Cobie Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 易經 yi4 jing1 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/易經 ITjing number system & the 5 elements Picture of the ITjing number system: It’s called 河 圖 - Yellow River chart 河 he2 - Yellow River 圖 tu2 - chart http://www.chinaknowledge.de/Literature/Daoists/hetuluoshu.html ~~~ Why is the (ITjing number system) picture called after 河 , the Yellow River? Edited April 8, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) Picture of the ITjing number system on the walls of a Daoist Temple. ~~~ Does anyone know more about this picture? Edited June 10, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) Picture of monkey in bagua: 胡一桂 (Hu2 Yi1 Gui4) cited the source as 京房易傳. Houtian Bagua around 305 BC, at the end of the Warring States period. Monkeys in Daoism thread: https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53654-monkeys-in-daoism/?do=findComment&comment=982124 Edited May 17, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) The Ancient Chinese thought the earth was flat and had four corners. At the corners were oceans. 太一生水 tai4 yi1 sheng1 shui3 - Great One gave birth to water. Stefan Kappstein, Shen Shu (p 476 Dutch translation): The oldest ancient Chinese had a worldview based on the 4 directions. This was the basis later on for yin-yang and ITjing. Edited May 17, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) The ITjing number system started with 1 to 5. The consecutive numbers are opposite to each other. Number 5 is in the middle. The odd numbers are yang (陽 yang2) in white and the even numbers are yin (陰 yin1) in black. 6=5+1, 7=5+2, 8=5+3, 9=5+4. and 10= 5+5 (in the middle again). Edited May 17, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) The construction of the early bagua https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFdCge5e_30 Edited February 19, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) 五行 | 就 是 | 木火土金水。 wu3 xing2 | jiù shì | mù huǒ tǔ jīn shuǐ. https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53724-the-reason-why-a-person-who-only-has-qi-in-his-lower-abdomen-cant-understand the-wuzenpian/?do=findComment&comment=984807 Edited June 10, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmen Posted May 21, 2022 On 17-5-2022 at 7:50 PM, Cobie said: Why is the (ITjing number system) picture called after 河 , the Yellow River? Because according to legend the Yellow River brought forth the Hetu on the back of a longma 龍馬. See 河图洛书 - 维基百科,自由的百科全书 (wikipedia.org) The Hetu and Luoshu are only mentioned in commentaries though, and don't seem to be connected to the Zhouyi, the core of the Yijing. Scholars are also not certain if early references to these charts refer to the pictures that we know today. Originally the Hetu and Luoshu might have been totally different objects/shapes/principles. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmen Posted May 21, 2022 On 17-5-2022 at 7:40 PM, Cobie said: Does anyone know more about this picture? The gate says 太清宫, there are (at least) two Daoist temples with this name. One is the Supreme Clarity Temple in Shenyang: Supreme Clarity Temple (Taiqinggong) , Shenyang - FYSK: Daoist Culture Centre - Database (daoinfo.org) The other is the (Laoshan) Qing Gong Temple in Qingdao. As Google Maps shows far more pictures of the latter location I suspect your picture is also from this place. But the text in the footer is unreadable because the image is too small so I am not entirely sure. I have not been able to find other photos of this specific gate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 1 S water 水 ; 2 N fire 火 ; 3 W wood 木 ; 4 E metal 金 ; 5 centre- earth 土 Edited February 19, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harmen Posted June 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Cobie said: 1 S water 水 ; 2 N fire 火 ; 3 W wood 木 ; 4 E metal 金 ; 5 centre- earth 土 You got the directions wrong. South is on the top, North below, East to the left and West to the right, as is custom with Chinese maps. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites