Nathan Brine

[Vajra Fist]

Looked into Nathan Brine. I read his book with interest. Seems like a decent chap.

 

Sadly his course fees amount to $2,750, which is a bit of a punt for an old miser like me.

[Taoist Texts]

32 minutes ago, Vajra Fist said:

Sadly his course fees amount to $2,750,

ah  how the mighty have fallen. When the neidan market was in full swing they claimed that you have to make a pilgrimage, swear a blood oath, get a magical lineage oral secret heart transmission through personal touch face to face...but when the market dried up suddenly a boiler-plate video  is just fine  makes you wonder

[liminal_luke]

3 hours ago, Taomeow said:

  I wish I knew what it means.  I have several theories, but no definitive proof of anything...  

 

I can´t say what an abundance of synchronicities mean either but it strikes me as a very good sign.  An alignment of inner and outer realities such that fluctuations are perceived as a smooth unified force, an edgeless flowing between the conventional you that lives inside your skin and the you that is as big as the universe?

 

Seems to me that synchronicities are a prerequisite for creating positive change in the world.  Most people try to change things by focusing on something outside of themselves.  This method lacks oomph.  It´s like a beginner at tai chi waving her arms around without an integrous connection through the body.  Another sneakier way is to make the change on the inside and let it ripple out into the world synchronicity style.  This is obviously an advanced method but I reckon it works better, especially for stopping hurricanes. 

Edited April 23, 2024 by liminal_luke

[silent thunder]

7 hours ago, snowymountains said:

 

As it's something that's impossible to prove and at the same time impossible disprove, it's like the universe is trolling us...

 

I ignore them because what is one to make out of them, fry their brain if it was a synchrinicity? Impossible to answer.

 

And let's say, for the sake of the argument, there even was a way to tell in retrospect.

Then what? What is one supposed to do with their next dream, assume it has predictive value and act on it? They're bound to be disappointed after 1-2-3 dreams.

Hence I ignore the cosmic trolling

[Forestgreen]

On 2024-04-22 at 8:45 PM, Taomeow said:

 

and then how to increase mobility of the organs themselves.  He asserted it's a modern, and abnormal, thing for internal organs to be "stuck" and "glued," 

Bruce Frantzis teaches how to do this as well.

[Neirong]

On 24.04.2024 at 6:42 AM, Forestgreen said:

Bruce Frantzis teaches how to do this as well.

We had one student come from Frantzis, it was a truly horrific experience.

Frantzis is not only a scammer, who made himself on fake fajin demonstrations, and teaching bullshido. He looks to be a victim of modern american diet.
 

Spoiler

 

 

[Taomeow]

6 hours ago, Neirong said:

 He looks to be a victim of modern american diet.
 

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Actually he doesn't.  American diet belly hangs low and flabby.  Frantzis's belly sits high and tight, balloon style.  It's a different kind of belly altogether.  

 

 

[oak]

As much as we don't like what Frantzis became only hypocrites will deny the debt they have towards him.

Just my assertive humble opinion.

[Nintendao]

Anyone know a source for this term "mouse moving under skin" that Nathan describes here with regards to the pill moving along the orbit?

 

i noticed TT mention something possibly related:

On 4/22/2024 at 1:34 PM, Taoist Texts said:

interestingly 'hitting with the liver' is mentioned in my authoritative sources on Xingyiquan, so what you related is doable, I have no doubts about that. My take it that the lump travelling under the skin was not the liver itself, but a lump  of the liver qi travelling along the liver meridian.

 

[silent thunder]

Several of Master Wang's students describe this experience.

[Taoist Texts]

9 hours ago, Nintendao said:

Anyone know a source for this term "mouse moving under skin"

muscle
Origin

late Middle English: from French, from Latin musculus, diminutive of mus ‘mouse’ (some muscles being thought to be mouse-like in form).

48 minutes ago, silent thunder said:

Several of Master Wang's students describe this experience.

If only the scientists invented a small popular handheld device with the ability to capture and disseminate moving pictures. .. well maybe someday...

[Taomeow]

4 hours ago, Taoist Texts said:

 

If only the scientists invented a small popular handheld device with the ability to capture and disseminate moving pictures. .. well maybe someday...

 

Why would a smart person -- scientists are smart, right? -- invest time and effort into studying live bodies when all of their training and expertise has been obtained via studying dead bodies?..  No one is that foolish.  They didn't spend countless dedicated hours dissecting corpses, looking at slides of dead tissues under the microscope, learning everything there is to learn about dead blood in a test tube, electrostimulating pieces of dead muscles to find out how they work, etc., toward forgetting all of that hard work and all of their expertise gained thereby.  Their expertise in the functioning of live bodies is gained by extrapolating everything they learned from dead bodies.  If they were to observe something unusual about a body that is actually alive yet does something dead bodies don't do -- something their curriculum doesn't include -- where would they go from there?  Into peer sneer territory, in the best case scenario.  Don't underestimate scientists, they know what's good for them.          

[silent thunder]

@Taomeow

[Nintendao]

On 6/12/2024 at 9:42 AM, Taoist Texts said:

muscle
Origin

late Middle English: from French, from Latin musculus, diminutive of mus ‘mouse’ (some muscles being thought to be mouse-like in form).

If only the scientists invented a small popular handheld device with the ability to capture and disseminate moving pictures. .. well maybe someday...

 

Only one video comes to mind where I have seen something at least resembling this elusive mouse. Much as i hesitate to post this gem yet again. The few seconds of interest at the moment are at 4:17.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Looks more vascular than muscular. It's not traveling around though. Pretty neat.

 

[tommyprotramp]

On 4/19/2024 at 8:57 PM, Taoist Texts said:

of course you did , and you were. Thank you very much. Who can forget the curious case of the travelling liver? Not me.

or this. Or the senior citizen who on this forum claimed to deflect a hurricane with magic. If an eyewitness says it happened then it happened. No argument there, i am totally convinced that it did happen for you good folk. Unfortuntely, it did not not happen in my reality which is my loss;)

 

Going back to the OP, what WLP and Brine purport to teach is immortality (neidan in western parlance) . Its a weird way to make a living but hey, not the weirdest one. Now when a teacher teaches immortality, is either he is  an immortal already - then he knows what he teaches. Or he is not immortal yet - then he is  a fraud. And being immortal or not starts from having a little thing called neidan, or the elixir. So per the OP whoever is interested in Brine  just gotta ask him: "Sifu with all due respect, you teach neidan, so....do you have the neidan? " Then watch the shuffle dance begin.

 

It is not about physical immortality but about spiritual immortality and physical health and longevity.

Unless you are someone like Jesus Christ or other Avatars that incarnate in this world, who can literally materialize their thoughts instantly, and who can be true or purely fantastical... 

 

The only way to verify anything is to test it yourself.

 

Qi is real.

Manipulating Qi through Yi Gong is real.

The real question is how much is possible, how much you can, or should, do with it... 

Ultimately this is ancient psychosomatics.

[silent thunder]