I need a little bit of assistance

[Aar0n]

Hello, my name is Aaron, I'm from Venezuela, I'm 16, well, so this happened;

2 days ago I was trying to get back into meditation after having a bad experience and a really bad scare honestly because of mantak chia's taoist secrets of love book, this incident happened october 12th, and what happened that day was that I had really bad anxiety and insomnia and I couldn't bring myself to sleep after practicing the big draw and the scrotal compression shit, anyways, in like 3 days I was back to normal to having a normal sleep and ever since then everything was good, my sleep quality was top notch as I dont drink coffee or take my phone to sleep with me, thanks to the guys in the forum, I understood not to practice without a teacher.

But as I said, 2 days ago, after having an  intense excellent 1hr exercise session from 6pm to 7pm, I did my post exercise stretches, and when it was time to go to sleep, I wanted to meditate, because I wanted to make it a habit, I have had a bad experience with meditating at night since the awareness and focus I felt wouldn't allow me to transition into a good night's rest, but after the incident, I wanted to check if something was different, of course, I DID NOT do the practices mantak chia promotes, NONE OF THEM, I avoided them at all costs, I didn't force anything, in fact, I only paid attention to my breathing and became inmersed with each inhalation and exhalation, without counting, of course I'd get thoughts here and there but it was just a mere 8 minute session, and while I was doing it I was telling myself things like "It's ok, you did great today, you trained well, you ate well, you're going to sleep at a good hour, it was a great day, however, it's time to sleep, so all you gotta do now is to relax, and rest." and then I did some deep breathing and I said alright time to sleep, I was not meditating while my back was on the bed, I was sitting half lotus, but anyways;

After doing that, I had some difficulty sleeping, and I was getting a bit anxious and worried, but I kept my calm just like last time, but honestly, facing the same situation unintentionally again, I had this app on my phone called Medito, where it's basically just guided meditations, there's a lot of guided meditations to choose from, gratefulness, sleep, focus, whatever, I went to the sleep option and I picked "Winding down for sleep" which was just a 8-13 minute session.

I did it, and halfway through some crazy shit happened, there was nothing forced of course, the meditation just told you to relax completely and release all tension from the body, some deep inhales and exhales, and by the end it allowed you to let your thoughts take over and allow you to sleep peacefully, while this was true and I felt very relaxed, my mind just went through some shit, or at least thats what I felt it like, so basically I'll explain to you what happened, and why I'm planning to never meditate again because this left me scared and I don't want it to happen anymore. I want to sleep well.

When the part of deep inhales and exhales came, I felt really relaxed, so relaxed, It felt nice and all, but what felt out of this world was what happened shortly after.

My head, I don't know, I felt a crazy surge of energy and it felt like getting pulled and I got scared because I'm like what the fuck am I about to get knocked out or something am I about to pass out?, so basically I kinda let it happen, and so it happened, and my head felt so hot, idk, I put my tongue up the palate just in case, pretty sure that does nothing, by the way, I'm laying on my back as this is happening, then I felt tingles and a slight cold feeling close to my dick and navel and I had an erection, and then yeah, that's my experience, I was so freaked out. After that since I obviously was anxious because I had no idea what happened and having in mind what happened October 12th, My anxiety kind of got the better of me but I still tried to reassure myself, so basically, I felt my head hot as fuck, and then I said well I'm going to take a shower since I didn't take one that day and I felt sluggish, took a cold shower, its like 12:30am, and the cold shower managed to cool me down and my head didn't feel as hot and I felt better, felt more confident I'd sleep well, I didn't sleep as much, but I slept 6 hours, but yesterday I slept only like 1, and yeah, I'm kinda worried right now, I saw somebody say something about yoga nidras in my october 12th post, but honestly that night I really wanted nothing to do with internal arts, as recommended by people on my last post, instead I did some stretches while listening to a entertaining video (yes, i took my phone to sleep, because if I didn't i have no idea how I would get past the night), and the stretches felt good and I felt very relaxed, I felt confident that I could sleep, but I didn't fall asleep, even though I'd try to sleep as I did (normally, just lay down, let thoughts carry you to deep sleep), so well, I'm there like damn, this is repeating itself again, and this time it's unintentionally, but anyways, it's going to be alright.

Today is the third day after that, I exercised today, and oh my god I was so sleepy throughout the routine, I did just the necessary stuff but nothing more, didn't feel like it, plus, I don't want to injure myself, I stretched after, then I took a cold shower, ate lunch, then watched a neymar documentary on netflix to relax a while. Haven't slept anything but I have high hopes that tonight I'm going to have an amazing sleep.

 

By the way, I feel even more anxious when I feel my heart beating while my body is all relaxed, so I try to take my focus out of it, it's just like last time.

I don't think I'll sit down in half lotus position and observe my breathing ever again, I'll just assume my training sessions and the stretching is part of my meditation, plus, this shit is complicated, there are so many styles of meditation, many paths, so many routes, it's scary for someone like me, I never expected that this was going to be this deep, I saw meditation as a way to exercise my focus, but this shit getting too far now, I don't want to be an insomniac everytime I want to meditate, so I'm considering never meditating again or take a really long long long break from meditation, like years, I don't know, but that's how things are right now, I believe and have high hopes I'll get out of this situation, it's very inconvenient but hey, you learn from these things.

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

10 hours ago, Aar0n said:

 I was sitting half lotus

Stop doing half lotus for every meditation, it’s only meant to be done for specific ones.

 

When you do half lotus it forces energy upwards, full lotus forces it even more. Just stick with plain old sitting cross legged unless otherwise instructed.

 

Also, FIND A TEACHER

[Aar0n]

4 hours ago, Pak_Satrio said:

Stop doing half lotus for every meditation, it’s only meant to be done for specific ones.

