Cobie Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) I think Chakras can be useful for understanding Daoism. https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/50542-sink-chi-to-the-dantien-氣沈丹田/?do=findComment&comment=918953 Edited March 4, 2023 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) On 14-5-2022 at 4:14 PM, awaken said: … 紫色的氣機作用點在頂輪，屬於比較高靈性者才會出現的 The action point of the purple qi is on the crown chakra, which only appears for those with higher spirituality. … 橘紅色的，頻率比較低，位於生殖輪的光 orange-red, with a relatively low frequency, located in the light of the reproductive chakra. … 下腹部，只能出現橘紅色低頻率的光 … … the lower abdomen, only the orange-red low-frequency light can appear … “烏肝 - black liver” ~~~ "...The light in the chakras of India is the same as the black liver light of Taoism The mandala in the Indian chakra is the same as the lotus in Taoism ..." https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/54302-navel-chakra-and-dantian/?do=findComment&comment=997517 Edited January 11, 2023 by Cobie 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) The special power of the central channelhttps://dakinitranslations.com/2022/09/25/practice-given-by-guru-padmasambhava-to-king-trisong-detsen-for-his-minister-who-accidentally-killed-his-parents-the-treasure-tradition-of-phowa-introduction-to-the-treasure-phowa-tradition-its-hist/ Edited January 23, 2023 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) On 15/05/2022 at 3:25 AM, awaken said: 太乙金華宗旨 … Taiyi Jinhua's purpose … “太乙金華宗旨 … Taiyi Jinhua's purpose” ~~~ “… red and orange are the colours of the first and second chakra, respectively, while purple is the colour of the crown chakra. This is from the Hindu system …” https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53618-the-reason-why-a-person-who-only-has-qi-in-his-lower-abdomen-cant-understand the-huang-tingjing/?do=findComment&comment=982045 Edited January 11, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) On 14/05/2022 at 10:08 PM, Cheshire Cat said: … http://thesecretofthegoldenflower.com/ch6.html … 7. 一则静中，目光腾腾，满前皆白，如在云中，开眼觅身，无从觅视，此为虚室生白，内外通明 … 7. At times the following can be experienced: in the state of quietness, one`s vision becomes hazy, because of too much brightness. It`s like opening one’s eyes while being in a cloud and one doesn`t see one`s body any more. This is called: the empty chamber produces white (light). Inside and outside, are permeated with light. … … “生白，内外通明 … produces white (light). Inside and outside, are permeated with light.” Edited May 23, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 太乙金華宗旨 - Taiyi Jinhua's purpose ~~~ 太乙金華宗旨 does not mean http://thesecretofthegoldenflower.com/ch6.html ‘the secret of the golden flower’. 太 tai4 - greatest; senior (in generational hierarchy); remotest 乙 yi3 - used for an unspecified person or thing 金 jin1 - gold 華 hua2 - diffused light, corona, halo 花 hua1 - flower 宗旨 zong1zhi3 - purpose 宗 zong1 - ancestor; 旨 zhi3 - purpose Edited May 19, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 生白，内外通明 … produces white (light). Inside and outside, are permeated with light. 生 sheng1- produces 白 bai2 - white 内外 nei4 wai4 - inside and outside 通明 tong1 ming2 - brightly lit Edited May 19, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 烏肝 (black liver) & 兔髓 (rabbit marrow), both are 一種功態 From https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53618-the-reason-why-a-person-who-only-has-qi-in-his-lower-abdomen-cant-understand the-huang-tingjing/?do=findComment&comment=982843 Edited May 20, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) modern: 烏肝 - black liver 烏 wu1 - dark; black; crow 肝 gan1 - liver ~~~ Kroll: 肝 gan1 - euphemism for inner feelings. 月 yue2 - moon; moonlight; moon shaped thing 干 gan1 - shield; ; affront; concern oneself with; riverbank Edited May 20, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) … 烏肝兔髓交替 … the alternation of black liver and rabbit marrow From https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53618-the-reason-why-a-person-who-only-has-qi-in-his-lower-abdomen-cant-understand the-huang-tingjing/?do=findComment&comment=982117 Edited May 20, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 兔髓 is a kind of 功 state, which must be achieved by a deep awareness of 中觀 (a balanced outlook on life). From https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53672-太乙生水/?do=findComment&comment=982846 Edited May 20, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) Originally the Hindu chakra system had only 3 chakras (the primary colours). The Chinese have 上， 中，and 下 丹田 三清 san1 qing1 - three distinct [colours]link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Pure_Ones Edited April 9, 2023 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow_self Posted May 21, 2022 On 19/05/2022 at 5:08 PM, Cobie said: I think Chakras can be useful for understanding Daoism. Well yes, to a degree, but they are at the more advanced stages I would be careful to generalize with Daoism and Chakras...people often make poor comparisons like LDT = Manipura Chakra...this, for example is incorrect They are a part of the tradition, just not much in written format on them They are involved in Shen Gong, Xin Ling Li and Guan Chan. Lots of siddhi and other weird stuff happening at these stages 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) . Edited March 9, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow_self Posted May 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Cobie said: Why is this incorrect? Because they exist in different frequencies LDT = Energetic with a link to the physical Chakra = Spiritual with a link to the energetic In other words, they are not only different things, they exist on different levels 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) the 🛗 elevator https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/54289-wang-mu-foundations-of-internal-alchemy-the-taoist-practice-of-neidan/?do=findComment&comment=997200 Cf The elevator https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/54301-what-are-the-mechanics-behind-chanting/?do=findComment&comment=997749 Cyclical path for refining the Elixir, https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/54289-wang-mu-foundations-of-internal-alchemy-the-taoist-practice-of-neidan/?do=findComment&comment=997200 imo they both talk about the same thing; but the PW chakra system is concise and easy to understand, whereas the neidan system is convoluted to the point of being not really useful. ~~~ 精 氣 神 jing1 qi4 shen2 Origin in change over from 外丹 wei4 dan1 to 內丹 nei4 dan1, These three elements suppose to interact with each other to produce a health body to accomplish longevity. elixir in 外丹 = embryo in 內丹 https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/54342-off-topic/?do=findComment&comment=998652 Edited January 23, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted May 21, 2022 Chakras are intelligent. Often the sacral chakra intelligences have been traumatized. Such humans are often prone to physical accidents as their coordination is poor 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Lairg said: Chakras are intelligent. Often the sacral chakra intelligences have been traumatized. … O.k. And how do you connect this with Daoism? Edited May 21, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted May 22, 2022 Is Daoism a subset of Reality? If so there may be more to find. If Daoism is not a subset of Reality then I do not need to connect the chakra intelligences to Daoism as they are already a part Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 脈輪 - chakra 脈 mai4 - < things connected like blood vessels, e.g. veins of leaves or insect wings; subterranean water currents > 輪 lun2 - wheel 丹 dan1 - red 田 tian2 - field Also see https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53618-the-reason-why-a-person-who-only-has-qi-in-his-lower-abdomen-cant-understand the-huang-tingjing/?do=findComment&comment=983080 Also see https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53618-the-reason-why-a-person-who-only-has-qi-in-his-lower-abdomen-cant-understand the-huang-tingjing/?do=findComment&comment=983082 Edited May 22, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 修煉 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/修煉 Also see https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53618-the-reason-why-a-person-who-only-has-qi-in-his-lower-abdomen-cant-understand the-huang-tingjing/?do=findComment&comment=983155 My digest in the next 4 posts. Edited May 23, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 魂 hun2 1. goes to heaven 2. soul 魂欲上天 hun2 yu4 shang4 tian1 魂 is going up to 天 魄 bo2 1. goes down to the earth with the body at death. 4. body 魄入淵 bo2 ru4 yuan1 魄 is going down to the deep pool https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/魂 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/魄 Edited May 23, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 23, 2022 還魂返魄道自然 Come and Back from Hun to Puo, the Dao is natural. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 23, 2022 黃庭經 … 這些古代丹經的特色就是魂魄的修煉。 Huang Tingjing … the characteristics of these ancient alchemy scriptures are the cultivation of Hun-Puo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 魂 hun2 - soul = 烏肝 black inner feelings 魄 bo2 - body = 兔髓 rabbit inner most Edited May 23, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
