Phi & Mandelbrot Set Master Key?

[Lairg]

2 minutes ago, Cobie said:

Numbers are not “alive” and cannot get “upset”,

 

Proof indeed - but of what?

 

Meanwhile I will stick with Pythagoras

 

 

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

Hi Lairg,

Its origin

The pentacle is one of the oldest known symbols and although it is impossible to trace its origins with 100% accuracy, it seems to come from ancient Egypt, where it was a representation of the supreme god Horus. Later, the followers of Pythagoras used it as a badge and password to identify themselves. Later, the master alchemists considered it a synthesis of a powerful symbolic form. It synthesizes the union of unequals and is considered a small-scale cosmos that combines masculine and feminine principles.

https://magickalspot.com/pentagram-vs-pentacle/#:~:text=The pentacle is one of the oldest known,as a badge and password to identify themselves.

[Cobie]

 

12 hours ago, Lairg said:

… of what?

 

12 hours ago, Cobie said:

As numbers cannot get upset, I  assume you were the one that got upset and projected your feeling onto the numbers.

 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Cobie

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

I find the work of Charles R. Henry interesting involving mirrored spheres and pyramids:-

https://www.people.vcu.edu/~chenry/

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

More drawings below:-

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

Obviously there are people that build structures relating to Phi, the Pentagon is the most famous as it is so obvious, being 5 storeys tall 5 deep, with 10 sections.

[Lairg]

I recently bought a biogeometry home kit.  I was quite surprised at the quality and extent of the fields generated by little bits of plastic.

 

https://www.biogeometry.ca/introduction-to-biogeometry

 

""BioGeometry was founded by Egyptian architect and scientist Dr. Ibrahim S.F. Karim. Dr. Karim’s breakthrough research identified a harmonizing subtle energy quality found in sacred power spots that can be detected through three energy qualities referred to as BG3. The BG3 quality is at the core of harmonic relationships of energy and shape in nature. BioGeometry uses the energy principles of shapes to balance biological energy systems within the overall framework of environmental energy interactions. It encompasses the universal laws and natural dynamics affecting living energy systems, which have been largely ignored in our modern civilization at the expense of our health and well-being."

 

 

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

Thank you Lairg,

I found that interesting, the brain is a fascinating, especially with those that have a split-brain, quote from link below:-

" Gazzaniga and Sperry's split-brain research is now legendary. One of their child participants, Paul S., had a fully functional language center in both hemispheres. This allowed the researchers to question each side of the brain. When they asked the right side what their patient wanted to be when he grew up, he replied, "an automobile racer." When they posed the same question to the left, however, he responded, "a draftsman." Another patient pulled down his pants with the left hand and back up with the right in a continuing struggle. On a different occasion, this same patient's left hand made an attempt to strike the unsuspecting wife as the right hand grabbed the villainous limp to stop it. "

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-superhuman-mind/201211/split-brains

 

Having a broken spine means i have trouble meditating, i like negative ions, i found that the electro-magnetic Tesla device below helped me, however it does spit static lightning bolts at you ha ha!

It wouldn't suit everyone but it helps my meditation.

 

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[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

Phi equation can be Φ = 5 ^ .5 * .5 + .5

Measurements can be in plain sight in structures.

" The aluminum tip is placed on the top of the Washington Monument. It was the tallest building in the world upon its completion in 1884, standing 555 feet, 5.125 inches "

 

https://www.nps.gov/wamo/learn/historyculture/index.htm

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[Nungali]

On 15/11/2022 at 7:17 AM, Cobie said:

 

 

Numbers are not “alive” and cannot get “upset”, this is because numbers are merely abstract ideas.

 

 

As numbers cannot get upset, I  assume you were the one that got upset and projected your feeling onto the numbers.

 

 

 

No, for once I think he is right . The numbers did get upset with him .....it mus have been  all of  that  undercurrent superiority combined with a 'flare' for not answering questions put to him .... who can blame them ? 

 

But you are also right  as  1 + 1  = 2  ... if they where alive   1 + 1  =  3  

 

 

[Nungali]

10 hours ago, Archaeoastronomer (Archi) said:

More drawings below:-

 

We looked at a lot of these structures and flowers when I worked for BDA  ( Biodynamic Agriculture Australia ) .   A plant can, by its flower shape and structure , signal  which plant is more influenced by which planet and then use the appropriate astrological configuration for , planting, growth and harvesting .

 

Similar shapes can be generated via certain 'magic square ' generated mandalas .

 

 

 

 

You might like this one  ..... I  made a banner of it in appropriate planetary 4 colour scale  colours , for the  Rite of Mercury ; It' is Benjamin Franklin's magic square of 8 

 

 

 

Apparently Ben could draw these up virtually automatically

 

- if the reader does not know what a magic square is , it is an   ... ( actually  'any ' ) square grid 8 x 8 with all numbers listed once from 1 to  8²   now, add the numbers in any column , up, down, diagonal  and compare them with any other column total .

 

Plus a whole lot of other hidden surprises ;

 

 

But my point here is the relationship between Mercury and Gemini  : to see the Gemini glyph in the Mercury square, simply draw a line from 1 to 2 to 3 and so on   ( from the same point in each square  eg , the middle or the same corner of each square . )

 

Bored with proceedings at the Assembly, Franklin says he drew "magic squares or circles" to occupy his mind.

 

 

 

You might find this interesting Archie ; 

 

 

 

 

https://www.region.com.ar/amela/franklinsquares/

 

[Nungali]

It didnt show .... try again :  BF's  8 ;

 

 

draw a line from 1 to 2 to 3 .... to  64 .    

 

 

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[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

Hi Nungali,

I'm very interested in Ben Franklin and his drawings, he was interested in astrology as he produced "Poor Richards Almamack":-

I will write later i have a hospital appointment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_Richard's_Almanack

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[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

Hi Nungali,

Ben Franklin was a freemason, most follow the legend of Hiram Abiff, generally this section of masons don't use astrology magic:-

https://freemasonscommunity.life/the-role-that-hiram-abiff-plays-in-masonic-culture/

However the esoteric freemasons follow the Legend that they originated in Egypt, and the Regius Poem listed below:-

Part of this is below:-
Furthermore yet that ordained he,
Master called so should he be;
So that he were most worshipped,
Then should he be so called;
But masons should never one another call,
Within the craft amongst them all,
Neither subject nor servant, my dear brother,
Though he be not so perfect as is another;
Each shall call other fellows by cuthe, (friendship)
Because they come of ladies’ birth.
On this manner, through good wit of geometry,
Began first the craft of masonry;
The clerk Euclid on this wise it found,
This craft of geometry in Egypt land.

In Egypt he taught it full wide,
In divers lands on every side;
Many years afterwards, I understand,
Ere that the craft came into this land.
This craft came into England, as I you say,
In time of good King Athelstane’s day;
He made then both hall and even bower,
And high temples of great honour,
To disport him in both day and night,
And to worship his God with all his might.
This good lord loved this craft full well,
And purposed to strengthen it every del, (part)
For divers faults that in the craft he found;
He sent about into the land

It looks likely that Ben Franklin belonged to a group that believed in the Regius Poem.

He was involved with the Declaration of Independence:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Declaration_of_Independence

American Declaration of Independence, being on 4th July 1776 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Ancient Egyptian Sun rise day marker chosen, Alnilam, Belt of Orion and Osiris star was the heliacal rising star. Astronomical graph showing this below:-

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[Nungali]

Blue lodge Masons certainly dont use astrological magic , nor would they admit to using any type of magic .   The more esoteric  Red Lodge ( above third degree ) have spawned all sorts of  magical groups and have been behind the revival of 'modern' hermeticism ( ie.  a modern revival of hermeticism , mostly based on old, confused or defunct knowledge . Which is why it contains little validity ).

 

However 'neo-hermeticism' -  a much more modern and valid subject exists within this and this too came out of (originally ) esoteric Freemasonry, via the 'magical revival', and through the re-integration phase , eventually forming as 'The College of Hermetic Philosophers' - a 'college'  that incorporates members  , of the same degree, from different organisations , that comapre and share research.

 

(Just so you know , I am not just looking up stuff on the internet and regurgitating it here   ,  its something I had practical involvement with for many years . )

 

here is a good intro if one is not familiar with this subject ;

 

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

Hi Nungali,

I'm sure you have studied hermetic philosophy, and as you say there are dual factors that are unconnected. sometimes there are stories hidden in childrens books.

The Material that i write below is approx. 85% my own work, i hope you enjoy it. In J.K. Rowling's books about Harry Potter, there seems to be a real non-fiction characters hidden in. the fiction stories, the names are changed slightly, some examples below:-
Could Cassandra Vablatsky be Helena Blavatsky?

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Cassandra_Vablatsky

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky

 

Could Elphias Doge be Eliphas Levi?

