Shadao Posted June 26, 2022 The version of you that is the true you, pure, clear of any imperfection or condition. The version of you that you try to achieve even when you don't know it, the one that has the qualities you wished you had.The one that is so far above your current self that you have difficulty even trying to imagine such perfected self still being "you". ps: I've got no idea why I decided to write this and in such a convoluted way, just suddenly "felt like it", a bit like I was half the writer and half the reader ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You're free to ignore this rambling. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted June 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Shadao said: what is the word to mean your "perfect self"? utterly beyond the ken of any word object or mental concept to describe or encapsulate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted June 26, 2022 I don't know that it means perfect self in the sense you mean but I like the word mensch. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted June 27, 2022 In the tradition I follow the closest thing to what you describe would be to transcend or release all notions of one’s self - all ideas, conditioning, habits, patterns, concepts, emotion, expectations, and so on, and to abide in what remains. It is clear, spacious, and ever-present, and cannot be named without being polluted. It can be called many things, none of which capture it, but is most often referred to as sems nyid, literally mind’s nature or essence. It’s also often referred to as Buddha nature. https://rywiki.tsadra.org/index.php/sems_nyid 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C T Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) This subject was a pet fascination years ago, and I used to put pen to paper for much of the thoughts around this, and the term I had a fondness for was 'the nondescript'. It was only later that I learnt about the word 'ineffable'. lol Edited June 27, 2022 by C T 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) Tricky as you are asking for a name of the perfected self and not the process to achieve that . For me, the closest is "Fravahar." As in the sense of a 'United Fraveshi ' . Otherwise known as , in modern hermetic / western magic tradition ( Not the name of it but the 'process' ) ; achieving the knowledge and communication of your ' Holy Guardian Angel' - also a process of 'uniting' . Edited June 27, 2022 by Nungali 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manitou Posted July 3, 2022 I suppose it's getting close when it's called the I Am consciousness. Still doesn't mean we can describe it, but rather it's something we turn into. I think the closest we can come to describing it is to live it. It is the light on the path. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vajra Fist Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) It's never what you think it is Edited July 4, 2022 by Vajra Fist 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cheshire Cat Posted July 8, 2022 On 26/6/2022 at 3:01 AM, Shadao said: The version of you that is the true you, pure, clear of any imperfection or condition. སྙིང་རྗེ། Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted July 8, 2022 YOU ARE ALREADY PERFECT. Your task is to find out HOW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
manitou Posted July 9, 2022 On 7/7/2022 at 10:18 PM, Cheshire Cat said: སྙིང་རྗེ། Does this mean 'That Which Knows?' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted July 10, 2022 7 hours ago, manitou said: Does this mean 'That Which Knows?' It means “compassion” - nying je 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted July 12, 2022 Instead of the concept Perfect Self, I like the term Complete Human Being. There's a roundness to it. Birth, death. Highs, lows. Happiness, sorrow. Sex, Celibacy. Peace at the core. Accepting, rolling with the world. What aspects of myself, do I need to work on, to be more Complete? no stereotype.. what do I need to roll better.. to momentarily perfect my morning oatmeal. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites