Bible Prophecies regarding current era China

[Sanity Check]

There is more than one prophecy in the christian bible.

 

Which might predict the fate and future of current era china.

 

I won't explicitly name them.

 

The information is out there & everyone should know what the prophecies say by this point in time.

 

Does anyone want to share their opinion on the topic?

 

I would be curious to know what people think on this.

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[Cobie]

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[SirPalomides]

I mean, there's the explicit Bible prophecy that Christ would return within the generation of the apostles. Naturally when that didn't happen it was reinterpreted, e.g. "by 'this generation' he means the church". The text is full of enough ambiguities and suggestive images that it is possible to map pretty much any world event onto some scrap of text. And the people who are really good at this are well-practiced enough in esoteric hermeneutics to spin any failed prediction as some deeper insight. And so people have been doing for centuries. 

[Sanity Check]

Biblical prophecies which might involve china are a topic I have seen spammed across the internet since maybe 2018.

 

There are many youtube clips and articles written about it, I have seen.

 

The interesting thing is, its not so easy to find these prophecies with a search engine.

 

There are prophecies about the eurphrates river but the ones I'm referring to are different.

 

I was curious to know if anyone knew of them. As they could shed light on a long list of things that would be mind blowing.

 

But at the same time, I don't think its right for me to come out and say what they are in an explicit sense.

 

As it might be somewhat rude.

 

The bible may also contain prophecy and prediction about the future of yin / yang cultivation - inner alchemy and similar practice. Depending on how its interpreted.

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[SirPalomides]

 

14 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

Depending on how its interpreted.

 

If I put my mind to it I could give you a systematic exposition of how the Bible predicted the Juggalos. 

[Maddie]

7 minutes ago, SirPalomides said:

 

 

If I put my mind to it I could give you a systematic exposition of how the Bible predicted the Juggalos. 

 

Are you saying that when something is written in very vague metaphysical terminology that it makes it somewhat easy to retroactively interpret multiple events to "fulfil" the "prophecy"?   

[Sanity Check]

1 hour ago, Maddie said:

 

Are you saying that when something is written in very vague metaphysical terminology that it makes it somewhat easy to retroactively interpret multiple events to "fulfil" the "prophecy"?   

 

 

It could help to know that the bible encourages faith and truth seeking.

 

They are fundamental principles behind Noah building an Ark to escape a prophesized flood.

 

The bible is similar to MMA in that eventually all of the talk is put to rest and people are left to contend with facts and reality.

 

Which could explain why most fans and athletes involved in MMA are christians.

 

While atheists trend towards hating and despising MMA.

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[Maddie]

2 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

 

 

It could help to know that the bible encourages faith and truth seeking.

 

They are fundamental principles behind Noah building an Ark to escape a prophesized flood.

 

The bible is similar to MMA in that eventually all of the talk is put to rest and people are left to contend with facts and reality.

 

Which could explain why most fans and athletes involved in MMA are christians.

 

While atheists trend towards hating and despising MMA.

 

I'm an atheist that likes MMA lol. 

 

Perhaps the reason most MMA athletes are Christians in the United States is because that is the majority religion in the United States and it makes sense demographically? 

[Sanity Check]

10 minutes ago, Maddie said:

 

I'm an atheist that likes MMA lol. 

 

Perhaps the reason most MMA athletes are Christians in the United States is because that is the majority religion in the United States and it makes sense demographically? 

 

 

Atheists are fond of saying they believe in nothing without proof.

 

If they don't have empirical proof that they can be successful in MMA they don't try.

 

Christians being more prone towards believing in things they can't prove, makes them more likely to pursue a career in sports.

 

And also that belief and faith in themselves under circumstances that are non deterministic can be an advantage which atheists lack.

[SirPalomides]

18 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

 

 

It could help to know that the bible encourages faith and truth seeking.

 

They are fundamental principles behind Noah building an Ark to escape a prophesized flood.

 

The bible is similar to MMA in that eventually all of the talk is put to rest and people are left to contend with facts and reality.

 

Which could explain why most fans and athletes involved in MMA are christians.

 

While atheists trend towards hating and despising MMA.

 

I too evaluate the claims of a religion based on the number of adherents who are bloodsport enthusiasts. 

[Maddie]

1 minute ago, Sanity Check said:

 

 

Atheists are fond of saying they believe in nothing without proof.

 

If they don't have empirical proof that they can be successful in MMA they don't try.

 

Christians being more prone towards believing in things they can't prove, makes them more likely to pursue a career in sports.

 

And also that belief and faith in themselves under circumstances that are non deterministic can be an advantage which atheists lack.

 

Do you have a source for that, or is it just your opinion? 

[SirPalomides]

1 hour ago, Maddie said:

 

Are you saying that when something is written in very vague metaphysical terminology that it makes it somewhat easy to retroactively interpret multiple events to "fulfil" the "prophecy"?   