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Elphias_Doge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Éliphas_Lévi

 

It would be really fun if Alastor "Mad Eye" Moody was modeled on Aleister Crowley

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Alastor_Moody

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

 

I'm just getting going on this subject but i think J.K.Rowling's Inspiration came from London in approx. 1888, it is true that writers get their inspiration from many sources, i used know, slightly, Micheal Ward, who found a code in the Narnia Books regarding symbolism with astrological signs that is fascinating, link below:-

My non-fiction story involves many politicians of the era plus the genesis of the UK Labour Party, and truth is stranger than fiction!
The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien was fantastic, but he was a member of the "Inklings", so was C.S.Lewis, but there were other members that these two gained inspiration from, please click on Owen Barfield on link below, who was very interested in mystical matters including Anthruposophy.
Please click on Charles Williams on link below that had been a member of "The Fellowship of the Rosy Cross, which is more than enough inspiration for "The Fellowship of the Ring".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Inklings

Further more the secret doorway to Moria looks very masonic:-

You can read about Gandhi's visit to the vegetarian restaurant in Farringdon Street, London on link below:-

https://ivu.org/news/evu/other/gandhi1.html

You will see that he met Helena Blavatsky but a lot of early socialist politicians used to visit the restaurant also, so it was a curious selection of diners, a lot of the Fabian Society ate there as well as many mystics, so many topics were discussed across the table!
Esoteric organizations usually mark the day of forming with one of two stars, Sirius, the Isis star or the center star of the Belt of Orion which is associated the Osiris, this is done by start of day, by Sunset previous to date being ancient Greek day marker, by modern midnight, or Sunrise being ancient Egyptian or Roman day start.
Then the four directions are used, being Due East or West being the horizon at location, and Due South being the culminating angle, or the opposite being Due North being the Nadir in the Northern Hemisphere.
The Vegetarian Society were formed on the 30th September 1847 in Ramsgate UK, so i have to show astronomy graph in two parts as the society chose sunrise at location while Sirius was culminating at Due South.

Quote:-

"

The Vegetarian Society

The business manager of Alcott House, William Oldham, responded to the letter by organising a conference at the school on Thursday July 8, 1847, to bring together those who might be interested in forming a society. The Salford Bible Christians were represented by James Simpson.

A second meeting was held on September 30, 1847, at Northwood Villa, home of the Hydropathic Institute in Ramsgate. Joseph Brotherton, MP for Salford, was invited to chair the historic meeting, and the Vegetarian Society was born, following a unanimously passed resolution. 150 members were soon enrolled.

https://vegsoc.org/about-us/history-of-the-vegetarian-society-early-history/

Below you will see that Sirius was culminating at Due South at location when Sun was rising, these alignments are used by esoteric hermetic mystics to mark their work:-

I know i'm being a bit long in explaining but i have to set the scene before i mention any other characters in the Harry Potter Books that may have been inspired by real people, please scroll down link below to "The Story of the Treasure Seekers", Rowling's mentions E.Nesbit and says "I think i identify with E. Nesbit more than any other writer"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_influences_and_analogues

E.Nesbit was a co-founder of the Fabian Society, a forerunner of the UK Labour Party, but surely the writer of "The Railway Children" wasn't a mystic?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Nesbit

I will leave you thinkig about if E.Nesbit was a mystic for a while LOL.

 

 

 

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

So the most influential writer regarding J.K. Rowling was E. Nesbit, but if you scroll down link below to "Known or Alleged Members" you will find E. Nesbit Mentioned!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn#Alleged_members

Perhaps the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn inspired J.K. Rowling with the "Order of the Phoenix".
Y.B. Yeats was a member, but he was also a member of the Ghost Club that i belonged to when i was a junior investigator regarding The Enfield Poltergeist LOL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ghost_Club

J.K. Rowling had many influences.
I don't think that Rowling will ever admit to real life influences for fear of hurting the Labour Party and Fabian Society, in 2008 she donated £1,000,000 to them.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/sep/20/labourconference.jkrowling

Perhaps Arthur Weasley was modeled on Arthur Waite or A.E. Waite?

