Nuralshamal Posted October 22, 2023 Dear Dao Bums, My post will be in 5 parts:1) Intro to General Framework of Hindu Sadhana 2) Hierarchy of Beings 3) My Own Lifelong Orientation Towards Sadhana Being Challenged4) Yakshini Experiences 5) Questions for You 1) Intro to General Framework of Hindu Sadhana In tantric Hindu sadhana, you connect with higher beings outside yourself in order to develop yourself step by step, until you also become a higher being. This is done using the 5 elements: Mantra Japa (space/energy element, throat chakra), Puja / Prayer Ritual (all 5 elements, focus on air element, heart chakra) Fire Ritual / Havan (fire element, navel chakra) Tarpanam & Marjanam / Water & Butter Ritual (water element, genital chakra) Bhojanam / Feeding people (Earth element). In each tantra, different combinations of the 5 elements and specific ways of using them are prescribed in order to connect with a higher being.2) Hierarchy of Beings There is a hierarchy of beings from low to high. The higher the being, the more difficult it is to connect with it. The lower the being, the easier it is to connect with. However, higher beings are more spiritually evolved and therefore more benign in nature. Lower beings are less spiritually evolved. They can still be extremely powerful, but their nature is more malevolent. The hierarchy is something like (more or less):Deva / Devi (Devata) - literally light being, normally called Gods & GodessesGandharva - bird-person, associated with musicApsara - celestial beauty, associated with sensuality, sexuality, attraction & beauty, sometimes dance Naga - snake people, often teach yogis meditation & spiritualityYakshini - female nature spirits, often protecting the treaures of the Earth Atma/Soul of Deceased Human Beings (people like you and I who are passed away)Bhuta - restless souls of deceased human beingsPreta - hungry ghosts, souls of deceased people even more disturbed than bhutasPisach - flesh eating demons, evil 3) My Own Lifelong Orientation Towards Sadhana Being Challenged My entire life I approached spiritual practice as a means of religious/spiritual liberation/salvation, in this life and the next. This would be called Fana Fi Allah in sufism, Moksha in Hinduism, Nirvana in Buddhism, Salvation in Christianity, Ren-Tien-He-Yi in Daoism etc. Of course each might differ slightly in how they define their "ideal end state", but my goal was always to reach the "ideal end state" proposed by religion/spirituality. However, as you know, this takes a long time, it can even take several life times! In the past couple of years I've been confronted by the fact that many people never care about this ultimate goal, they just quickly want either spiritual powers or material success, and use spiritual/tantric means to acquire that. And they actually succeed! This made me realize the intelligence of Hinduisms 4 goals of life: dharma, artha, kama, moksha. It's much easier to pursue the ultimate goal when your material life & wealth is settled, as is your needs for love and pleasure. It's like you're building on top of a stable foundation. So this idea made me more open to consider adding this as temporary "side projects" on my spiritual journey, of course never stopping the daily effort towards the ultimate goal.4) Yakshini Experiences Lately one of my family members got yakshini mantra diksha for acquiring wealth. They even said on the course "this is nothing about spiritual advancement, this is only focusing on acquiring material wealth as soon as possible through tantric means". A remark I would have considered blasphemous just a few months back! As part of the program my family member got yakshini diksha, and related to me that the yakshini energy is extremely different and noticeably distinct from devata energy. This person has performed decades & decades of serious hindu sadhana for reaching the ultimate goal, so they have a lot of experience. Quite literally my family member said "it feels very active, very dynamic, very powerful & emotional, but also quite volatile. It feels closer to a human being. It's full of love, lust, energy, vitality & passion, but it also has anger & jealousy in it". Compared to what he describes as devata energy "settled, balanced, peaceful, benign, loving, accepting, Divine". Hearing this experience made me wonder and become curious about the validity & power of sadhana on beings lower than Devata in order to obtain quicker results in particular matters. Then I read the Uddamareshvara Tantra about the sadhana & siddhi of 36 yakshinis. The required sadhanas are extremely easy compared to the serious hindu sadhana I've completed daily for 10.5 years now (mantra japa, mantra chanting with a rosary, as well as innumerable rituals for all 5 elements). Yakshini Sulochana & Kapalini can give the siddhi of astral travel & lucid dreaming with as little as 30.000 & 20.000 (respectively) mantra chants, ending with a fire ritual (havan). This really allured me, because that is an extremely small & easy thing to accomplish compared to what I've completed over the last decade. But something inside me is still holding back, because of the "fear" of worshipping something less than "the highest" and the fear of "going down the wrong track" on my spiritual journey. Hence some questions for you!5) Questions for You What have you heard about yakshini sadhana? What have you experienced from yakshini sadhana? All the best! