Cobie Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) . Edited December 23, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) . Edited December 23, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) On 26/11/2023 at 9:54 PM, Taoist Texts said: … Confucianism is "Laoism" … Where do you see an overlap with Laoism? I thought the ethics were very different. Edited December 23, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted December 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Cobie said: Where do you see an overlap with Laoism? I thought the ethics were very different. 无为而成 without any effort, it accomplishes its ends.无为而物成，是天道也 making (all) things complete without doing anything - that is the way of Heaven. Quote Daoist ethics tends to emphasize various themes from the Daoist classics, such as naturalness (pu), spontaneity (ziran), simplicity, detachment from desires, and most important of all, wu wei. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) Wuwei in the DDJ https://ctext.org/dao-de-jing/ens?searchu=无为 Edited December 25, 2023 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 25, 2023 (edited) On 23/12/2023 at 9:20 AM, Taoist Texts said: 无为而成 without any effort, it accomplishes its ends.无为而物成，是天道也 making (all) things complete without doing anything - that is the way of Heaven. I find it hard to see a connection between these quotes, and the later Confucianism that imposes all kinds of restrictions. Just like there’s Laozi-ism vs later Taoism, would you say there’s also Confucianism vs later Confused-ianism? Edited December 25, 2023 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted December 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Cobie said: I find it hard to see a connection between these quotes, and the later Confucianism that imposes all kinds of restrictions. Just like there’s Laozi-ism vs later Taoism, would you say there’s also Confucianism vs later Confused-ianism? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted December 26, 2023 8 hours ago, Cobie said: I find it hard to see a connection between these quotes, and the later Confucianism that imposes all kinds of restrictions. Just like there’s Laozi-ism vs later Taoism, would you say there’s also Confucianism vs later Confused-ianism? no there is not. you see people think that wu-wei is some kind of happy-go-lucky pink unicorn idyll. but in the real world wu-wei is based on very tight restrictions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Way_of_the_Five_Pecks_of_Rice#Organization 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) . Edited January 7 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted December 26, 2023 Its a translation error .... should be ' eunuch horn '. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) . Edited January 7 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted December 26, 2023 No its family jewels that are 'euniched' ... the horn is left ..... and its pink . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maddie Posted December 26, 2023 Just now, Nungali said: No its family jewels that are 'euniched' ... the horn is left ..... and its pink . What on earth did I walk into? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted December 26, 2023 A harem .... apparently . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) . Edited January 29 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whocoulditbe? Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cobie said: If you had to suffer from any personality disorder, you'd prefer it to be the one with the same name as a flower. Edited December 27, 2023 by whocoulditbe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 27, 2023 11 hours ago, ChimpSage said: … The goal of alchemy is to shed all Yin … @Taoist Texts is this true? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted December 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Cobie said: @Taoist Texts is this true? a broken clock is right twice a day. yes there is such a phrase. of course those who parrot it have no clue what it means 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) @Taoist Texts what does it mean “The goal of alchemy is to shed all Yin”? Edited December 27, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted December 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Cobie said: @Taoist Texts what does it mean “The goal of alchemy is to shed all Yin”? can't tell you concretely because it is a technical secret but basically it means to join with the dao. in the process the yin is not shed, on the contrary it is gained. as usual the outsiders get the idea totally opposite to the real thing. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S:C Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) intriguing Edited December 27, 2023 by S:C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nintendao Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) sleep Edited December 28, 2023 by Nintendao 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S:C Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) my interpretations and judgements are quite possibly unsubstantiated. so… don’t mind me. (no pun intended.) Edited December 28, 2023 by S:C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nintendao Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) We're all bums when the wagon comes! Spoiler Edited December 28, 2023 by Nintendao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 27, 2023 (edited) . Edited January 7 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