 

When you do half lotus it forces energy upwards, full lotus forces it even more. Just stick with plain old sitting cross legged unless otherwise instructed.

 

Also, FIND A TEACHER

 

Ooh so that's why things happened how they did.. by the way, last night I slept really well, I'm ok now, the insomnia is gone.

[Aar0n]

Do you know any good online teachers? Like some that I can look up on youtube or something, i dont know, but that's just in case if I do get back into meditating, I want to do things right if I come back to it

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

Just now, Aar0n said:

Do you know any good online teachers? Like some that I can look up on youtube or something, i dont know, but that's just in case if I do get back into meditating, I want to do things right if I come back to it

If you learn from YouTube you will be in the exact same situation, messing yourself up in another way. You need direct contact with a teacher who can guide you the way and help did you if any problems occur. There are plenty good teachers recommended on here that teach online.

[Wilhelm]

5 hours ago, Aar0n said:

Do you know any good online teachers? Like some that I can look up on youtube or something, i dont know, but that's just in case if I do get back into meditating, I want to do things right if I come back to it

Good for you man!  

 

I was not into this sort of cool shit at age 16. 

 

Another fella here put together some quality beginner friendly exercises you could try when you come back.  YouTube is indeed a cesspool of weak or dangerous content but this stuff is both safe and effective provided you don't add anything on top of it.

 

Also if you search Mantak Chia on here you'll find a bunch of us went through similar problems with his work 😂 0/5* would not recommend 

 

 

 

 

[ChiDragon]

On 12/15/2022 at 3:07 PM, Aar0n said:

Hello, my name is Aaron, I'm from Venezuela, I'm 16, well, so this happened;

2 days ago I was trying to get back into meditation after having a bad experience and a really bad scare honestly because of mantak chia's taoist secrets of love book, this incident happened october 12th, and what happened that day was that I had really bad anxiety and insomnia and I couldn't bring myself to sleep after practicing the big draw and the scrotal compression shit, anyways, in like 3 days I was back to normal to having a normal sleep and ever since then everything was good, my sleep quality was top notch as I dont drink coffee or take my phone to sleep with me, thanks to the guys in the forum, I understood not to practice without a teacher.

Please don't practice what is in BOLD. It is the worse thing that could ruin the life of a teenager. I was a teenager once. Believe me, it was horrible. You are lucky that you have discovered the danger of the practice at 16. You can stop it early. It was not the meditation that caused your problem. It was the culprit in BOLD. The meditation will help you to be in good health. As in my case, I practiced Taiji for years to bring my health back together. I also practice sitting meditation and slow deep breathing exercise. The point is to bring in the oxygen into your body to generate the energy for the function of the organs.

Scrotal compression will cause nerve damage, it will ruin your reproductive system. It may cause internal pain in the belly that no one can bear with. Luckily, I have a solution to get rid of the pain in few minutes. I have had helped a few people in this forum before, before I was banned. As a matter of fact, I had posted many times here before too. This secret even an acupuncturist would not know.

If you have this problem, I don't think you have, I am glad to post it again. Perhaps it might help others in the future.

Edited December 16, 2022 by ChiDragon

[Aar0n]

24 minutes ago, ChiDragon said:

If you have this problem, I don't think you have, I am glad to post it again. Perhaps it might help others in the future.

Well, I don't have any belly pain, or nerve damage, and my reproductive system is fine, I can get an erection if I want to, I don't have morning wood yet as I'm trying to reduce my masturbation frequency and my porn consumption, because thanks to fucking Mantak Chia's dumbass dangerous teachings, after practicing the kegel exercises and stuff since I figured that squeezing hard during ejaculation wouldn't let any liquid out (but of course, having a retrograde ejaculation after) I just kept doing and doing it for like everytime I had an orgasm, and so my addiction got worse since now I didn't feel as much loss of energy and so I could go again and again or just last a long ass time (like 4 hours) while ALSO watching porn, so I effectively just fried myself hahahaha but it's ok, I'm starting to reduce and decrease all of that little by little, I'll try to not watch porn ever again, and about masturbation, I'll aim to keep it so I do it once a week minimum, I think that's healthy in my opinion, and I spent a lot of time feeling down and not feeling happy or fulfilled with life but it was just because I found everything boring and stupid thanks to porn, but I'm so happy that I still had an opportunity to change!, Life is beautiful, even with all it's stresses and challenges, so I learned and I'll just move on, I used to think semen retention was the absolute truth but I'm not even going to lie to you, I'm a teenager, it's hard as fuck, my hormones are going crazy, and the least I can do is to stop watching porn and avoid a masturbation addiction, so yeah, I came out unscathed from trying out mantak chia's methods, they were risky but thank God I stopped and realized what's really realistic for me.

[Aar0n]

13 minutes ago, Aar0n said:

Well, I don't have any belly pain, or nerve damage, and my reproductive system is fine, I can get an erection if I want to, I don't have morning wood yet

Of course there are nights and mornings that I have an erection but it's very rare, and it's only like after I stop watching porn for a few days, I'm sure I get erections while I'm sleeping though, so I guess I'm ok, the fact that bad practices like that can damage your body to such extent is so scary to me omg, I remember that day, scrotal compression almost made me pass out, I don't know if you can heal that with time, I think it's possible, but the thought of that gives me anxiety, because you see in my country and culture nobody really knows about this so if somebody were to damage themselves with something like that, it would be over, they wouldn't be able to find somebody to guide and lecture them, so I gotta be grateful with all of you guys for helping me and reassuring me that things are ok and guiding me through the proper way.

I leave you with a picture of the GOAT!!

Edited December 17, 2022 by Aar0n
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