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang dao ling Posted October 23, 2023 18 hours ago, Nuralshamal said: But something inside me is still holding back, because of the "fear" of worshipping something less than "the highest" and the fear of "going down the wrong track" on my spiritual journey According to li honzi ( founder of falun gong) every person has a passing immortal who can influence your thoughts. If the immortal think the person is worthy than he becomes his gaurdian immortal who influences you on the right path until you become an enlightened being. I believe the" fear" you mentioned due to the influence Of this immortal. I think you should read this book " Zhuan falun" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuralshamal Posted October 24, 2023 22 hours ago, Chang dao ling said: According to li honzi ( founder of falun gong) every person has a passing immortal who can influence your thoughts. If the immortal think the person is worthy than he becomes his gaurdian immortal who influences you on the right path until you become an enlightened being. I believe the" fear" you mentioned due to the influence Of this immortal. I think you should read this book " Zhuan falun" Thanks for your very interesting viewpoint! I'll keep that in mind 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuralshamal Posted October 24, 2023 I just watched a youtube lecture from Sri Ravi Shankar (a famous indian Guru), who describes this hierarchy of beings depicted below 1 unit of energy: stone 2: water 3: fire 4: wind 5: space 6: trees 7: animals 8: normal human being 9: genius human being, extraordinary, affecting the whole world through great works 10: ancestors in spirit form 11: kinnara (political spirit, working socially & politically in the world) 12: gandharva (music spirit, brings joy to the people, but individual musician will be miserable) 13: yaksha & yakshini (wealth spirit, brings immense wealth, but the wealthy person will suffer problems with their progeny) 14: devata (devis & devas, gods & goddesses, bring happines, peace & compassion) 16: siddhas (perfected & enlightened human beings) So, from his perspective a yaksha & yakshini are just one unit below the benevolent devas. Further, people blessed by kinnaras, gandharvas & yakshas can mitigate the problem/downside caused by this being through having a guru and following a spiritual path. According to him then, it shouldn't be that dangerous to do yakshini sadhana as long as you're also on a normal spiritual path for ultimate salvation. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang dao ling Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Nuralshamal said: I just watched a youtube lecture from Sri Ravi Shankar (a famous indian Guru), who describes this hierarchy of beings depicted below 1 unit of energy: stone 2: water 3: fire 4: wind 5: space 6: trees 7: animals 8: normal human being 9: genius human being, extraordinary, affecting the whole world through great works 10: ancestors in spirit form 11: kinnara (political spirit, working socially & politically in the world) 12: gandharva (music spirit, brings joy to the people, but individual musician will be miserable) 13: yaksha & yakshini (wealth spirit, brings immense wealth, but the wealthy person will suffer problems with their progeny) 14: devata (devis & devas, gods & goddesses, bring happines, peace & compassion) 16: siddhas (perfected & enlightened human beings) So, from his perspective a yaksha & yakshini are just one unit below the benevolent devas. Further, people blessed by kinnaras, gandharvas & yakshas can mitigate the problem/downside caused by this being through having a guru and following a spiritual path. According to him then, it shouldn't be that dangerous to do yakshini sadhana as long as you're also on a normal spiritual path for ultimate salvation. Wow nice. What is the name of the YouTube video Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuralshamal Posted October 24, 2023 47 minutes ago, Chang dao ling said: Wow nice. What is the name of the YouTube video 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chang dao ling Posted October 25, 2023 13 hours ago, Nuralshamal said: Nice video thanks for sharing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nuralshamal Posted October 11 (edited) Update I've since this post explored more regarding yakshini sadhana. I will say that if you get diksha from a true guru or gurvi, and you follow the guru's instructions, there's no danger involved in yakshini sadhana whatsoever. As long as your intention is pure, of course, as well as your general energy and the way you live your life. Further, I will update and correct what I said about how easy it is to get siddhi. I've managed to read very small bits of Udameshvara Tantra, and the general mantras and prescriptions for yakshini sadhana found online are NOT the ones given in Udameshvara Tantra, even if the online page list this Tantra as source. For instance in the case of Kapalini Yakshini, you will actually need a guru to get you a Kapal, the actual skull of a deceased Human Being. I nearly fell from my chair when the Indian-based guru I spoke to suggested this to me. Further, the Kapal Siddhi Kapalini Yakshini gives is not just lucid dreaming, it transforms the Human Skull to a kind of portal to other worlds - you can communicate with deceased people, you can contact yogis, you can reach any astral being and you can also see the past and future. Regarding Sulochana Yakshini, you need to wear red and say 300.000 mantras on a river bank, only after completing that will you offer the 30.000 mantras into the fire (also on the river bank). Then she will present you with Paduka Siddhi or Seven League Boots, that will allow you to traverse the Akash, aka astral travel. Plus the mantra itself is different from what you can find online. Two pics of Sulochana Yakshini, wearing red, 2 arms, one holding a red rose for love, health, energy and vitality, and one holding the golden padukas (in some versions these carry wings, like Hermes in Disney's Hercules movie). The other pic there are 6 yakshinis present in the background and herself in the foreground, symbolizing that she energizes all 7 chakras in your astral body. Edited October 11 by Nuralshamal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites