monkeys and apes in Daoism

[Cobie]

monkeys and apes in Daoism

 

 

 

胡一桂 (Hu2 Yi1 Gui4) cited the source as 京房易傳.

Houtian Bagua around 305 BC, at the end of the Warring States period.

 

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The quickest way to tell the difference between a monkey and an ape is by the presence or absence of a tail. Almost all monkeys have tails; apes do not. Their bodies are different in other ways too: monkeys are generally smaller and narrow-chested, while apes are larger and have broad chests and shoulder joints that allow them to swing through trees (while some monkeys also have this ability, most of them are built for running across branches rather than swinging). 
https://www.britannica.com/story/whats-the-difference-between-monkeys-and-apes   
 

 

Edited March 6, 2023 by Cobie

[awaken]

你如何確定這是一隻猴子？

 

說不定只是一個不會畫圖的人，把人畫成猴子

 

How can you be sure it's a monkey?

Maybe it's just a person who can't draw, draw people as monkeys

 

[Cobie]

40 minutes ago, awaken said:

… it's a monkey? …

 

“Chinese religions use monkeys and apes as metaphors for people. In Chinese folk religion, some shape-shifting monkeys were said to be human ancestors. In Daoism, monkeys, particularly gibbons, were believed have longevity like a xian (transcendent; immortal).”

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeys_in_Chinese_culture

 

 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Cobie

[awaken]

2 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

“Chinese religions use monkeys and apes as metaphors for people. In Chinese folk religion, some shape-shifting monkeys were said to be human ancestors. In Daoism, monkeys, particularly gibbons, were believed have longevity like a xian (transcendent; immortal).”

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkeys_in_Chinese_culture

 

 

 

are you sure?

 

 

[Cobie]

內 經 圖

 

內 nei4 - inner

經 jing1 - scripture

圖 tu2 - picture 

 

http://www.rgm.hu/download/NeiJingTu.pdf 

 

 

Edited February 26, 2023 by Cobie

[Cobie]

Mostly line drawings of a human in a landscape with lots of characters. The human with TCM style meridians and a tiny monkey at some spot in the body.

Picture of a monkey in a chart of the human body in 

https://inf.news/en/culture/9907746db46984ad0454f8af67c0c8c0.html 

 

Edited February 26, 2023 by Cobie

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Edited February 18, 2023 by Cobie

[Mango]

Here is the site.
https://baike.baidu.com/item/清华大学藏战国竹简/283640?fromtitle=清华简&fromid=4155368

[Cobie]

Thanks! 

 

“Tsinghua Slips are a collection of bamboo slips from the Warring States Period collected by Tsinghua University in July 2008. The carbon 14 test confirmed that the Tsinghua bamboo slips are cultural relics in the middle and late Warring States period, and the writing style is mainly from the Chu State.”
https://baike.baidu.com/item/清华大学藏战国竹简/283640?fromtitle=清华简&fromid=4155368  

 

 

Edited February 26, 2023 by Cobie

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Edited February 26, 2023 by Cobie

[awaken]

3 hours ago, Cobie said:

Yes. Wiki cannot always be trusted. But on the OD forum someone posted a lot of ancient Chinese paintings that had similar monkeys incorporated. 

 

 

 

中國猴子最有名的是西遊記

但是西遊記是一本小說

我在國中的時候就看完了西遊記原版文言文

在國小的時候，電視就經常播出西遊記卡通

 

直到現在孫悟空還是電影的常客

 

The most famous Chinese monkey is Journey to the West

But Journey to the West is a novel

When I was in junior high school, I read the original version of Journey to the West in classical Chinese

When I was in elementary school, TV often broadcast the cartoon of Journey to the West

Until now, Sun Wukong is still a regular in the movie

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

清朝著名的丹道家，劉一明，也為西遊記這本小說寫註解

 

https://ctext.org/wiki.pl?if=gb&res=505146

 

劉一明就在這本小說中把搬運法稱為{邪惡}

 

The famous Dan Taoist in the Qing Dynasty, Liu Yiming, also wrote annotations for the novel Journey to the West

https://ctext.org/wiki.pl?if=gb&res=505146

In this novel, Liu Yiming called the transport method {evil}

Edited May 16, 2022 by awaken

[awaken]

3 hours ago, Cobie said:

I am rather handicapped by hardly knowing any Chinese. Is there anyone that could find back the link or some of the paintings?

 

 

 

甚麼樣的畫作?

What kind of painting?

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Edited February 18, 2023 by Cobie

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Edited February 26, 2023 by Cobie

[awaken]

21 minutes ago, Cobie said:

 I clicked halfway in the first video and saw Gandalph.  The second video is “unavailable”.

What is “the transport method”

 

 

 

第二個要付錢

 

搬運法就是把氣固定在下腹部的練法

 

the second need to pay

The transfer method is the practice of fixing Qi in the lower abdomen

[awaken]

12 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Mostly line drawings of a human in a landscape with lots of characters. The human with TCM style meridians and a tiny monkey at some spot in the body.

 

 

 

 

沒印象有這種東西

 

I don't remember such a thing

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Edited February 18, 2023 by Cobie

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[awaken]

35 minutes ago, Cobie said:

I don’t do that.

 

that's ok

 

just a movie

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Edited February 26, 2023 by Cobie