LDT Breathing techniques

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4 hours ago, Chang dao ling said:

I heard reverse breathing fill chi in lower dantian very quickly and activate lower dantian 

Stick with regular breathing. Do reverse when you learn later practices that require it. Don’t try to be clever and find shortcuts. 

[Chang dao ling]

13 minutes ago, Pak_Satrio said:

Stick with regular breathing. Do reverse when you learn later practices that require it. Don’t try to be clever and find shortcuts. 

I am practicing regular breathing. But my friend is practicing reverse breathing ( by the way he practice hata yoga not neidan) he said the reverse breathing awaken manipura chakra ( navel chakra). What's your opinion?

[Master Logray]

If there is no going to be a teacher for you, it is better to do as little as possible i.e. do not temper with breathing at all unless you have obvious breathing problem now. 

[Sahaja]

Reverse breathing is a doorway into the microcosmic orbit. Need to have prepared things but when it’s ready the orbit will arise through the du and ren without need to drive it with the yi. It will cycle on its own once started. 

You need to choose and to follow  a specific process that someone has done before you to get anywhere. You need to have some feedback from someone experienced on that process to stay on course and progress on your chosen process. trial and error to find the specific process and teacher that works for one is fine but it is not the process. 
 

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7 hours ago, Chang dao ling said:

I am practicing regular breathing. But my friend is practicing reverse breathing ( by the way he practice hata yoga not neidan) he said the reverse breathing awaken manipura chakra ( navel chakra). What's your opinion?

My opinion is that if you want to follow a system, commit to it and do the practices how they are taught. Do not take advice from people that aren’t doing your system, and definitely do not take advice from someone doing something completely unrelated like hata yoga.

[MBZ]

On 1/4/2024 at 2:02 PM, f-man said:

 

I am not the most crystal clear communicator on this planet.... 

Haha nor am I! 

[Chang dao ling]

10 hours ago, Pak_Satrio said:

My opinion is that if you want to follow a system, commit to it and do the practices how they are taught. Do not take advice from people that aren’t doing your system, and definitely do not take advice from someone doing something completely unrelated like hata yoga.

Thanks really liked your advice 

[ChiDragon]

On 1/1/2024 at 7:10 AM, Chang dao ling said:

Hi, which is the best breathing method to fill lower dantian? 

Natural abdominal breathing or riverse abdominal breathing? Which is safe to practice without a teacher?

The question being asked in the OP indicates that the author did not breathe down to the lower dantian. The normal condition is to breathe down to the LDT. Otherwise, people will have health problem was caused by a breathing problem.

Our respiratory system breathes the same way. Actually, the best way is learn to breathe down to the LDT. The first thing for a martial artist is to train to breathe to the LDT. Whatever the practice was, eventually, the breathing will kick in and bring the  breath to the LDT. Whether you like it or not. You don't really need special instructions. You just need to practice the art style diligently, you will get there.

[ChiDragon]

On 1/4/2024 at 6:34 PM, Maddie said:

 

So then what exactly is the purpose of LDT breathing exactly?

It helps you to breathe better for a healthier life and longevity.

[Thrice Daily]

Is this for when you are practicing stillness meditation or moving meditation like Tai-Chi? In both cases, without a teacher I'd just try to rest your attention there, relax it, but only allow natural breath, so no forcing big exhales or inhales, if anything maybe breathe out a little more than usual relaxedly. The rest will take care of itself.

 

If you are doing a moving practice like a qigong set, a good beginner focus is on the palms of the hands while you complete the movements. Whatever you are doing it's more important that you have consistency in building regular and sustainable practice. Technique can be layered on over time, increasing depth and intensity of breath gradually over time...

 

Final point, if you take up jogging or weight training, and workout to any level of reasonable intensity you are going to notice a deepening of breath and a strengthening of the muscles supporting your LDT and legs. Again the breath will take care of itself mostly, especially after a difficult set.