 

Far be it from me to suggest such impiety. No, what I'm saying is that the whole of the Old and New Testaments point us toward one final revelation: ICP's epoch defining video for "Miracles." 

 

 

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[Sanity Check]

15 minutes ago, Maddie said:

 

Do you have a source for that, or is it just your opinion? 

 

 

Its the observed precedent in terms of history.

 

Christians favor competition. They have faith God will give them the strength to compete. This is why christians are fans not only of MMA but also things like capitalism which reinforce market competition.

 

Atheists by contrast favor non competition. They don't like the idea of competing against others in sports, business or elsewhere. This is their motive for being the biggest supporters of trends like socialism which take from those best at competing to give rewards to those who are least competitive. 

 

 

[Maddie]

Just now, Sanity Check said:

 

 

Its the observed precedent in terms of history.

 

Christians favor competition. They have faith God will give them the strength to compete. This is why christians are fans not only of MMA but also things like capitalism which reinforce market competition.

 

Atheists by contrast favor non competition. They don't like the idea of competing against others in sports, business or elsewhere. This is their motive for being the biggest supporters of trends like socialism which take from those best at competing to give rewards to those who are least competitive. 

 

 

 

So your opinion lol

[Sanity Check]

2 minutes ago, Maddie said:

 

So your opinion lol

 

 

The scientific approach would be to propose a better explanation than the one I offered for observed historical trends like christians being mma fans/capitalists while atheists trend towards mma haters/socialism.

 

But sure, if you like that better, why not.

[Maddie]

1 minute ago, Sanity Check said:

 

 

The scientific approach would be to propose a better explanation than the one I offered for observed historical trends like christians being mma fans/capitalists while atheists trend towards mma haters/socialism.

 

But sure, if you like that better, why not.

 

The scientific approach would to do a study and to see if what you claimed was indeed the case.

 

It has nothing to do with what I like, it is indeed your opinion, which you are absolutely entitled to. 

[SirPalomides]

25 minutes ago, Sanity Check said:

 

Christians favor competition. They have faith God will give them the strength to compete. This is why christians are fans not only of MMA but also things like capitalism which reinforce market competition.

 

Odd thing to say. Maybe the one consistent economic teaching of Christianity, from the Old Testament through the church fathers, east and west, and from there to the reformation era, is the condemnation of lending at interest, AKA usury. No usury, no capitalism. 

 

Of course this is one more topic where today's McChristianity has no relationship to any recognizable Christian tradition. 

[Maddie]

3 minutes ago, SirPalomides said:

Of course this is one more topic where today's McChristianity has no relationship to any recognizable Christian tradition. 

 

You mean Jesus and the apostles didn't teach that mega church pastors should live in multimillion dollar mansions and have private jets? 

[Sanity Check]

6 minutes ago, SirPalomides said:

 

Odd thing to say. Maybe the one consistent economic teaching of Christianity, from the Old Testament through the church fathers, east and west, and from there to the reformation era, is the condemnation of lending at interest, AKA usury. No usury, no capitalism. 

 

Of course this is one more topic where today's McChristianity has no relationship to any recognizable Christian tradition. 

 

 

You are referring to christian ideology relating to money lenders and the banking industry.

 

Islam contains similar ideology:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking_and_finance

 

Long story short, usury applies to topics like the repeal of glass steagall, commercial and investment banking. Fractional reserve banking. Which applies to things like the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis and derivative banking. (All of which are topics atheists discourage me from discussing)

 

While christianity does contain restrictions on banking, it isn't opposed to capitalism or free markets.

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[Maddie]

1 minute ago, Sanity Check said:

Christianity isn't opposed to capitalism or free markets.

 

It's also not opposed to socialism 

 

Acts 2:44-45 King James Version (KJV)And all that believed were together, and had all things common; and sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

[SirPalomides]

No, usury in the classic Christian sense refers to any lending at interest. There is no distinction between excessive and reasonable interest, it’s all predatory. Christianity didn’t oppose capitalism because it didn’t exist in the 1st century. But it did consistently condemn usury. No usury, no capitalism. 

[Sanity Check]

Just now, Maddie said:

 

It's also not opposed to socialism 

 

Acts 2:44-45 King James Version (KJV)And all that believed were together, and had all things common; and sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

 

 

When has modern socialism distributed collected capital and goods equally?

 

 

[Sanity Check]

1 minute ago, SirPalomides said:

No, usury in the classic Christian sense refers to any lending at interest. There is no distinction between excessive and reasonable interest, it’s all predatory. Christianity didn’t oppose capitalism because it didn’t exist in the 1st century. But it did consistently condemn usury. No usury, no capitalism. 

 

 

"Capitalism didn't exist in the 1st century."

 

Trading a goat for 5 chickens is capitalism, bro.

 

 

[SirPalomides]

Then even “socialist” economies are capitalist. No, trading stuff is not capitalism.