The Green

[Cameron]

Ok, excluding RJ..the self proclaimed mastah of Taoist bonk toking and big draws...how many of the TB's smoke weed?

 

I started smoking week as a troubled teeneager..I think I was like 13,14 the first time. It was an amazing and frightning experience. I felt that I was awake in a dream but that life itself was the dream. I kept saying over and over "It's all a dream...it's all a dream."

 

So it was kind of tough to go back to whatever I thought was cool in middle school or high school after that.

 

I would say I basically wasted my high school years on weed and playing video games. I sort of got my act together but then became a near daily pot smoker when I started college.

 

the funny thing I got into meditation, qigong etc. along the way but I still had these weed smoking friends who came around.

 

The last time I smoked was a little over 2 years ago. It was some really good shit. I went outside and looked up at the stars and they were all flying around. In Az you go out and night and you can just see everything.

 

I remember looking at the sky thinking how all the stars are no longer statinary..they can now fly..and maybe the earth is going tos tart flying around to another part of the universe all of a sudden..gravity is no more!

 

So that was it..I know prefer to deal in reality.

 

But maybe some of you have a different opnion of the stuff? I have written posts on the HT board over the years about my experiences wth different drugs. I would say mushrooms(Pscylocibin) would be the one I would deem most spiritual. It was really out of body for me.

 

but I wouldn't ever recommend weed/shrooms to anyone for any genuine spiritual insight. It's insanely fun/dangerous entertainment at best.

 

So what's the general opnion..more or less a waste of time? Fun on occasion..

 

I am not talking about health here. Health wise it's all crap .I mean in terms of life in general..your outlook and shit..

[peter falk]

i think my most spiritual experiences came on LSD, but shrooms were good too. as far as i'm concerned, it can be a useful tool for waking up. i'm not gonna take the PC stance and say i regret it or that i would never recommend it (not saying you are, cameron, as you may truly believe in your heart what you said).

 

everyone's on a different path. shaman have used different medicines for ages, some of them psychoactive, to assist them in their Way. now we have modern versions of the same. the problem is, people identify with the method, instead of the state. they think LSD or pot or whatever will free them from the prison of the mind.

 

had i never done acid, i might never have gotten on this path. it was the key to the doorway, or the toll at the gate, the universe offered to me, and i used it. when i ws done, i gave it up and found new and different methods for continuing the process whcih staying with drugs would've impeded. i don't regret a minute of it, and i had a great time.

 

but it's not for everyone. there many ways of finding the path and working on your own evolution. some are useless to some people, some are even dangerous to some people. this method worked well for me and i'm glad i did it. i'm also glad i ahd the good sense to move on. like tom brown says, "when the process is finished, abandon the process."

 

still like a toke o' hash a cupla times a year.......

[Yoda]

"I see dead people... that's some good shit!"

 

Only very rarely. Lots of fun. I've been known to behave irresponsibly on it, for which I have pretended to repent. So there is a risk factor.

 

One fond memory is of clam baking in a tent on the highest point in Jamaica and we kept joking that we were the highest dudes on the island and we just couldn't get over the double entendre.

 

Whenever I get high, I prentend that my joint is an Imperial Starship.

 

-Yoda

[Cameron]

LSD is like mushrooms x10. I think the US government considers selling or even possessing it to be a serious crime.

 

I once had a cop come in to a guys house when we were all tripping on LSD and had an oz of ganja sitting on the table when I was like 17. I was freaking out flushing the LSD down the tiolet and the cop found the weed and then gave it back to us. Man, I was a lucky little bastard(I am a rabbit though)

 

As for the PC. Yeah, I here you. I mean I guess I could be 100% honest and say how LSD opened up barriers in my self that I didn't realize evene xisted .How I realizes how fake I was and how fake my firends were and how illusory it all was. It was like damn I am so full of crap..I need to improve myself..

 

Now..how do I improve myself?

 

And that did lead to a kind of frantic search for people that were real and authentic. That sort of lived in this reality that had been opened up to me. A universe that wasn't so defined and heavy..

 

I think what it really was is we were so immature and dumb and young and clueless. Like most people who do LSD or shrooms in College or whatever and just arent really ready for that. I mean..after I tripped I would be walking around for days just questioning everything..

 

I know Native Amercian Indians sometimes use Peyote(mescaline) as part of thier rituals and practice..

 

I guess I don't regret doing it..I just feel uncomfortable being at all pro LSD/Shrooms because I knew kids who had really bad experiences with them and even died. It's sort of hard to feel good about that.

 

It really comes down to the individual and the enviormnment..and obviously that whole being illegal thing...

 

Weed..I mean EVERYONE has smoked weed..

[Lozen]

I smoked pot a little in college, maybe once a month or so, a lot more my senior year when I was freaking out over what I was gonna do when I graduated. I quit on Halloween '02...haven't smoked it since. Okay, I'm lying, I smoked it once since then, but only because I had a crush on a girl and we went to the labyrinth and it was a perfect couple of moments. But I didn't enjoy the weed. I actually really feel a lot less spacy and more grounded since I stopped. Well they say it depletes kidney jing in a couple books I read which I agree with, esp. people who can keep smoking and never get stoned. But I love marijuana oil used externally for things like fibromyalgia. Ate hashcakes once and had a really bad trip, I mean really terrible, and I actually think I lost a lot of soul parts, I remember when I completely lost my peripheral vision, it was like having blinders on. It was scary. I did shrooms once and I forgot most of it except that I made my boyfriend at the time walk for five hours (or so he says) and that I became plant (not a plant, but plant! i insisted, to which he told me i wasn't really plant, i was having a physical reaction to hallucinogenic drugs. party pooper) and i saw faeries in the floorboards and asked him to bring his guitar out into the hallway to keep us company. the next day everything was normal went to class and everything but the day after that i got totally depressed, worse than i've ever been. it was really terrible. i wanted to be plant again. i guess drugs just don't work well with me, i don't know how to integrate the visions/experiences i have when i am on them. i did feel a lot of qi when i smoked pot and same when i have caffeine but i wonder if it is qi i am using up or depleting unnecessarily. I guess I am sorta anti-drug, though I enjoy drinking occasionally and even getting rip roaring drunk occassionally. I also play with all kinds of herbal relaxants... What else, oh yeah I smoked salvia once and nothing happened.

[Cameron]

It seems to be a really individual thing. Some guys who are really Yang and smoke weed daily and it seems to help them. Now, it would probably be better if they learned to balance themselves out using qigong but they don't have an interest in that. Psychadelics are super tricky .You can either have the most amazing experience or something that will basically fuck with your perception like what you had.

 

this is why I don't ever reccomend pscychadelics. even though I had SOME cool experience with them I probably had an equal amount of downright scary shit. I mean like really losing touch with the border of reality and something that resembles a greater reality but is not really inhabitable on a daily existence level.

 

Actually, it probably is something close to the daily awareness of the enlightened, minus the hallucinations and out of body feeling.

 

I had what I would call a semi enlightenment experience with Zen and the first thing I recongnized was how it was like the pscychadelic experience without all the negative crap that goes along with it. Just the open feeling of oneness and almost childish giddiness at my self in relation to the universe and other beings. A feeling of profound love and appreciation.

 

But that told me this is something you can get to naturally and without drugs..howerver drugs do seem to open those higher centers, deeper understanding, whatever you want to call it..but they can be dangerous.

 

If we are going to use the fire and water language .Pscychadelics are like an extreme fire method that almost instantly brings you to a state of higher consciosness, but at the same time burns up lots of jing. I had to spend years of qigong and chinese herbs to get back the jing I burned up with drugs.

 

but I will probably smoke some good weed at some point in the future..just to have fun...

 

I guess I was just wondering if anyone had some really positve experience with weed...looks like no

[Lozen]

Interestingly enough I just hung out with someone who did. He said he smoked the other day and hallucinated for 6 hours and first he became lungs and he became his body and then he realized the innerconnectedness of all things. And he said a bunch of other stuff I couldn;'t understand or relate to at all. He has excess yin, I think.

[GrandTrinity]

The way I see it, drugs just have to be balanced. I you smoke herb or eat fungi you got to first be able to get to that level of highness/relaxtion without the drugs...you have a lot to learn. Then, perhaps you can indulge. Do not expect to get enlightened or reach the infinite on drugs...only studying with the highest shamans in the world will take you down the right path. Check out the 4 dimensional school....

www.dumai.org

and

www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com

[RON JEREMY]

YA EVIL SEED O SATTAN, YA MAGOT INFESTED TAMPON O BABALON, YA EMBODIMENT O PRECCAMBRIAN FURNICCATIONS, YA TALMUDDICAL RESIDUE O INFECTIOUS CIRCUMCISIONS, YA CONCOTION O WITCHES SABBATH, YA TRAMP O BALZEBBUUB,

WHY ARE YA EX-CLUDDIN ME FROM DA POLL???

 

 

 

 

Ok, excluding RJ..the self proclaimed mastah of Taoist bonk toking and big draws...how many of the TB's smoke weed?

 

I started smoking week as a troubled teeneager..I think I was like 13,14 the first time. It was an amazing and frightning experience. I felt that I was awake in a dream but that life itself was the dream. I kept saying over and over "It's all a dream...it's all a dream."

 

So it was kind of tough to go back to whatever I thought was cool in middle school or high school after that.

 

I would say I basically wasted my high school years on weed and playing video games. I sort of got my act together but then became a near daily pot smoker when I started college.

 

the funny thing I got into meditation, qigong etc. along the way but I still had these weed smoking friends who came around.

 

The last time I smoked was a little over 2 years ago. It was some really good shit. I went outside and looked up at the stars and they were all flying around. In Az you go out and night and you can just see everything.

