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[Keith108]

Just now, Cobie said:

 

That’s part of TDB’s rich tradition - all threads must go off-topic. 

 

 

I quite like it...kind of wu wei wu feel. The Buddhists in the forum I read are quite strict. 

[Keith108]

8 minutes ago, Cobie said:

 

 

‘mu’ derived from the Chinese 無

無 wu2 - (negates) no, not; without; nothing
 

imo:

 

A monk asked Jôshû, ‘Does a dog have Buddha nature or not?’ Jôshû said, ‘No’.

 

Yes, but if Joju actually meant "no", there would be no Zen!

 

To flesh it out a little, the Buddha taught all things have Buddha nature...but Joju said our poor dog didn't. Why did he say that? Thus appears the hwadu. Every koan has a question aspect to it. 

[Cobie]

 

6 minutes ago, Keith108 said:

… we do all have to find our own way. 

Exactly. 
 

[Cobie]

 

9 minutes ago, Keith108 said:

I quite like it...kind of wu wei wu feel. …

Exactly. 
 

 

 

[Cobie]

 

 

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the Buddha taught all things have Buddha nature...

 

That’s the Buddha’s opinion.

 

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 Joju said our poor dog didn't. Why did he say that?

 

Because that was his [Joju’s]  opinion. 

 

 

Edited Monday at 09:32 PM by Cobie

[Cobie]

4 minutes ago, Cobie said:

the Buddha taught all things have Buddha nature... That’s the Buddha’s opinion. …

Joju said our poor dog didn't. … that was [Joju] his opinion. 

imo:

 

it’s ziran, unknowable, so none of us knows. Each of us can choose what to believe. 
 

 

Edited Monday at 09:31 PM by Cobie

[Keith108]

4 minutes ago, Cobie said:

 

 

 

That’s the Buddha’s opinion.

 

 

Because that was his opinion. 
 

 

 

Thus ends the discussion. 😁

[Keith108]

3 minutes ago, Cobie said:

imo:

 

it’s ziran, unknowable, so none of us knows. Each of us can choose what to believe. 
 

 

It is knowable, through direct experience. But, that's just my opinion. ✌️

[Cobie]

Just now, Keith108 said:

… ends the discussion. 

is ‘nirvana’ achieved.

[Cobie]

Just now, Keith108 said:

… that's just my opinion. 

Exactly. 
 

 

[Keith108]

1 minute ago, Cobie said:

is ‘nirvana’ achieved.

Nah, just a stalemate, and a shake of hands. 👍

[Cobie]

3 minutes ago, Keith108 said:

… just a stalemate, and a shake of hands. 

For you it is such. Okidoki with me. 

 

Me, I remain at ‘nirvana’ achieved.

 

 

Edited Monday at 09:40 PM by Cobie

[Keith108]

9 minutes ago, Cobie said:

For you it is such. Okidoki with me. 

 

Me, I remain at ‘nirvana’ achieved.

 

 

I believe you. 🙏

[Cobie]

 

9 hours ago, Sinai said:

it was still okay my friend, shoot !

 

“Now that I no longer desire all, I have it all without desire.”

(John of the cross, The Dark Night of the Soul)

 

 

[Nungali]

'Have it ''   ? 

 

 Or  'are it '  ?