Wun Yuen Gong Posted May 3, 2008 Hi guys and gals, Im looking for any books or www adresses that has any information on ZSF and his teachings, Also any forms of his that could be legit? Is there ant books on his teachings? WYG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taiji Bum Posted May 3, 2008 Good question. I came across a group said to teach the original 13 forms taught by ZSF. They were based in China and of course I dont have a link or name but they are out there. I don't know how legit they are though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Long Yun Posted May 3, 2008 Hi guys and gals, Im looking for any books or www adresses that has any information on ZSF and his teachings, Also any forms of his that could be legit? Is there ant books on his teachings? WYG I don't know about books on the subject. Who are all the Taiji Classics by? If they're by Zhang San Feng then YAY But I do know that the Taijiquan practiced at Wudang Mountain is considered his original form. Go to youtube and search for "Wudang Shan Feng Taiji 13 movements." I think that's what you're looking for. Peace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spectrum Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) Mythical origins of the art aside, most taoist forms of taijiquan claim origin from Zhang San Feng. Search wudangbing on youtube. In the spirit of Taoist taijiquan. Edited May 3, 2008 by Spectrum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MatthewQi Posted May 4, 2008 Hi guys and gals, Im looking for any books or www adresses that has any information on ZSF and his teachings, Also any forms of his that could be legit? Is there ant books on his teachings? WYG Funny WYG, I went to my first Tai Chi class ever today and I got home and was researching ZSF. Here is some stuff I found: http://www.egreenway.com/taichichuan/chang1.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi_chuan Also, Thomas Cleary's books include stuff on / by ZSF. Primordial Qigong or Tai Chi for Enlightenment available from Michael Winn is a favorite practice for me and others and was supposedly created by ZSF. Let us know if you find anything interesting... Best, Matt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wun Yuen Gong Posted May 4, 2008 Is there any written history that Taiji for enlightenment was created by ZSF or just all word of mouth? cheers WYG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buddy Posted May 6, 2008 "Mythical origins of the art aside, most taoist forms of taijiquan claim origin from Zhang San Feng." Not the actual origin of taiji, the Chen family. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wun Yuen Gong Posted May 6, 2008 You saying that the Chen family takes the credit for Taiji then ZSF? Who has the most authentic Taiji chuan closest to ZSF OR the same? WYG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buddy Posted May 6, 2008 I'm saying the ZSF myth is spurious. All taiji originates from Chen style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Procurator Posted May 7, 2008 I'm saying the ZSF myth is spurious. All taiji originates from Chen style. and where chen style originates from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buddy Posted May 7, 2008 A combination of local hongquan-like styles combined with daoist neigong. There's talk of xingyi's original manuals being an influence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wun Yuen Gong Posted May 7, 2008 Wasnt Pao Quan or cannon fist a shaolin system or form that the chens used as well the openings of the taiji form uses shaolin movements? Thats what i read anyhow!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buddy Posted May 7, 2008 This is what I believe. Look at paochui and look at hongquan or lanshou. Very similar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wudangspirit Posted May 7, 2008 WYG, Zhang Sangfeng teachings are usually oral at Wudang. There are a lot of schools there that are said to teach original 13 postures and internal type arts. However, unless you are really in that sect you're not going to get the real oral traditional teachings that have been past down for 15 generations. Once again I refer to my lineage uncle Zhong Yun Long and master Tseng Yun Xiang. They are the only surviving lineage holders of the Zhang Sanfeng Branch at Wudang that are able to transmit this knowledge. However, there are a few hermits in the mountains at Wudang who have this knowledge as well but it would be very hard for them to teach you. You can try to learn forms from youtube as the others have discussed but you won't learn the essence of the teachings. My suggestion would be to sign up for Master Chen's seminar this summer in Atlanta as he is coming back from Wudang for that brief time to teach an intensive on these teachings. Then you can ask him in person to see if any of his students can carry on teaching you. Good luck and Tao Bless, Wudangspirit Hi guys and gals, Im looking for any books or www adresses that has any information on ZSF and his teachings, Also any forms of his that could be legit? Is there ant books on his teachings? WYG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
