earth in the previous sentence.

And the purity of the Yii-earth is more the previous sentence, the yin and yang of black liver and rabbit marrow are repeatedly cultivated

This is all about standard alchemy procedures.

[awaken]

2 minutes ago, Cobie said:

太乙 金華 宗旨 
 

太乙 -  太一 (Taiyi is the god of Chu, the first god to be worshipped)

金華 - golden light/corona/halo

宗旨 - ancestor’s purpose

 

Why was it translated as “The secret of the golden flower" 

 

 

 

 

也許翻譯者希望吸引讀者的注意吧

Maybe the translator wants to grab the reader's attention

 

又或是翻譯者根本看不懂主題是什麼意思

 

Or maybe the translator doesn't understand what the subject means at all

[Cobie]

8 minutes ago, awaken said:

… maybe the translator doesn't understand what the subject means at all

 That’s pretty much the impression I get with most English ‘translations’. 
 

 

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Cobie

[awaken]

幽室內明照陽門

 

幽就是黑暗

室就是房間

幽室就是黑暗狀態的玄關竅

內明就是從裡面發出光明

陽門，陽門就是皇帝才能走的門，大門

 

玄關竅從裡面發出的光明照耀大門

講的就是先天真一之氣

經過烏肝兔髓交替，意土清淨，心竅開啟，先天真一之氣上沖之後，從玄關裡面產生先天真一之氣，光明的照耀整個玄關

這才是真正的光明

真正的蓮花，圓月，胎仙，這時候才會出現

 

secluded indoor lighting yangmen

幽 is dark

室 is room

幽室 is the Xiuan guang to the dark state

內明 is the light that shines from within

陽門, Yangmen is the door only the emperor can go through, the big gate

The light from the Xiuan guang illuminates the gate

It's about the spirit of innate

After the alternation of black liver and rabbit marrow, the Yii-earth is pure, the heart Chiao is opened, and after the Qi of Innate True One rushes upward, the Qi of Innate True One is generated from the Xiuan guang, and the Xiuan guang is illuminated brightly.

This is the real light

The real lotus, the full moon, and the womb will appear at this time

[Cheshire Cat]

5 hours ago, awaken said:

 

 

no secret, just a big fake book

 

Which version of the text are you referring to ?

 

from http://thesecretofthegoldenflower.com/esposito.html

 

[...]

So far I discovered at least seven editions of this text, among them a rare one at the Otani University Library in Kyoto. The text is a product of spirit-writing seances. Each Daoist lineage and tradition which engaged in its compilation left its marks. Through comparison of prefaces, notes, and the thirteen chapters of the Golden Flower in its different editions, relevant variants as well as omissions become apparent. The Longmen, an important Daoist tradition which during the Qing dynasty was charged with transmitting public ordinations, used this text not only as basis for its alchemical doctrine but also for establishing its spiritual power of transmitting ordinations among its followers. In order to assert themselves as the holders of the original version and by virtue of being the unique recipients of the true transmission, the Longmen masters from Mount Jin’gai (Zhejiang) modified and edited the Golden Flower according to their own criteria.

Through analysis of its various versions and study of the textual inconsistencies in the Longmen’s claim to legitimacy, we can shed light on Qing Daoism and on the struggles among the Daoist traditions which claimed to have the orthodox transmission of such text.

[awaken]

29 minutes ago, Cheshire Cat said:

 

Which version of the text are you referring to ?

 

from http://thesecretofthegoldenflower.com/esposito.html

 

[...]

So far I discovered at least seven editions of this text, among them a rare one at the Otani University Library in Kyoto. The text is a product of spirit-writing seances. Each Daoist lineage and tradition which engaged in its compilation left its marks. Through comparison of prefaces, notes, and the thirteen chapters of the Golden Flower in its different editions, relevant variants as well as omissions become apparent. The Longmen, an important Daoist tradition which during the Qing dynasty was charged with transmitting public ordinations, used this text not only as basis for its alchemical doctrine but also for establishing its spiritual power of transmitting ordinations among its followers. In order to assert themselves as the holders of the original version and by virtue of being the unique recipients of the true transmission, the Longmen masters from Mount Jin’gai (Zhejiang) modified and edited the Golden Flower according to their own criteria.

Through analysis of its various versions and study of the textual inconsistencies in the Longmen’s claim to legitimacy, we can shed light on Qing Daoism and on the struggles among the Daoist traditions which claimed to have the orthodox transmission of such text.

 

every

 

這本書裡面所說的內容，大概只有前三章可以勉強參考，之後的就跟真正的丹道產生了重大的偏離了

建議不要參考這本書

最好改成以悟真篇為主

 

The content in this book can only be used for reference in the first three chapters, and the later chapters deviate significantly from the real Dan Dao.

It is recommended not to refer to this book

It's better to change it to focus on Wuzhen

[Cobie]

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[Cobie]

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Edited November 28, 2022 by Cobie