 

I remember looking at the sky thinking how all the stars are no longer statinary..they can now fly..and maybe the earth is going tos tart flying around to another part of the universe all of a sudden..gravity is no more!

 

So that was it..I know prefer to deal in reality.

 

But maybe some of you have a different opnion of the stuff? I have written posts on the HT board over the years about my experiences wth different drugs. I would say mushrooms(Pscylocibin) would be the one I would deem most spiritual. It was really out of body for me.

 

but I wouldn't ever recommend weed/shrooms to anyone for any genuine spiritual insight. It's insanely fun/dangerous entertainment at best.

 

So what's the general opnion..more or less a waste of time? Fun on occasion..

 

I am not talking about health here. Health wise it's all crap .I mean in terms of life in general..your outlook and shit..

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[Cameron]

Just wanted the opinion of TB's under the age of 42 on this one bro

 

And we already know your a porn star and your satan worshipping lifestlye must include lots of drugs so your input on the matter may be unclear.

 

Also you only type in caps so I thought you were stoned most of the time regardless..or your a Republican..

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pot was a huge, massive bonus to my cultivation, when I was learning to cultivate. You know despite the fact that I am at a pretty shitty stage of cultivation I still think I am pretty sensitive to energy... why? well pot probably had alot to do with that!! that and solo-cultivation. pot made me crazy though. I really payed for its benefits... at times I could be delusional... paranoid.... hell for a while I thought I was jesus incarnate. (I still think I am going to be enlightened, at least, though, sooo....)

anyways it really really helped me become sensitive to energy. you know old tantric dudes smoked alot of pot, experimented and even wrote manuals describing how certain kinds of strains effected the spiritual body... chakras more specificaly if I remember right.

 

oh oh oh ! I did shrooms while I was in medic school. my first time it was great.I had been drunk for several hours before... was still a bit buzzed when I took the shrooms... first it was just crazy. it was like I was super-madly-wildly drunk and was and I was alllll over the carpet, giggling at everything giggling crazily... I remember talking about the energy.. all I could say was "the energy! the energy!"... dont remember what it was like.. except one part... I went to the toilet and sat down and put my head between my knees.. and just went out... I lost awareness of my body, I think. It was just a sea of energy. nothing dramatic. just blackness with this white flow of energy, except there was no black or white, or energy or no-energy, but there was flowing and yet there was no flowing... anyways it was no state I am crazy about being in. anyways when I woke up out of this I was enlightened. no doubt about it, I wasnt just trippin I really fucking was enlightened. ... though in a different sense that I fantasize about.. but I was so sure of myself. You might even say arrogant. people were disgusting to me. they were just poor dumb fools. I felt intuitively what they felt and thought. what REALLY fed all this is that not only could I feel what they were feeling... but they cowered before me. they were SO intimidated, and I felt it. I had never felt so much respect.

 

anyways it wore off as soon as I went to sleep. when I woke up this feeling was still there, like residue, and it faded with time to nothing. it is great ti be reminded of this.....

[Cameron]

On a serious note, Indonesian courts just sentenced a 27 year old Australian woman to 20 years in prison for smuggling 9 lbs of marijuana in her surfboard.

 

Bali(indonesian) courts were actually going for the death penalty but the Australian govenment interceded and got it to a life sentence.

 

Wasn't there a movie about this with Clare Danes? Sad stuff..

[mbanu]

Never smoked weed. I got most of my weed inspired skills through osmosis by hanging out with potheads all the time, kinda like I got my ecstasy-inspired skills through hanging out with ravers.

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hey, if it's one guy who I miss... or i guess it was all the cool insights, advice, and knowledgw i miss... hope this isnt just a one time appearance.... ?

[Cameron]

Watched the documentary "Weed" on the sundance channel yesterday. It goes behind the scenes at the Cannibis Cup awards they have annually in Amsterdam. Thousands of pot smokers and advocates get together to smoke and judge the best marijuuana in the world.

 

A friend of mine who went to Amsterdam said the shit they call bubble gum is crazy and i got to see what it looked like and all these pot conessiuers giving there impressions. I don't even really smoke pot anymore but think it would be cool to check the Cannabis Cup put one year just for the experience. 1 week of smoking the best pot in the world.

 

Also..prostitution is legal along with everything else. I wonder why RJ hasnent moved there yet and chooses to live in Hell-A. Or as some Iranians call it "little Tehran".

[el_tortugo]

Never smoked weed. I got most of my weed inspired skills through osmosis by hanging out with potheads all the time, kinda like I got my ecstasy-inspired skills through hanging out with ravers.

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[GrandTrinity]

Look at the 5 element creation and destruction cycle.

 

Tree nourishes fire, and destorys h20.

 

May god grant 1 good luck balancing that!

[GrandTrinity]

Anyone seen this book "The emporer wears no clothes" by Jack Herer, I HIGHLY recommend it.