Jing

[Chang dao ling]

Hi, i have a question. in Taoist cultivation we refine Jing into chi. But i heard we die when our jing completely depleted. My doubt is in our cultivation we only refine small amount of jing? Please clarify 

[Gerard]

Time to go when Kidneys stop working since then no more Yin & Yang is created. Kidney is the true source of both energies.

 

You only refine post-natal jing that comes from food, air (breathing while meditating) and optimal environmental conditions (peaceful and relaxed vs busy and stressful life)

 

The original jing you are born with is your life battery. Once exhausted is time to go as well.

 

Basically nourishing the Kidney will promote good health and extend your life but it is not infinite. One day your physical life will cease to exist. 

 

 

[Chang dao ling]

5 minutes ago, Gerard said:

Time to go when Kidneys stop working since then no more Yin & Yang is created. Kidney is the true source of both energies.

 

You only refine post-natal jing that comes from food, air (breathing while meditating) and optimal environmental conditions (peaceful and relaxed vs busy and stressful life)

 

The original jing you are born with is your life battery. Once exhausted is time to go as well.

 

Basically nourishing the Kidney will promote good health and extend your life but it is not infinite. One day your physical life will cease to exist. 

 

 

Is there any difference between human jing and animals jing and immortals jing?

[damdao]

Immortals (it is said) are immortals because they have accomplished the fusion of xing (inner natur) and ming (life force) so, probabley there is a huge difference between them and humans, from the point of view of jing and shen too. 

Regarding the OP, it depends on what your discipline is (qigong, yangshen or neidan).

Post heaven jing depends on nourishment so every day you expends and generates it.  

Preheaven jing is another story but it is said that jing can be replenished.

[Chang dao ling]

14 hours ago, damdao said:

Immortals (it is said) are immortals because they have accomplished the fusion of xing (inner natur) and ming (life force) so, probabley there is a huge difference between them and humans, from the point of view of jing and shen too. 

Regarding the OP, it depends on what your discipline is (qigong, yangshen or neidan).

Post heaven jing depends on nourishment so every day you expends and generates it.  

Preheaven jing is another story but it is said that jing can be replenished.

What is post and pre heaven jing?

[exorcist_1699]

Different from post-natal jing , the pre-heavenly jing is outside of our body('天地至精' )  , everywhere , which  can also be  called as  the Mind of the Cosmic('天心')  because  at  the pre-heavenly  level ,  not yet embodied in the body ,  jing , qi and shen are  a trinity , unseparated ;  it is only  after a physical intercourse of a man and a woman  that the body is born and post-natal jing  then stored in people's  bodies , yet  its amount so limited  that it can only sustain a life of 125 years approximately .

 

Capable of retaining the post-natal jing and accumulate it  to a full extent will   start another intercourse, now a spiritual one between qi and shen  back to the higher plane , that lets  people open the gateway of accessing the limitless pre-heavenly  jing outside, therefore  makes the  breeding of  an everlasting life possible .

 

Transforming jing ( it sometime in the form of energy ,  sometime appears as some  physical  stuff)  into qi , then  reversing  it  upwards to nourish the  brain (' 還精補腦 ' )   is the first step of such an exploration .

Edited October 18, 2023 by exorcist_1699

[Chang dao ling]

1 hour ago, exorcist_1699 said:

Transforming jing ( it sometime in the form of energy ,  sometime appears as some  physical  stuff)  into qi , then  reversing  it  upwards to nourish the  brain (' 還精補腦 ' )   is the first step of such an exploratio

Are you taking about Micro cosmic orbit?

[exorcist_1699]

22 hours ago, Chang dao ling said:

Are you taking about Micro cosmic orbit?

 

Doing the Micro cosmic circulation does not necessarily mean people can nourish their brains with qi   as it really depends on the quality of the jing sublimated , embedded inside it . The following  can be viewed as  criteria to judge :

 

-how hot the qi they feel

-whether any bright dot/ball of light  appeared somewhere before them ?  (provided that imagination/visualization is not the way they adopt)

- any sex pleasure ?

- whether they then get a clear mind, one with good memory and understanding ability..etc

- sweet saliva overflows from mouth?

- ' beat ' of the perineum area?

 

If people get most of the above mentioned phenomena , then not only their brains nourished ;  that kind of qi really can be a powerful doze of medicine that cures most diseases , even severe ones .

Edited October 18, 2023 by exorcist_1699

[Chang dao ling]

1 hour ago, exorcist_1699 said:

 

Doing the Micro cosmic circulation does not necessarily mean people can nourish their brains with qi   as it really depends on the quality of the jing sublimated , embedded inside it . The following  can be viewed as  criteria to judge :

 

-how hot the qi they feel

-whether any bright dot/ball appeared somewhere before them ?  (provided that imagination/visualization is not the way they adopt)

- any sex pleasure ?

- whether they then get a clear mind, one with good memory and understanding ability..etc

- sweet saliva overflows from mouth?

- ' beat ' of the perineum area?

 

If people get most of the above mentioned phenomena , then not only their brains nourished ;  that kind of qi really can be a powerful doze of medicine that cures many diseases .

Wow . Very nice information sir. Thanks