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Arthur_Weasley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._E._Waite

Please remember the vegetarian element in the Fabian Society that diners mixed together, so could Sturgis Podmore be Frank Podmore, who was a founding member of the Fabian Society, like E. Nesbit, he was also a member of the Society of Psychical Research

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Sturgis_Podmore

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Podmore

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

As the leaves fell during the Autumn of Terror 1888, when Jack the Ripper lurked in the shadows, an 18 year old diminutive male arrived from India in London, he was very lonely and had come to study law....his mother told him not to eat meat as he was vegetarian. He was directed to one of few vegetarian restaurants in London, the people that he would meet there would change his whole life philosophy....his name was Gandhi.
If i said that the Vegetarian Society was esoteric now, you would laugh, but when you go back to the 19th Century, the society did attract mystics following Pythagoras, who was vegetarian.

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

J.K. Rowling before becoming an author was a researcher for Amnesty International, many of the characters in real life fought for human rights in very difficult times in 1888 that it is highly likely Rowling knew about, then being a communist wasn't such a dirty word as it hadn't been tested as in USSR, but these people during this period helped human rights.

https://literature.britishcouncil.org/writer/j-k-rowling

With all this in mind, perhaps Emmeline Vance was modeled on Emmeline Pankhurst

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Emmeline_Vance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_Pankhurst

Could Fabian Prewett be a code for the Fabian Society?

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Fabian_Prewett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society

Beatrice Webb was one of the leading lights of the Fabian Society, however her maiden name was POTTER.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrice_Webb

J.K. Rowling was an astrologer before she wrote books, although only for her friends as a present, so she would know star names like Sirus Black, Orion Black or Regulus Black all named after the stars:-

https://astrologyresearch.co.uk/j-k-rowling-world-famous-astrologer/

https://www.therowlinglibrary.com/2015/04/02/exclusive-j-k-rowlings-text-from-1994-pre-potter-era/

Orion Black was named after the Constellation of Orion.

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Orion_Black

Regulus Black was named after a Royal Persian star, leader of the angles of the Earth, and alpha star of Leo.

https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Regulus_Black

 

 

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

Quote:-

The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn created its first organizational body (termed “temple”) on March 1, 1888 with the signing of its official charter. This body was “Isis-Urania Temple No. 3.” The charter states that Isis-Urania Temple No. 3 of the Order of the G.D. in the Outer was chartered to be run by three named individuals as its chiefs. These chiefs were the ruling officers of the temple and acted as triumvirate of equals in that role.

https://hermetic.com/gdlibrary/the-nature-structure-and-role-of-the-soul/what-was-the-hermetic-order-of-the-golden-dawn

actually the temple was at 17 Fitzroy Street, London.

Secret societies day mark, this can be by ancient Greek day marker, being sunset previous to date, modern midnight or ancient Egyptian day marker being sunrise, then align to Due East, West, North or South
It is very apt that the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn chose sunrise Egyptian day marker, while True North or Nadir, pointed to the center star of the Belt of Orion called Alnilam associated with Osiris:-
A lot of characters were named after the stars as shown on link below:-

https://www.wizardingworld.com/features/the-harry-potter-characters-named-after-constellations

[Nungali]

I dont 'do' Harry Potter ,  Narnia or similar . I am not interested in where the authors pilfered their characters from ( 'based' them on , if one prefers ) .   Why read about fictional characters based on real one's when one can read the writings of the real ones ?

 

Although, I suppose one could amuse oneself by matching fictional characters with the people they where based on ?

 

 

[Nungali]

For more political occult scandal ... see who was in the Hellfire Club .... the 'trick' about dressing up a baboon 'like the devil' and releasing it out a cupboard in the middle of a 'magical' ceremony , and the  expose and resultant fight about the whole thing on the floor of parliament  .      

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

Hi Nungali,

Yes i do have a zany sense of humour, and sometimes write amusing thread sections that you find trivial, however this is balanced with astonomy study with 2,000 years of some dark history.

Obviously i applaud Hermetic philosophy, however there are duality being two opposing factions, where some are using this tradition but not on a spiritual path, who use the same type of astrology magic.

I'm not a prude over sexual magic as long as it consensual, i know i'm going to get heated exchanges regarding what i say below,

I have never been a member of a secret esoteric order either, but have been a member of the Ghost Club and The College of Psychic Studies in London:-

https://www.collegeofpsychicstudies.co.uk/

I have never signed secret oaths
I'm fascinated by Aleister Crowley, but it doesn't mean i like him, i have most of his books and the tarot cards:-

I have never tried out magic, however i have studied it in theory.
I am open minded, and not a prude, however i am a male Suffragette, and find how Crowley treated women under his spell, awful:-

Please note quotes below are on Wikipedia and open to younger readers about Leah Hirsig who come from Switzerland:-

"Crowley wrote one of his most confronting poems, "Leah Sublime" (which has been called "alarmingly obscene"), in her honour. In Leah, Crowley found an ideal magical partner. He called her vagina "the Hirsig patent vacuum-pump". "

"After Raoul Loveday died from drinking contaminated water at Cefalù, Mary Butts reported in one of her journals about Hirsig of an unsuccessful attempt to induce a he-goat to copulate with her at the Abbey of Thelema, emulating an ancient pagan ritual (an account corroborated by Crowley himself in an unpublished passage in one of his diaries).[2]"
She later returned to America to become a school teacher??????
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leah_Hirsig

I'm all for you being a Thothie, but there are good and bad secret societies that use astrology magic, and i would be aware of what is being written in the sky and how they use that power in the Akashic Records.

Near where i used to live there was a mental hospital, where one of his wives had lived, obviously she was driven to drink and had mental problems over Aleister Crowley,  although he was no. 73 in poll below:-

https://www.geni.com/projects/100-Greatest-Britons-BBC-Poll-2002/15375#:~:text=BBC Poll 100 Greatest Britons. Sir Winston Churchill%3B,Arthur Wellesley%2C 1st Duke of Wellington%3B Margaret Thatcher

"Once at its peak, the hospital started to slowly fall down. By the 1970s, the number of patients had been reduced to 1,500. Then in 1989, it was finally decided that the hospital was to be closed for good. Infamous inmates that were institutionalized at Friern Hospital include Jack the Ripper suspect Aaron Kosminski from 1891, and from 1911 the wife of occultist Aleister Crowley."

https://www.abandonedspaces.com/public/friern-hospital-it-once-housed-jack-the-ripper-now-home-to-various-pop-stars.html?firefox=1&Exc_D_LessThanPoint002_p1=1

Although brilliant, Crowley had his flaws, but moving on, The Hell Fire Club was very interesting and although we can't say Franklin was a member, he visited the club when he was in England:-

https://www.blahblahmedia.net/post/the-hellfire-club-and-benjamin-franklin

 

 

 

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[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

I thought you may be interested in thread below where my avatar is archaeoastronomer, but i leave another link where my avatar is monk, it is abaut a set of plays Crowley put on in 1910 called "The Rites of Eleusis" and we examine the beliefs in astrology energy that he may have used.  It may have a warning pop up, but doesn't have a virus:-

 

https://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11812

[Archaeoastronomer (Archi)]

Hi Nungali,

I remember reading about Crowley calling up the demon Choronzon, it must have been an awful shock coming face to face, i bet the poor demon was never the same again.
Just humour!

https://occult-world.com/choronzon/

 

I'm not setting out the rituals, but how Aleister Crowley used astrology magic, so he waited for days when Alnilam, Belt of Orion and Osiris star, or Sirius the Isis star was on a Cardinal Point, being Due South, North, East or West. this was done on one of three points of the day being ancient Greek day marker being sunset prevoius to date, the Florentine Calendar would explain:-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florentine_calendar

 

Sunrise being ancient Egyptian day marker, and after 1582 when the Gregorian Calendar was used, we now use midnight as the start of the day.
Crowley used Hermetic astrology and if he was invoking a powerful demon, he would use Sirius and Alnilam and Hermes/Mercury the Messenger of the Gods and master of magic.
https://www.hermetic-academy.com/hermes/

I thought i would start with when he called up the demon Choronzon, quote below:-
"The ritual for crossing the Abyss took place on December 6, 1909, outside the town of Bou Saada. Crowley and Neuberg walked out into the desert until they found a valley that had a suitable floor of fine sand. They formed a circle of rocks, drew around it a magic circle, and then drew a magic triangle. The Demon would be invoked into the triangle. The circle would protect Neuberg, who would sit within it, armed with a magical knife and a notebook for recording what happened. Crowley intended to enter the triangle, a dangerous act for a magician. He thus became perhaps the first magician in the Western magical tradition to offer his own body ritually as a vehicle for manifestation of a Demon.

Before the start of the ritual, Neuberg took an oath that he would defend the magic circle “with thoughts and words and deeds” and would use the knife to attack anything that entered it, even Crowley."

So the Date is 6 December 1909 near Bou Saada in Algeria.
Egyptian sunrise day marker was chosen, the Sun rose with Mercury within 2 degree's and Antares is near, while Sirius was setting in the West, a very powerful invoke, but he needed it if he messed with Choronzon, graph below:-