Cobie Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) On 03/06/2022 at 4:54 PM, Planet_Venus said: ... Darrell Lau (1974) … D C Lau (1963 TTC) Darrell D Lau https://www.amazon.com/Tao-Ching-Classics-Lao-Tzu-ebook/dp/B002RI9XJ2 @wandelaar They seem to be different people. Edited June 4, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted June 4, 2022 Please look at the title page of the preview. ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, wandelaar said: Please look at the title page of the preview. ;- ? Edited June 4, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Cobie said: ? It says "D.C. Lau". I have no idea why the guy is suddenly called "Darrell D Lau" on Amazon and at other sites. Edited June 4, 2022 by wandelaar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Planet_Venus Posted June 6, 2022 @wandelaar so what is wrong with Darrell Lau? En ben je Nederlands Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted June 6, 2022 Inderdaad ben ik een Nederlander. I find it confusing when a scholar who is generally known as "D.C. Lau" is suddenly and for no apparent reason called "Darrell D Lau" on Amazon and at other sites. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Planet_Venus said: … Nederlands Hallo, wat leuk. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaken Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) Most lineages are fake. Many people in China use this to deceive people 你最好想好你要學什麼 直接去找這樣的老師就好了 You better think about what you want to learn Just go to a teacher like this Edited June 6, 2022 by awaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, wandelaar said: … a scholar who is generally known as "D.C. Lau" is suddenly and for no apparent reason called "Darrell D Lau" … Idk. Chinese puts the last name before the first names. Seems D. C. Lau was Cantonese. D. C. Lau [wiki] in characters: 劉殿爵 劉殿爵 in Cantonese Yale: Lau Din Cheuk 劉殿爵 pinyin: Liú Diàn Jué 劉 [wiktionary] surname … Two origins are recorded: from 劉累 Liú Lĕi, descendant of Emperor Yao and dragon-keeper of King Kong Jia of Xia; and from the Liu state (劉國) ruled by Duke Kang of Liu, younger brother of King Ding of Zhou. “Darrell D “ changes both first names. Doesn’t seem to be related to the characters: 殿 - hall; bring up the rear 爵 - wine vessel; rank of nobility Edited June 6, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted June 6, 2022 https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/248080/darrell-d-lau/ Strange...! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, wandelaar said: Strange...! Sorry, what am I supposed to see? Edited June 6, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted June 6, 2022 Penguin and Random House are respectable publishers, so why did they change D.C.Lau's name? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) Good point. Idk I don’t see anything in the characters that would explain it: https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/53704-looking-for-a-new-teacherschool-after-healing-tao/?do=findComment&comment=984342 Nor in the English name: Darrell [wiki] is a given name derived from an English surname, which was derived from Norman-French d'Airelle, originally denoting one who came from Airelle in France. Edited June 6, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) No “Darrell” on this page, but it does have his picture https://www4.hku.hk/hongrads/citations/ll-d-b-a-m-a-din-cheuk-lau-lau-din-cheuk Both are mentioned in “Oth: Darrell D. Lau Author: D. C. Lau” on https://www.powells.com/book/tao-te-ching-9780140441314 “Oth”? ‘Otherwise known as’, I assume. Edited June 6, 2022 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) @Planet_Venus apologies for going off-topic. Edited June 6, 2022 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wandelaar Posted June 6, 2022 Yes - better to split off this discussion about the renaming of D.C. Lau. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markern Posted June 6, 2022 Damo Mitchell is very good. And has an online academy. His system does eventually take you through the whole alchemical process so the long term aim is much broader than your more limited health goals. But the earlier levels are much more about general health and foundational stuff so you could just do that. He has written a bunch of books you could look into. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Planet_Venus Posted June 7, 2022 9 hours ago, markern said: Damo Mitchell is very good. And has an online academy. His system does eventually take you through the whole alchemical process so the long term aim is much broader than your more limited health goals. But the earlier levels are much more about general health and foundational stuff so you could just do that. He has written a bunch of books you could look into. Thanks! @wandelaar @Cobie haha yes thanks for going very off topic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted June 7, 2022 9 hours ago, markern said: Damo Mitchell is very good. And has an online academy. His system does eventually take you through the whole alchemical process so the long term aim is much broader than your more limited health goals. But the earlier levels are much more about general health and foundational stuff so you could just do that. He has written a bunch of books you could look into. The problem with his online course is they are just prerecorded videos, a lot of filler and you have to wait a week between lessons. With other teachers you can learn at your own pace (or have the pace set for you by the teacher) instead of a one size fits all format which may be too slow or too fast for some people. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Logray Posted June 7, 2022 17 hours ago, Cobie said: No “Darrell” on this page, but it does have his picture https://www4.hku.hk/hongrads/citations/ll-d-b-a-m-a-din-cheuk-lau-lau-din-cheuk Both are mentioned in “Oth: Darrell D. Lau Author: D. C. Lau” on https://www.powells.com/book/tao-te-ching-9780140441314 “Oth”? ‘Otherwise known as’, I assume. It is common to have an English name in Hong Kong. A person's name can be Darrell LAU Din Cheuk, or LAU, Din Cheuk, Darrell. The Darrell or English sounding names may or may not be registered in identity documents. It was started in the old days when having an English name was more "modern" and in those days typing was as difficult as cultivation, no mistake was allowed, especially on important papers or in telex where every character costs money. It is much easier to type something familiar. In government or institutions, people like to call each other on initial basis "DC". There is another cultural factor too. People do not like their full Chinese names to be called. I won't call a person "Din Cheuk" but rather Lau, Cheuk or Darrell (if exist) or other nicknames. It infringes one's privacy and is a bit offensive because only authoritative figures would call your full name. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted June 7, 2022 On 2/6/2022 at 12:11 PM, Earl Grey said: Entirely up to the OP though, as I will reserve my full opinion for an appropriate thread probably more likely on my own forum because this group is loaded with red flags. I think it would be interesting to hear your opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted June 7, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Master Logray said: Wow, thank you very much for all this wonderful info. You are a mine of information. Edited June 7, 2022 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earl Grey Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) On 6/7/2022 at 9:52 PM, Cheshire Cat said: I think it would be interesting to hear your opinion. Maybe on another thread to not detract from here. Spoiler and only if people rrrrreeeeeaaaaallllllyyyyyy want to hear what I have to say, which hasn't been the case in this forum for years. Edited June 9, 2022 by Earl Grey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
