Narayana Posted December 21, 2023 Hi, I am narayana I am from India. I am interested in Taoist meditation. Nice to meet you all. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted December 26, 2023 Welcome to the forum! 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 26, 2023 Hi. Welcome to the forum. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 26, 2023 On 12/21/2023 at 1:44 AM, Narayana said: Hi, I am narayana I am from India. I am interested in Taoist meditation. Nice to meet you all. Welcome! Why can you not follow Buddhist meditation? They should be the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) On 27/12/2023 at 12:54 AM, ChiDragon said: … Why can you not follow Buddhist meditation? … Narayana is from India. Only about 0.7% of the total population of India is Buddhist. About 80% is Hindu, and about 14% Islam. Edited December 28, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/26/2023 at 3:54 PM, ChiDragon said: Welcome! Why can you not follow Buddhist meditation? They should be the same. 47 minutes ago, Cobie said: Narayana is from India. Only about 0.7% of the total population of India is Buddhist. About 80% is Hindu, and about 14% Islam. What I am saying was that we all breathe the same way. It doesn't matter who we are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ChiDragon said: … we all breathe the same way. It doesn't matter who we are. Obviously. So why ask OP about Buddhist meditation instead of the Taoist meditation, as they should be the same??? Edited December 28, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Cobie said: Obviously. So why ask him about Buddhist meditation instead of the Taoist meditation? My point is if he did the Buddhist meditation, then, he had already done the same as the Taoist meditation. What he wants is readily available, then, why should he be asking for something else. Edited December 28, 2023 by ChiDragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: … if he did the Buddhist meditation OP did not say they did any Buddhist meditation. Quote … What he wants is readily available Really? OP lives In India, that’s 99.3% non-Buddhist. Edited December 28, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: My point is IF he did the Buddhist meditation, then, he had already done the same as the Taoist meditation. What he wants is readily available, then, why should he be asking for something else. 3 minutes ago, Cobie said: OP did not say he did any Buddhist meditation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, ChiDragon said: … IF he did the Buddhist meditation … Now why would you assume the OP did Buddhist meditation? I repeat India is 99.7% non-Buddhist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Cobie said: Really? OP lives In India, that’s 99.3% non-Buddhist. Should he go to China then. Other than seeking it within India? He could have done yoga breathing. Edited December 28, 2023 by ChiDragon 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cobie said: Now why would you assume the OP did Buddhist meditation? I repeat India is 99.7% non-Buddhist. Don't you know what IF mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: Should he go to China then. Other than seeking it within India? What makes you assume Buddhist meditation is more readily available to OP than Taoist meditation? I repeat India is 99.7% non-Buddhist. Edited December 28, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, ChiDragon said: Don't you know what IF mean? My question was, why would you assume the OP did Buddhist meditation? I repeat India is 99.7% non-Buddhist. Edited December 28, 2023 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Cobie said: What makes you assume Buddhist meditation is more readily available to OP than Taoist meditation? I don't think people in India ever practiced Taoism. There would be a greater chance to find a Buddhist in India. I think! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted December 28, 2023 Ah it’s not a proper TDB welcome without an argument in the comments section! 1 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, ChiDragon said: I don't think people in India ever practiced Taoism. There would be a greater chance to find a Buddhist in India. I think! Really? It’s a huge country. And with only 0.7% being Buddhist, there might not be any Buddhist centre near to OP. Anyway, I guess you actually meant to inform @Narayana that Taoist meditation is identical to Buddhist meditation. The whole Bodidharma story I guess. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Pak_Satrio said: Ah it’s not a proper TDB welcome without an argument in the comments section! Poor OP must be thinking, ‘not very helpful up to now!’ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) On 28/12/2023 at 10:46 PM, ChiDragon said: Should he go to China then. Other than seeking it within India? He could have done yoga breathing. Oh, you cheated, you changed it way after I responded to it. Edited January 3 by Cobie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted December 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, ChiDragon said: … He could have done yoga breathing. Is “yoga breathing” the same as Buddhist/Taoist meditation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, Cobie said: Is “yoga breathing” the same as Buddhist/Taoist meditation? If you believe that Qigong is about breathing, yes. Somehow, I had an impression that when Dharma went to China, he introduced Yoga to the Shaolin monks. It seems that Qigong is the derivative of Yoga. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bhathen Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, ChiDragon said: Qigong is the derivative of Yoga. It might be that Qigong is related more to Kalari / Kalaripayattu (Defence aspect of the art) and Acupressure has some similarities with Varma or Marma.(Medical aspect of the art). Edited December 29, 2023 by Bhathen Corrected my mistake from acupuncture to acupressure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiDragon Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bhathen said: It might be that Qigong is related more to Kalari / Kalaripayattu (Defence aspect of the art) and Acupuncture has some similarities with Varma or Marma.(Medical aspect of the art). Based on what I have read the definitions online, I disagree with the former but agree with the latter. The latter is more like acupressure. Edited December 29, 2023 by ChiDragon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thelerner Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) When it comes to meditation- Taoist, Buddhist, etc.. the most important thing is focus. Staying focused and not getting thrown off track, caught up in trivialities or ego. Edited December 29, 2023 by thelerner 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites