MrCorinthian Posted August 31, 2023 Which seems teacher/s from my city seem more legit https://www.qigongrochester.com/ Or https://www.rtccc.com/ Or should I learn from both if possible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrCorinthian Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) How does one know they found a legit teacher locally or abroad? Edited September 21, 2023 by MrCorinthian 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MrCorinthian said: How does one know they found a legit teacher locally or abroad? That’s a very good question but a very difficult one to answer. I’d say, trust your intuition. And don’t go for one that’s taking too much of your money. Edited September 21, 2023 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrCorinthian Posted September 21, 2023 Ok, thank you for your reply. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) . Edited September 22, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted September 21, 2023 On 8/31/2023 at 10:52 AM, MrCorinthian said: Which seems teacher/s from my city seem more legit https://www.qigongrochester.com/ Or https://www.rtccc.com/ Or should I learn from both if possible? I am a Yang style Taiji practitioner for more than forty years. I do recognize that the latter is the Yang style and is legit. It will have the healing effect as the former, but I would strongly recommend to go with the latter. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted September 22, 2023 Try here too: https://rumsoakedfist.org/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=7b1bae6d1d269229103d538bab201a1a Let's not forget that IMA are complex Qigong forms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted September 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Cobie said: @Taoist Texts any thoughts to help the OP? glad you asked! The OP is a beginner so the both are fine really On 8/31/2023 at 9:52 PM, MrCorinthian said: more legit 10 hours ago, Gerard said: Let's not forget that IMA are complex Qigong forms. what were they before qigong was concocted in the commi china? Quote In 1949, Liu Guizhen established the name "Qigong" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taomeow Posted September 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Taoist Texts said: what were they before qigong was concocted in the commi china? It wasn't qiogng that was "concocted in the commi china," just the name. “What's in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other word would smell as sweet.” Hua Tuo (141-208 AD) called it animal movements -- tiger, deer, bear, monkey, crane. Li Shizhen (1518-1593 AD), "movements that establish the relationship with inner channels (or meridians) so that they can be perceived." But neither of them was a pioneer of what we call qigong. What's in a name? This chart that looks a helluva lot like qigong is from the 2nd century BC. 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taomeow said: “What's in a name? i know right? peeps always get at me like 'dude, you do not understand! its like apples and oranges' and i go come on, man,.. tomato tahmato... whats in a name man? seriously though yes the pics do look like modern qigong Quote https://gwongzaukungfu.com/en/daoyintu-and-mawangdui-texts/ the annotations that accompany the illustrations ... refer to the name of the exercise or its purpose. Some of the exercises imitate the spirit of certain animals such as the crane, the monkey, the mantis or the bear; why then i am saying that these exercises are not at all like modern qigong? because Quote magical incantations were a common therapeutic method https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wushi'er_Bingfang like magical, man...the spirit...i think you get my drift Edited September 22, 2023 by Taoist Texts 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Apech Posted September 22, 2023 On 31/08/2023 at 6:52 PM, MrCorinthian said: Which seems teacher/s from my city seem more legit https://www.qigongrochester.com/ Or https://www.rtccc.com/ Or should I learn from both if possible? Try them both and see how it goes. There’s no harm in window shopping before you commit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michael Sternbach Posted September 22, 2023 In other words, try before you buy! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Michael Sternbach said: In other words, try before you buy! It takes time like months before one can feel the effect. Nice try.🙃 Edited September 22, 2023 by ChiDragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted September 22, 2023 Don't know about legit but for seeing if a teacher is worthwhile, try a class or two. Find out the expense, class schedule, rules.. some history. Talk to the advanced students, see how they behave, their skills and attitude. If you join that's what you'll become. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted September 24, 2023 On 22/09/2023 at 9:23 PM, ChiDragon said: It takes time like months before one can feel the effect. Nice try.🙃 If it’s a good practice it would be less than months Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted September 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, Pak_Satrio said: If it’s a good practice it would be less than months Some might take longer than the other. The prime factor depends on the physical condition of the individual. Of course, practice must be done diligently. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted September 24, 2023 On 8/31/2023 at 10:52 AM, MrCorinthian said: should I learn from both if possible? If you see someone who practice Qigong with the arms and legs extended straight out, then stay away from the individual. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted September 24, 2023 Qi Gong. Work with the life force. Modern forms coming from the CCCP ---> buyer beware. Remember these people/new barbarians annihilated (tried to to some extent) a vast, ancient and wise civilisation. They removed anything traditional from their newly devised Qigong forms, including shortened versions of Tai Chi Chuan; eg. Beijing 24 simplified form Yang style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrCorinthian Posted September 27, 2023 Thank you all for replying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrCorinthian Posted September 27, 2023 On 9/24/2023 at 1:23 PM, ChiDragon said: If you see someone who practice Qigong with the arms and legs extended straight out, then stay away from the individual. Why is that? 😊 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrCorinthian said: Why is that? 😊 The muscles are at rest when the arms and legs are fully extended. Thus, it has no effect on the muscles. Biologically, the body cells are activated by the slight contraction of the muscles. The contraction of the muscle will cause the cells to produce an "action potential". An action potential is the energy that keeps the muscle to continue to contract. As soon the muscle releases, the action potential will be gone, and puts the muscle back into the resting state again. That is why one will see the Taiji practitioners with their arms and legs bent. Especially, the Yang style Taiji. It is the best style to practice for health. PS Keeping the muscle cells active is part of the cultivation of the body. Edited September 27, 2023 by ChiDragon 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites