salaam123 Posted April 1, 2023 What is the chi, that you can see as like water in someones eyes(not physical water)? I think it is housed in the midsection, and if you don't have a chi ball in your midsection to house it, some of it can be extinguished with antipsychotic medicine, or by watching porn(these are the two I have experience with). I still have some of it, even though I'm on medication, but a strange thing happened, that when I got paranoid that my friend has made a trap to kill me, that night I fell to the urge of porn and masturbation and then my paranoia went away after that. Before I thought that my ruined energybody may be the source of my mental illness, but could it be that this chi is circulating ncorrectly and it causes schizhoprenia? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted April 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, salaam123 said: Before I thought that my ruined energybody may be the source of my mental illness, but could it be that this chi is circulating ncorrectly and it causes schizhoprenia? No, it was the former due to the excessive masturbation but not the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salaam123 Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: No, it was the former due to the excessive masturbation but not the latter. I don't masturbate a lot, usually only when my jing is full and I can't escape it. Before being committed to the hospital the last time, my abstinence period would be about six months at a time. So I don't think it is the reason for my schizophrenia. edit. I see you may have meant that my ruined energy body is due to excessive masturbation, not schizophrenia. Do you know this chi I talked about? Is there a way to get it more/make it flow correctly? When Im not on medication it comes in great amounts. I think it is the Spirit of God, but it is strange that medication suppresses it(when there is no storage place for it). The feeling of the Spirit that is living inside of you if you give your life to Christ has stayed the same regardless of medication. It is a feeling of fullness. This chi/Spirit in the midsection that is the topic now is kind of hard to explain, maybe its like water. When I was in the hospital the last time there was a poster of a bear and I could see the same chi/spirit in its eyes. Also I have seen it in at least 2 persons before(one of them in a photo). Edited April 1, 2023 by salaam123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted April 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, salaam123 said: Do you know this chi I talked about? Is there a way to get it more/make it flow correctly? This chi(stagnation) you are talking about is an imaginary term used by TCM practicianers as scapegoat if they have no explanation for the cause. The term "chi stagnation", in TCM, means malfunction of an organ or organs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salaam123 Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: This chi(stagnation) you are talking about is an imaginary term used by TCM practicianers as scapegoat if they have no explanation for the cause. The term "chi stagnation", in TCM, means malfunction of an organ or organs. I added some text to my previous reply. Do you think that there is just something wrong with my brain, like the western theory of schizophrenia tells us, and it is better that I stay on medication until I die? Edited April 1, 2023 by salaam123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lairg Posted April 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, salaam123 said: there is just something wrong with my brain, like the western theory of schizophrenia The brain issue is a mechanism and not a cause. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted April 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, salaam123 said: edit. I see you may have meant that my ruined energy body is due to excessive masturbation, not schizophrenia. Well, your ruined energy body for whatever reason will cause schizophrenia too. The energy in your body determines the physical and mental health of you. Definitely there is something that is causing your mental illness. Was there something happened to you before that you weren't aware of at all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salaam123 Posted April 1, 2023 Just now, Lairg said: The brain issue is a mechanism and not a cause. What could be the cause? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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salaam123 Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: Well, your ruined energy body for whatever reason will cause schizophrenia too. The energy in your body determines the physical and mental health of you. Definitely there is something that is causing your mental illness. Was there something happened to you before that you weren't aware of at all? No, nothing that I can recall. I did some standing chi kung for a couple of years. In the end I was always lessening the time because I felt something was always about to possess me if I did it any longer. My first symptoms of mental illness started about 2 years after I started to try to correct my energy body, since there was something leeching my chi. All the time I got weaker day by day. This was the reason I started messing with my chi. Edited April 1, 2023 by salaam123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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ChiDragon Posted April 1, 2023 47 minutes ago, salaam123 said: No, nothing that I can recall. I did some standing chi kung for a couple of years. In the end I was always lessening the time because I felt something was always about to possess me if I did it any longer. As far as I know, mental problem will cause the body to be weaken. Unfortunately, even if you tried to correct it by practicing Qigong. Mental depression is hard to overcome but it can be faded away over time. Somehow, based on what you are telling me, I still couldn't figure out what is the cause of your mental illness. Can you describe what kind of mental illness that you have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blissdao9 Posted April 2, 2023 3 hours ago, salaam123 said: What is the chi, that you can see as like water in someones eyes(not physical water)? I think it is housed in the midsection, and if you don't have a chi ball in your midsection to house it, some of it can be extinguished with antipsychotic medicine, or by watching porn(these are the two I have experience with). I still have some of it, even though I'm on medication, but a strange thing happened, that when I got paranoid that my friend has made a trap to kill me, that night I fell to the urge of porn and masturbation and then my paranoia went away after that. Before I thought that my ruined energybody may be the source of my mental illness, but could it be that this chi is circulating ncorrectly and it causes schizhoprenia? If one's mental state is not stable and still, one should not be messing with the energies in the first place. Even if one had a stable mind, one should not be casually circulating energy like that. From your situation, it is difficult to know the exact cause, but one apparent issue is overthinking. It is important to understand that you should not jump to conclusions, as they will not do you any good. The reason is that the conclusion is not the solution but just another thought that can lead you astray. The first thing one should do is sit still, allow the mind to clear all the nonsense, and relax the body. The more one focuses or rejects on the the issues and causes, the more they will grow. So one must focus on becoming still and aware enough to allow the self to settle down and "become" the solution. Albert Einstein said, “You cannot solve a problem with the same mind that created it.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
salaam123 Posted April 2, 2023 12 hours ago, ChiDragon said: As far as I know, mental problem will cause the body to be weaken. Unfortunately, even if you tried to correct it by practicing Qigong. Mental depression is hard to overcome but it can be faded away over time. Somehow, based on what you are telling me, I still couldn't figure out what is the cause of your mental illness. Can you describe what kind of mental illness that you have? When Im not on medication, I see things that other people don't see. And I have paranoia also. Im not actually depressed, I have a clinically diagnosed "paranoid schizophrenia". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantalor Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) Hmm, seems to me like you seem to use your "outlet" to cope with the things you see or want to see and that you try to erase it from your mind or get results for whatever system you try to dabble in. Well not that i may judge, as im somewhat insane myself, but i am still clear in my insanity, which allows sometimes to see things more clear. But as for the things you see and feel, i for myself would recommend you to try to let it flow, as you may lose things you may very well loose forever. (as similar said by @blissdao9) Sorry if i offend you, but going by what you wrote up to now, i see you as someone who either has the eyes to see Chi, or as someone who wants to have them and get powers fast. First one would be a gift by nature to you, the second one is at least in my opinion the way to stray from the way as far as possible, which may also represent and cause your disorder. (sorry if it is offensive for you but i like to dabble in psychology, and this is what i read from you) Anyway, it doesnt matter which of the two you are, everything has a order, which should only be broken if you know what you do, especially energywork, which you seemingly did not (which may be the case for me too, but also for your disorder too). But you can not learn how to drive on a trycicle and then expect to be able to drive a porsche. So if you can see chi, i would recommend to try to "synchronize" your eyes witrh your feeling and mind. As a fracture of all of these can create your "condition". I would recommend you: Don´t start with energywork, as this will strengthen this fracture, as you already seem to have experienced. Start by meditating and breathing exercises, maybe use the basic balancing Qigong described in some works, for example Daimo mitchells (edit: scrap daimo ... there was one good work on zang zhuang afair ... forgot the names, try that one) . And really try to hold onto an outline without pressing for results, as this will be more damaging than useful. Meditation may also be a good way to start, coupled with sports like yoga, pilates or rolfing. Energywork has not to start with the big guns, it will grow onto one if one is concious of what he does and begins to have clear intentions behind his actions. But the main thing and in my opinion the most important one is to be completely in synch with yourself! Edit: Anyways teh Quokka is going to get a cake and coffe now.... Edited April 18, 2023 by Phantalor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites