Stranger things

[Taomeow]

8 hours ago, Sanity Check said:

 

If you say that only 10% of dry land is occupied by people. Then you must believe that 100% of dry land can reasonably be occupied. With 100% occupation naturally translating to 100% of forests in the world being cut down. Does this sound like a good idea when its put into perspective?

 

Thanks for justifying the thread's title.  It's one of the stranger conclusions for sure.

 

No, anprim is a pipe dream, not a plan, much less a plan to cut the remaining trees and install parking lots.  The dream is to restore all the forests in all their glory (not a theory in my case, been to many, lived a "primitive" life for a month at a time a number of times, loved every second of it...  and not all of those forests and rivers even exist today and those that do are shrinking...  or should I say being shrunk.  By "progress," and also by war, an inalienable feature of civilization.) 

 

Restoring the forests, that's the dream, with all of their biodiversity.  Living the way we did for a million years.  Not in the cities.  Not in the villages.  Not in the suburbs.  Not in apartment buildings, not in high rises, not in family houses that breed alienation, not the way we have been forced to live for the past 8 to 12 thousand years (a nanosecond in historical time) but the way we always lived before hostile takeover of the planet by something that is primarily anti-aliveness.  A dream is a dream, I don't believe it's possible to reverse civilization, which I see as a one way ticket to a dead end.

 

Maybe it happened before.  There's supposedly some evidence that it happened before, maybe many times before.  But if that's the case, it always ends the same way.  Civilization is not sustainable.  It is a nanosecond of skipped heartbeat in the rhythm of the planet, is all. 

 

Also sprach Taomeow.    

[liminal_luke]

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Edited December 7 by liminal_luke

[liminal_luke]

Here´s a strange thing: I don´t know how to be an environmentalist.  Like most, I want clean air and clean water.  I want green forests with lots of lakes and rivers, bears hunting salmon and dragonflies flitting about.  But I no longer trust the people who are selling me that picture.  I wonder whether their true allegiance is with the dragonflies or with dollars.

[Nungali]

TM :  " ... Maybe it happened before.  There's supposedly some evidence that it happened before, maybe many times before.  But if that's the case, it always ends the same way.  Civilization is not sustainable.  It is a nanosecond of skipped heartbeat in the rhythm of the planet, is all. "

 

.........

 

Well ,  here , some of them did it up to  ....

 

1984 !   can you believe that !

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pintupi_Nine

 

and not only that, they lived in the heart of the Gibson  Desert  *   !    And not only that   :  " Medical examination revealed that the Tjapaltjarri clan (as they are also known) were "in beautiful condition. Not an ounce of fat, well proportioned, strong, fit, healthy".

 

* 

 

 

 

One of the Pintupi Nine  'meeting a truck '

 

 

( Feel ... feel ... yeah, thats a real thing .... whatever it is ? )

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 7 by Nungali

[Nungali]

2 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

Here´s a strange thing: I don´t know how to be an environmentalist.  Like most, I want clean air and clean water.  I want green forests with lots of lakes and rivers, bears hunting salmon and dragonflies flitting about.  But I no longer trust the people who are selling me that picture.  I wonder whether their true allegiance is with the dragonflies or with dollars.

 

here is a strange related fact .... dragonlies are the most successful hunter ... with a 90%  catch rate .

 

Dont mess with them !

 

         

[Taomeow]

5 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

here is a strange related fact .... dragonlies are the most successful hunter ... with a 90%  catch rate .

 

Dont mess with them !

 

         

 

 

One of the rivers where I once spent a month kayaking, from its messy beginnings amidst a jumble of reeds all the way to the city from which we took a train home, was a habitat to countless blue dragonflies that like to hang out near the water.  They were a brilliant metallic sapphire blue all over, body and wings and all, and they were all around all the time.  Messing with them seemed impossible -- they were incredibly fast, and their 360 degree eyesight prevented a snatching hand sneaking onto them, they always knew what you were up to.  Look but don't touch was the credo they lived by.  

 

[old3bob]

[old3bob]

19 hours ago, Taomeow said:

 

Thanks for justifying the thread's title.  It's one of the stranger conclusions for sure.

 

No, anprim is a pipe dream, not a plan, much less a plan to cut the remaining trees and install parking lots.  The dream is to restore all the forests in all their glory (not a theory in my case, been to many, lived a "primitive" life for a month at a time a number of times, loved every second of it...  and not all of those forests and rivers even exist today and those that do are shrinking...  or should I say being shrunk.  By "progress," and also by war, an inalienable feature of civilization.) 

 

Restoring the forests, that's the dream, with all of their biodiversity.  Living the way we did for a million years.  Not in the cities.  Not in the villages.  Not in the suburbs.  Not in apartment buildings, not in high rises, not in family houses that breed alienation, not the way we have been forced to live for the past 8 to 12 thousand years (a nanosecond in historical time) but the way we always lived before hostile takeover of the planet by something that is primarily anti-aliveness.  A dream is a dream, I don't believe it's possible to reverse civilization, which I see as a one way ticket to a dead end.

 

Maybe it happened before.  There's supposedly some evidence that it happened before, maybe many times before.  But if that's the case, it always ends the same way.  Civilization is not sustainable.  It is a nanosecond of skipped heartbeat in the rhythm of the planet, is all. 

 

Also sprach Taomeow.    

 

yea, those semi or pre-neolithic women had a blast running barefoot on lava rock and were just super tough along with good hair days...

Edited December 8 by old3bob

[Nungali]

10 hours ago, old3bob said:

 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

3 hours ago, old3bob said:

 

yea, those semi or pre-neolithic women had a blast running barefoot on lava rock and were just super tough along with good hair days...

 

 

Typical modern person thinking ancient times where great ! 

My God man !  Haven't you even considered the dinosaurs ! 

 

 

 

 

and of course  not just dinosaurs but other people could also be a threat

 

 

Edited December 8 by Nungali

[old3bob]

44 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

 

Typical modern person thinking ancient times where great ! 

My God man !  Haven't you even considered the dinosaurs ! 

 

 

 

 

and of course  not just dinosaurs but other people could also be a threat

 

 

 

well I think by the context of the movie cave bears and saber tooth tigers would have been correct (but that is Hollywood for you) ...Btw, any red blooded teenage boy who was not awed by Raquel was not a red blooded teenage boy...

Edited December 8 by old3bob

[Nungali]

Today's contribution is  .....

 

 

[Nungali]

'Project Habakkuk . '

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk

 

 

 

WEll its hard to blow up an ice burg .... torpedoes  and bombs just chip off exterior chunks , so ......

 

 

 

Edited December 10 by Nungali

[Nungali]

.....   I got a counter attack surprise for them  ;

 

 

[Taomeow]

On 12/9/2024 at 2:13 PM, Nungali said:

Today's contribution is  .....

 

 

 

That's exactly (well, almost exactly) what's happening here now, chiefly in New Jersey but they're being spotted elsewhere too (including here in CA, close to my neck-of-the-woods).  Massive unidentified crepuscular drone activity and no one knows what they are, but the Pentagon made an official statement yesterday asserting they know what they aren't.  They aren't our military, they aren't another country's, they aren't amateur hobbyists'.  End of story. 

The drones, per hundreds of nightly eyewitnesses, are huge -- the smallest ones are the size of an SUV, and a journalist (who is also president of some birdwatching club and is always looking up) described the one he saw over Montclair, NJ as the size of a two-car garage or a school bus or something on that scale.  Whether Jesus is involved is debatable, but according to the Pentagon which pretty much excluded all other possibilities (except maybe one more -- which I personally think might be the closest to the truth), in the absence of another explanation, the Jesus factor might be as feasible as any other.     

 

https://x.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1867131023827370350

Edited Thursday at 05:05 PM by Taomeow

[old3bob]

 

and an invisible one for Big-foot which is what they use to disappear in....

 

[Nungali]

Let's blame China .

 

They are weird enough to do that .   remember the 'strange seeds ' thing  (if you guys got that there ) .

 

However this might not be just 'strange ops' *   ... considering the targets  ....

 

 what comes next ?

 

 

or maybe they have them 'Elon Musk weapons neutralizers ' slung under them ?

 

* strange ops ; eg. Soviet Germany ; while you are at work, agents break into your apartment  , you normally keep 1 bottle of milk in fridge , so they put another two in there , maybe change the position of  your radio , turn your shirts inside out and rehang them in the wardrobe , put a plug in the sink and fill it ... and then leave .

Edited Thursday at 11:03 PM by Nungali

[Mark Foote]

6 hours ago, Taomeow said:

 

That's exactly (well, almost exactly) what's happening here now, chiefly in New Jersey but they're being spotted elsewhere too (including here in CA, close to my neck-of-the-woods).  Massive unidentified crepuscular drone activity and no one knows what they are, but the Pentagon made an official statement yesterday asserting they know what they aren't.  They aren't our military, they aren't another country's, they aren't amateur hobbyists'.  End of story. 

The drones, per hundreds of nightly eyewitnesses, are huge -- the smallest ones are the size of an SUV, and a journalist (who is also president of some birdwatching club and is always looking up) described the one he saw over Montclair, NJ as the size of a two-car garage or a school bus or something on that scale.  Whether Jesus is involved is debatable, but according to the Pentagon which pretty much excluded all other possibilities (except maybe one more -- which I personally think might be the closest to the truth), in the absence of another explanation, the Jesus factor might be as feasible as any other.     

 

https://x.com/JimFergusonUK/status/1867131023827370350

Nothing to see here, folks, move along.
 

 

 

 

[Nungali]

Nothing to see here ... just the birds .

 

 

 

 

 

" Swarm robotics is the study of how to design independent systems of robots without centralized control. The emerging swarming behavior of robotic swarms is created through the interactions between individual robots and the environment.^[1] This idea emerged on the field of artificial swarm intelligence, as well as the studies of insects, ants and other fields in nature, where swarm behavior occurs.^[2]

Relatively simple individual rules can produce a large set of complex swarm behaviors. A key component is the communication between the members of the group that build a system of constant feedback. The swarm behavior involves constant change of individuals in cooperation with others, as well as the behavior of the whole group. ... "

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_robotics

 

" The use of swarm drones was also done by the Israel Defense Forces to find the rocket launchers situated in Gaza City. "

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_drone

 

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Edited Friday at 05:29 AM by Nungali

[Sanity Check]

On 12/7/2024 at 12:21 PM, Taomeow said:

 

 Also sprach Taomeow.    

 

 

 

Stranger things:

 

The epic of gilgamesh suggests massive floods were necessary to reduce human overpopulation.

 

What would zarathustra think about this, I wonder.

[Taomeow]

8 hours ago, Sanity Check said:

 

 

Stranger things:

 

The epic of gilgamesh suggests massive floods were necessary to reduce human overpopulation.

 

 

I read the Epic of Gilgamesh several times over the years, but I don't remember it suggesting that.  Do you have the passage(s)?

 

8 hours ago, Sanity Check said:

 

What would zarathustra think about this, I wonder.

 

That one I read in my teens.  Never had the urge to re-read, so I don't know what Zarathustra (or rather Nietzsche) would think about it. Me, I thought the best part of the book was that "also sprach" bit which was the closing statement of every little chapter-parable, a lovely literary device, always inserted predictably and still unexpectedly as though a train of thought would suddenly come to a halt instead of dragging on and on (as it tends to in many philosophically slanted writings), a version of sapienti sat.  At the same time it added to this flair of solemn pomposity characteristic of the whole book, and I sometimes add it to my posts in a tongue-in-cheek manner if I suspect that I sound proselytizing or something in that post.   

 

Edited Friday at 02:36 PM by Taomeow

[Nungali]

16 hours ago, Sanity Check said:

 

 

Stranger things:

 

The epic of gilgamesh suggests massive floods were necessary to reduce human overpopulation.

 

What would zarathustra think about this, I wonder.

 

Zarathustra / Zaradhust / 'Zoroaster  probably didnt know about it .  At his time it seems they people of that area ( South central Asia ) didnt seem to know much of Mesopotamia .  It wasnt until after the close of the Avestan canon , the collapse of their society , a migration  north then west into the Zagros mountains then a south emergence into the coastal plain SE of the Mesopotamian delta , where the Assyrians identified them as 'Parsua' (later Persians )  emerging from the Zargos and joining in with the  groups there  like Elamites  to  fight against the Assyrian oppression in their lands .

 

But still ...

Not floods in the Avesta  but " A great cold is coming " , they where told the snow would be to a great depth and it would go for a long time . They had to build, not an ark against floods ' but a new type of shelter dug into the earth partially and take the livestock in there with feed and food storage    ( the animals sharing and generating warmth ) .    This 'cold snap ' seems to equate to something like the 'younger dryas' era or when  a couple of centuries back people where ice skating on The Thames in the 'big freeze'

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas

 

https://www.chr.org.uk/anddidthosefeet/february-12th-1895-the-great-freeze/

Edited Friday at 10:42 PM by Nungali

[Nungali]

Its not in Gilgamesh its in the Epic of Atra-Hasis .   People where too noisy and it annoyed the Gods so ......  flood .

[Taomeow]

Cats are strange.  Artists are also strange.  The best of both are incredible at tiny details that actually mean a lot if you observe very closely.  A twitch of a whisker, a stroke of a brush...      

 

Microscopic examination of the light reflecting in the left eye of Vermeer's famous Girl with a Pearl Earring reveals what it is exactly that's reflected there, illuminated by the light 

 

 

It's this exact sleeping position, only here the cat's head is on the left and the pearl girl's cat's on the right.  

 

[Taomeow]

One thing leads to another, and somehow I wound up on Youtube listening to Rasputin by Boney M.  A blast from the past.  One of the songs I used to ice skate to...  Then I got curious to read up on Boney M. on wiki and among other things discovered a strange fact.  Bobby Farrell, the male face of the band at the time, died on the same day (only 106 years later) and in the same city -- St.Petersburg, Russia -- as Grigori Rasputin.